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4 minutes ago, valefan79 said:
Not for me one minute saying we should be going in for him, for me too much baggage but saying he was one in 6 for us is not really true, lot of that time was playing 10 to 15 mins as a sub. He scored a goal every 161 minutes during his time with us, a very decent return for someone who was 19 when he was with us.
Fair point. Still don't think he really pulled up any trees though despite his Wembley goal, and he's done nothing since. He would be fine as one of four strikers at the club, but think "superb" is way over the top.
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2 hours ago, Osh said:
I'm interested to hear what is said at the forum tonight.
I don't think Gibbo is the answer, as much as I love the bones of the guy - we've had enough injury problems this last year. We need fit athletes who can last a whole season; I also agree with the feelings about Uche that the man cannot last 90 mins - should be an immediate no-no.
The only former player i'd want back here is Harrat I think he's superb and gagging for success. But I know he's been injured, too, so maybe a straight no.
Cant get up to the Mother Town this evening so if someone can summarise the forum tonight that would be great.
UTV!
Where does this notion that Harratt is superb come from for some people? He works hard, sure, but he averaged a goal every 6 games in League Two for us and has scored 1 goal for Huddersfield since in the league. "Gagging for success" is complete hyperbole. That's not even mentioning he clearly has bad habits off the pitch.
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10 hours ago, MBE said:
Mansfield were outplayed because we controlled the midfield with Ollie and Alfie.
I think you're over rating all the players mentioned.
I'm not over-rating anyone. But I know that most the sides in League Two won't be anywhere near the same quality as League One.
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3 hours ago, cast said:
I’d say that’s a relegation chasing side
Nonsense. Chislett, Garrity and Ojo are League One quality. Clark is a good League Two player when fit. Same with Smith. Dipepa will be much better from having experienced some football this season. Ripley would be one of the best goalies in League Two...
I think some people are forgetting just how poor many League Two sides are. We won't be facing anything like the same quality as the top half of League One. Look how poor we made Mansfield look in the Cup last season and the only real difference in that side were the two loanees.
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1 hour ago, valerule4ever said:
That side wouldn’t get close to top 7 for me, there is no pace or width in midfield, no proven goal scorer, no tacking ball winning midfielder, no height in defence and not enough proven leaders/winners.
And do you think League Two sides will have all bases covered?
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As of right now, without again coming or goings, this would surely be at least a play-off chasing side in League Two.
Ripley
Clark
Debrah
Smith
Iacovitti
Wynne
Ojo
Garrity
Chislett
Ikpeazu
Dipepa
It's a big if, but if we can keep Chislett, Garrity and Ojo I don't think there would be many better players in League Two. Add a goal-scorer to that side and a decent centre-back and you're laughing.
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2 hours ago, valiant_593 said:
Not on the back of seeing him last season they wouldn’t. I was happy when he signed, but some of the misses were beyond bad. We shouldn’t be signing a striker up with 1 assist and 1 goal. He will be on very decent money as well. Get rid whilst we can and start a fresh.
If he doesn't have much interest I'm sure he would agree to a lesser wage, if not given much of a choice. I believe with better service both him and Loft would be able to score some goals in League Two. The difference in quality between the two leagues, other than a handful of poor teams in League One, is massive. Again, I'm not saying I personally want to keep either in an ideal world. But Ikpeazu is a target man and there were times last season when others around him were better because of his presence. Surely with a decent pre-season behind him and in hopefully a more creative side he would be capable of being a 10 goal a season target man.
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1 hour ago, Brian Johnson said:
Yes, you are not wrong, there are far better strikers up and down the country than Ikpeazu
And the vast majority of them will be out of our reach for numerous reasons. I'm no fan of Uche. I wouldn't care less if both him and Loft were on the move as long as they are replaced. But out of the two, I think he has a bit more of the nuisance factor than Loft. If we were a League Two club and we signed Ikpeazu I think most would be saying what a great signing it is.
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1 hour ago, Brian Johnson said:
So, if last Saturday's game v Cambridge was actually a League 2 game and not a League 1 game, he would have scored with that header?
Far better strikers than Ikpeazu miss chances up and down the land every week.
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1 hour ago, werstayinup said:
I cant believe some really do think that those still here at the moment are the ones we start with in August,i will state now that a fair few will be leaving.
As someone else said if Uche has an option of another year(thanks to DF) then we have to go the right way about it. I am hoping some of these talks include with Garrity to extend his contract by another 2yrs
Ikpeazu will be fine in League Two if we can get someone with pace to play alongside him that's a more natural finisher. He's toothless but he's also a handful.
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Wilson should never have been re-signed in the first place. It was pure desperation stuff.
Also glad to see the back of Massey. He offers next to nothing and was a massive dissapointment.
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13 hours ago, soothsayer said:
Personally I think we need a complete overhaul. Debrah and Yak don’t look good enough to me to attain a top half L2 finish. As for Uche and Loft they wouldn’t be out of place in the National League. Carol really needs to invest in the Summer to turn this oil tanker round as there are lots of examples of clubs going straight through L2.
It's not going to happen though. It's unrealistic to think we're going to get rid of almost all of the squad even if we would like to. There's a considerable gap in quality between the two leagues. I think Iacovitti and Debrah, who is still improving, will hold their own in League Two. Not saying either would be world beaters in that league but almost every L2 team will have a lump like Iacovitti at the back.
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If we have a decent summer and show a bit of ambition I don't think next season has to be such a grind. Smith, Iacovitti and Debrah will be fine in the league below. If we can keep Ripley then that's a good, solid back five for a League Two side. Mitch Clark, if he can actually stay fit, is a good full-back at that level. And dare I say it, if we keep one of Loft or Ikpeazu then surely they can have a bit more success playing against lesser players every week. If we somehow manage to keep hold of Garrity and Ojo then we should have a decent League Two side with some clever additions.
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There's a big difference in quality between League One and League Two. A lot of our players who we almost despise for not being good enough should at least be able to hold their own in the league below. Though I still hope most of them get released or given away.
There's no chance we will hold on to either Chislett or Garrity. Forget about it.
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2 minutes ago, Alan Vit said:
DazFred,
We can begin to judge sensibly next season, when Darren and his staff have had the chance to bring in and work with their own choice of players.Good managers make average players better. We had some very winnable games at home and pathetically lost them under Moore. He gets next season but nobody should be saying he's been anything but dreadful so far.
With love,
Stokiie
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Two genuinely appalling teams.
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He's been rubbish so far, with a rubbish, rubbish squad of players. Of course he deserves a window or two of his own and next season to convince everyone he's the right man for the job. He should start with a clean slate once tomorrow is out of the way, but the jury is very much out.
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On 26/04/2024 at 21:11, Jacko51 said:
And this week’s prize for being top miserable tosser goes to …….
Still a couple of days left yet and I haven't been here this week.
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1 hour ago, grand prix pants said:
🤣I mean, fair play to you, but this is the most dramatic change of opinion I’ve ever seen on here! Easily pleased by a pretty bland statement, or what?!
Pleased? No. But at the end of the day, I'm quite sure she wants to make amends for a number of reasons. Any Vale fan will only be hoping she does exactly that, and so she needs to be given the chance at least. Me hoping she starts to get things right and giving her a chance to do so next season can be separated from the part she has played in this clusterfuck of a season.
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Actions speak much louder than words but people really do need to give her a fair chance to put things right before writing everyone and everything off.
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Only one I genuinely have any sort of affection for is Ben Garrity. But we should also look to keep hold of Ripley, Smith, Ojo and Chislett. Perhaps Clark if he can get himself fit as he should be a good player for League Two. Then the kids. The rest I couldn't care less about.
But for the love of God, can we please stop playing midfielders as wing-backs. Grant and Sang should never be considered for that position never mind play there most weeks.
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That's fair enough. Life is all about how you bounce back from adversity. She can and will, and therefore so will the club.
Let's go!
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1 hour ago, WV said:
I think Crosby would have kept us up. That’s how bad Moore has been.
I actually miss him a bit and I was one of his biggest critics at the back end of his tenure. Not because he was particularly good, obviously. But he just comes across so much better than Moore.
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1 hour ago, cast said:
Just listened to his post match interview. It’s like listening to a ChatGPT AI bot. Dreadful
The guy can barely put a decent sentence together. God knows what he's like in the dressing room, but it can't be good.
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Summer transfer rumours and speculation
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Exactly. He was a trier and he scored an important goal. Outside of those things he was pretty run of the mill.