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On 01/04/2024 at 18:40, darren1810 said:
Agree bar Debs. Just don't rate him myself. Clumsy player.
So you expect Darren to get atleast 15 good players though the door? To expensive.
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Looking at the retained list definitely some good in there but also some bad. If we want to get out of league 2 we just need good players. We also need some good players on the bench. Gonna need a decent window. Not sure if Darren can do it on his own.
Some good talent. Chislet, garrity, all the youngsters, ojo if he feels like it
I think some of the players that were <ovf censored> in league 1 could perform in league 2.
we need wingers/wingbacks, 2 good strikers, a solid centre back to help smith at the back.
I think we have a good midfield
Garrity,Chislet, ojo, Sang and grant if you play them in position. Sang and grant would probably be your 70 min subs. Maybe 20 min if Sang comes on for ojo when he doesn't feel like it.
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Not that he will play in a vale shirt again but does Anyone remember Ryan burge?
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32 minutes ago, Guppys left peg said:
Amazing that Uche can keep his spot. Just shows how bad the recruitment has been if he can be viewed as the choice to start.
So who else you playing there? Not like our other options are mutch better
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16 minutes ago, valiant steve said:
Straight choice:
Option A: Put trust in DM to build a squad capable of top 7 in L2 or
Option B: Get rid of DM and put someone else in place to do the squad rebuild.
If it was my decision, I'd get rid of DM and put someone else in. My target would be Ainsworth. He must be missing football by now!
I'll renew our season tickets and back the team, whoever is in charge. I hope Carol starts listening to better advice than she has for the past few years.
UTV!
I don't know why we won't give the man a chance. I say give him a transfer window and first half of season and if we do well enough we should keep him. If we do absolutely shocking bring ainsworth in.
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1 hour ago, valeparklife said:
What sort of fees though? Both under contract.
£200,000-£300,000 each?
That would be more than enough for a competent recruitment team to build a playoff squad.
I hope so
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4 minutes ago, philpvfc said:
He’s also played at right back, doesn’t mean he’s good in that position.
Yes it probably does. He's only played wing back with us. Midfield everywhere else. Odd time when players have been injured and he's played out of position.
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14 minutes ago, valefan16 said:
Not so sure we would lose Garrity, he would command a fee at this stage and likely would be courted by a lower half L1 club so may as well see out the year with us and see if he can get us back up.
Let's hope for the best
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20 hours ago, valeparklife said:
Release: Wilson, Wynne, Massey
Keep for 1st team: Chis, Garrity, Ripley,
Keep for backup: Uche, Smith, Yak, Clarke, Sang (as a CM),
Try and get rid of: Loft, Jones, Lowe, Debrah, Grant
Play 4-3-3 and utilise wingers.
Ripley
New RB - New CB - New CB - New LB
Garrity - Ojo - Chislett
New Winger - New Striker - New winger
7 new signings. All first teamers.
That should be enough to stay up if we recruit properly, even if we can't move any on.
I agree with most of that but I can't see us keeping chis and garrity. So Darren or whoever is incharge of recruitment is gonna have a very busy window.
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9 minutes ago, rsb said:
thanks for the swear word
Excuse me
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21 hours ago, Diego Maradona said:
Midfield players IMO don't look too bad as long as we play them in midfield:
Chis
Garrity
Ojo
Grant
Sang
Walters
Although, appreciate some could go BUT depth doesn't look bad.
Thoughts????
Chis and garrity I don't think will stay. Another club will probably come in for them. Ojo I think needs to go. That puts the midfield down to Walters, Sang and grant. Who I think are good enough for league 2 but I'm not sure if they are good enough to get us out.
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1 minute ago, rsb said:
so you know as much as me and I no nothing whats going on at the club i'm just a very old fan but then you called me mad.
I probably did but I can't remember I say so much <ovf censored>
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2 hours ago, Vtid said:
Ripley, Clark ( if he can stay fit ), Cass, Smith, Yak, Sang, Plant, Shorrock, Lomax, Brazier, Walters, Dipepa, Garrity & Chislet would be my retained list. The rest can go for me, meaning we would need at least 10 bodies through the door which I can’t see happening.
I can't see garrity and chislet staying. Good players in a bad team. Imagine them in a good team. Maybe even dipepa will go. Everyone else on your list I can see staying.
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Just now, rsb said:
still not answered my question are you running the club or are you ceo matt hancock yes or no
No. Why would I be? I just say what I see, think and know.
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1 minute ago, rsb said:
But not fore any of the managers at vale this season
Well considering we have depth of good midfielders and basically no wingbacks. I'm guessing Sang is the only good option. Would have thought Jack shorrock or lomax could play wingbacks but I'm guessing because of there age and physical ability Sang is thought to be best there.
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On 16/04/2024 at 11:43, rsb said:
Again I ask are you running the club i.e Carols Son or are you the C E O Matt Hancock as you seem to know so much about how the club works . P S I am not Mad just a vale fan of 60+ years.
Someone said they wanted ojo at the back. So I asked who they would play in the midfield. I though Sang considering he has played there most his career. We played him there at the start of the season and he played well.
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On 16/04/2024 at 08:53, philpvfc said:
Not sure why some want Sang in the middle? He ain’t very good on the wing but his strongest point is crossing. I can’t see Sang being any better in the middle and I wouldn’t have him above Garrity, Ojo, Chislett, Walters or even Plant.
Well he is a midfielder and has played there most his career
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5 minutes ago, fuzzyvalefan said:
Worked really well in the last 18 months.
Bad dof exist. Good dof exist.
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48 minutes ago, Spunk Trumpet said:
Does that make it right? Why follow the trend? Why waste a wage?
Do yourself a favour, if you’re employed by OUR football club, and listen to Tony Pulis on Undr The Cosh.
He touches on how the manager should be buying the players and it doesn’t work when someone else buys the players.It’s absolutely scandalous that this was allowed to happen here at Vale. Where a DOF bought the players. A DOF told the manager how to play. A DOF told the manager what formation we will use. A DOF told the manager we are playing our own kids to make money and taking on other teams kids on loan to build relationships. Flitcroft may as well just sat in the dugout every Saturday with the influence and input he was having!
And people say “even Forest Green have one”.
Yeah.
Look where they are.
If it’s Moore or whoever. Let that man identify the targets HE wants and nobody else. Let him have the say in contract length.
It worked for over 100 years.
We are about to go into the 4th division.
We’ve already got a ridiculous amount of staff employed at this club.
I’ve always said in the lower leagues managers can complicate football with their modern day coaching ideas.
I will also say that owners can also complicate football with a DOF, multiple football scientists, other staff who we really don’t need.
Just keep it simple.
In the last two decades we’ve had Micky Adams and Darrell Clarke who have achieved real success.
Clarke probably won’t give us time of day anymore but somebody at the club should be going cap in hand to Micky Adams. Asking for his advice.
Even swallow the (what seems to be from the outside) the pompous attitude and go to Popey, Yatesy, Duffy, Hughesy, Birchall, Griff, Dicko, and others and get their advice.What would be an absolute catastrophe is signing “nice lads”, putting little videos out of them basically being told what to say when they sign, hiring a DOF who says I’m signing the players, we will play tippy tappy crap, not put in a tackle, and our formation will be 3-5-2 every week.
Been there. Done that. It’s been more of an on field circus this year than under Smurthwaite and I never ever thought I’d say that.
Keep it simple. Manager. His targets. His players. Leave him to manage. Stay away from a DOF. Surround ourselves with good old ex pros who love the club who can offer a touch of advice here and there as we go and let’s get back to being Port Vale Football Club again instead of Port Vale Corporate business.
All the fans care about is the football.
That’s the biggest learning curve that’s needed.I've looked and it's a load of waffle. Look at forest green at the bottom with a director of football. Look at the teams down there with them with no director of football.
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28 minutes ago, Dipepa delight said:
Yes if he can do the job at least we should move from back to front quicker .
His Lopaco injured how do you know ?
It doesn't matter now it seems like a lot of support have accepted our fate so if going go down go down by scoring goals and experimenting .
I like ojo at the back more so than midfield has he can see the whole picture
I liked the lad who used spray the great balls went to Tranmere Walker was it .
It allows Plant to play his preferred position and gives Walters chance earn his stripes if he wants a deal he deserves .
Anyway it's gone Exeter beat us nothing changes that so all irrelevant anyway .
Who in midfield for ojo? Sang maybe
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14 minutes ago, Spunk Trumpet said:
Does that make it right? Why follow the trend? Why waste a wage?
Do yourself a favour, if you’re employed by OUR football club, and listen to Tony Pulis on Undr The Cosh.
He touches on how the manager should be buying the players and it doesn’t work when someone else buys the players.It’s absolutely scandalous that this was allowed to happen here at Vale. Where a DOF bought the players. A DOF told the manager how to play. A DOF told the manager what formation we will use. A DOF told the manager we are playing our own kids to make money and taking on other teams kids on loan to build relationships. Flitcroft may as well just sat in the dugout every Saturday with the influence and input he was having!
And people say “even Forest Green have one”.
Yeah.
Look where they are.
If it’s Moore or whoever. Let that man identify the targets HE wants and nobody else. Let him have the say in contract length.
It worked for over 100 years.
We are about to go into the 4th division.
We’ve already got a ridiculous amount of staff employed at this club.
I’ve always said in the lower leagues managers can complicate football with their modern day coaching ideas.
I will also say that owners can also complicate football with a DOF, multiple football scientists, other staff who we really don’t need.
Just keep it simple.
In the last two decades we’ve had Micky Adams and Darrell Clarke who have achieved real success.
Clarke probably won’t give us time of day anymore but somebody at the club should be going cap in hand to Micky Adams. Asking for his advice.
Even swallow the (what seems to be from the outside) the pompous attitude and go to Popey, Yatesy, Duffy, Hughesy, Birchall, Griff, Dicko, and others and get their advice.What would be an absolute catastrophe is signing “nice lads”, putting little videos out of them basically being told what to say when they sign, hiring a DOF who says I’m signing the players, we will play tippy tappy crap, not put in a tackle, and our formation will be 3-5-2 every week.
Been there. Done that. It’s been more of an on field circus this year than under Smurthwaite and I never ever thought I’d say that.
Keep it simple. Manager. His targets. His players. Leave him to manage. Stay away from a DOF. Surround ourselves with good old ex pros who love the club who can offer a touch of advice here and there as we go and let’s get back to being Port Vale Football Club again instead of Port Vale Corporate business.
All the fans care about is the football.
That’s the biggest learning curve that’s needed.Can't be arsed reading that. Why follow the trend? Because it works that's why. Why play with a striker? Because it works. <ovf censored> striker = no goals. Good striker= goals. Works same with a dof but the club is run better or worse.
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7 minutes ago, Dipepa delight said:
Lopaco ojo lomax Shorrock obviously not in that order but at least you have pace then .
There's 4 .
It's same old there's no real process of changing anything ,the amount of goals conceded where player gets in crosses and the opposition tap in is unbelievable good players read the game if that was massey getting in and crossing the opposition snuff it out ,but how many times say when right sided wing backs being caught out of position have you seen the likes of Smith get it away very rare I tell thee .
There's no great desire to keep the ball out of our net .
People are so blinded by players ,I'm not I see that there's no great commitment about them how often have I come out of Vale home game last say 5 or 6 years and gone wow did you say that defending to keep the ball out of Vale net the 3 in a row last ditch get the ball away from our goal do or die challenges to make sure Vale win .
No you cannot kid me it's a rarity .
Surely you try different personnel till you find the right mixture of pace ,die for the cause in terms of blocking shots defenders .
Lopaco injure. You want ojo of all people to play out of position in defence?
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4 minutes ago, darren1810 said:
A luxury a money seeping League 2 club can't afford.
They aren't on 700 quid a week.
Every team in top 10 od league 2 has a dof. We need a dof. We have the money.
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8 minutes ago, Nippy Naylor said:
We Don't need. DOF , 🙄
What's so bad about a dof?
Summer transfer rumours and speculation
in Port Vale present
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I think he will do ok in league 2. He jumped from the national league to league 1. League 2 he should do alright.