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    Ale and the Vale Podcast

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    Oldham (A) Preview

    We're joined by friend of the show Nath to discuss the weeks news, including James Wilson's injury, Dennis Politic and the situation at Bolton and also ticket sales for upcoming games. Then into the Oldham preview. With a big following due for Vale and protests for the home team, can Vale take advantage? And what formation and lineup would we play?

    Available on Apple, Google and Spotify podcasts. And here! https://aleandthevale.podbean.com

    Ale and the Vale Podcast

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    I think we've discussed before with Gibbo. There has been times when a mislaid pass has led to either a serious chance being given away or he's had to work back heavily to stop it. I certainly think he's improved on that in the last 12 months, I'd argue he's probably been one or if not our best player to date this season. I think playing on the left where it's less natural for him has made him a better player which is really saying something. I know Vale will be trying to get a new contract done, I just hope it's soon!

    I agree with you about trying to get in behind them. That's what Bradford did to us 1st half on Saturday with Vernam. I didn't see as much as that with Amoo although he did it with the goal. Maybe that's a tactical decision from Clarke and he doesn't want to play like that? Up front will be a serious talking point this week. I really hope Wilson isn't too badly injured. If nothing else, he's got some momentum now and we look a lesser side when he's not on the pitch.

    Ale and the Vale Podcast

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    1 hour ago, The_godfather said:

    Some (slightly edited an hour later )thoughts for you on the game fellas.

    You would have to consider it 2 points dropped, after being a goal up. Until Angol came on, Bradford were pretty dreadful going forward, Vernam apart. Their midfield was non-existent although they were effective in stopping us playing. We used the ball poorly, particularly in forward areas out wide, and especially on over/underlapping runs where opportunities were ignored. We had a couple of decent long range efforts, but not much in terms of clear cut chances. Robinson probably had his best game for Vale.

    For us, Gibbons looked one of our liveliest players, looking to drive forward at every opportunity, but wasn't involved much in the 2nd half until late on. Worrall was very quiet but grew in influence as the game wore on and helped. The midfield didn't seem balanced to me today - Conlon clearly had the class, but didn't get it enough in the right areas to consistently hurt Bradford; when he did, he made things happen. Pett was tidy, but that's all you could say, and Garrity had one of those days where his energy was evident but didn't bring any returns. 

    For them, Threlkeld should have gone for those 2 fouls, in the first half, and then really, the whole game changed once Angol came on. The first thing he did was be aggressive in a challenge with Jones, and that set the tone - Bradford suddenly had a focal point to play off and they made the most of it. Good header for the goal, Covolan could never have saved it. Smith's mistake really - not only did he give it away with some strange outside of the boot punt, he then chased out to try and close down, was still nowhere near, and wasn't in the middle to deal with the incoming cross (which was decent).

    Wilson's goal was fantastic - great turn and pass from him out wide, then sprinted 60 yards to get on the end of some comical defending.

    The subs clearly struggled, but I didn't really blame them to be honest. Taylor was energetic and trying to get involved in the game, but once Wilson went off, we seemed to sit deeper, and just launch it forwards at Lloyd and Rodney. Neither did much, but they weren't exactly offered great service, one excellent Worrall cross fizzed across the 6 yard box aside. At first glance, I thought Conlon's through ball to Lloyd for his great chance was slightly behind him to be honest, and his first touch took him back in to the defence. At least with the competition, Politic will be straining at the leash next week.

    Regarding the ref, when the crowd got on his back late on - the keeper's challenge on Rodney was clumsy rather than malicious. He knew he would probably get Rodney on the follow through, but Rodney slightly slipped into it, and it probably made it look worse than it was. The Canavan elbow on Lloyd after was worse - the kind of sly dig that is deliberate, and that you couldn't get away with in the Premier League with VAR, but you can a lot at this level. 

    If Bradford are in the playoffs come May, Adams deserves to be Manager of the Year.

    Arrgh! I didn't think anyone would respond so quickly after the final whistle. We've already recorded otherwise I would have included this in there!

     

     

    Ale and the Vale Podcast

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    Bradford Preview!

    Plenty of cup news to discuss, with the FA Cup, Youth Cup and (Unfortunately) the pizza trophy all ongoing! Also lots of good news out there for Vale this week with articles on the club and Darrell Clarke in the national press prior to the weekends televised game. A Bradford preview then, as we take on one of the pre-seasons promotion favourites. Vale in strong form, but Bradford have only 1 in 6 and have a big following heading to Vale Park. What a weekend to look forward to!

    Available on Apple, Google and Spotify podcasts. And here! https://aleandthevale.podbean.com

    Ale and the Vale Podcast

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    Accrington Preview!

    A quick catch up in the week. Bezza rejoins us as he's feeling better so thanks for all the good wishes that were sent! We discuss the club's youth victory and how the Elite Player Performance Plan is hampering us and other clubs from making true progress in youth development. A quick word on a Vale legend's new job and then in to the Accrington preview. Accy are 12th in League One, and will be very dangerous opposition. How will they approach it, and how will we? A great weekend ahead. Bezza finishes up by saying this Vale side would be doing ok in League One. What does everyone think? Let us know!

    Available on Apple, Google and Spotify podcasts. And here! https://aleandthevale.podbean.com

    Ale and the Vale Podcast

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    21 hours ago, toyahw said:

    No you are right, they were not crap. Colchester were crap. It's a close league. The only team we have played off the pitch is FGR.

    That's pretty fair, especially over 90 mins. Had some good halves(Barrow, Harrogate, Swindon) so far as well. Just goes to show that most of the time, when you get promoted you're battering teams week in week out, it's the small margins that get you through.

    I do however feel there's more to come from Vale. I'd say at some point, one of the strikers will hit a hot streak. I'm hoping for Wilson, as I bet the other two a pint he'd get 20 goals!

    Ale and the Vale Podcast

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    17 hours ago, LancyTony said:

    You may have done on here...but for many on OVF, it was a poor performance from us, rather than a good performance from Mansfield.

    I reckon it can be both. I think Mansfield surprised us a bit. With their poor form they were supposedly ripe for the picking. I didn’t think so. They have decent players across the pitch. It was an off night for Vale, but certainly some of that was down to how well they played. 

    Ale and the Vale Podcast

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    On 30/10/2021 at 03:06, Vale1995 said:

    Miles off it with tom conlon comment about his left foot. Id probably suggest that right footed players use there right foot to play the ball for 95% if not higher of there touches during the game however not noticed as most are right footed. As a defender you are always told to show the player on there weak side no matter what footed they are. Teams are set up to keep tom conlon quiet in games no matter what foot he is because he is a key player for us. This would be the case if he was right footed. Not sure what the aim is for trying to highlight negatives in one of our star players is in the view of your podcast. 

    also there are several world class players who are left footed and are known for being one footed players ie the greatest of all time messi, shaqiri, mahrez to name a few. So to suggest this would limit conlons progression in the football league again is a load of nonsense 

    Yep we take that on board. It was a discussion we wanted to have. It didn’t think it came off as a massive criticism (that wasn’t the intention, and we did say he’s got some left foot) but it was something Jonny noted and wanted to discuss. Great point about the fact there are plenty of world class left footers that can’t use their right. One that was pointed out to us was Rivaldo who was decent enough 😂

    Ale and the Vale Podcast

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    On 29/10/2021 at 19:31, LancyTony said:

    I don't read what's on here very often - fortunately! Some people are going to have to eat a lot of stupid words at the end of the season!

    I'm surprised that "...we've been found out a little bit..."? Not sure how, when most posters can't decide what formation we'll be playing even after the team is announced? Nor when we've scored 14 goals in 6 games, with 4 wins and a draw - I'm not seeing the "...being found out..." bit? Admittedly, Mansfield outplayed us but they're a decent team, with a good manager and in a false position - maybe they should have been given more credit for their performance? And, yes - we imploded against Sutton (the only loss in 6)...but we also suffered some appalling luck against a team that's pretty much matching us in terms of current form, and that away from home and a little more concentration / good luck would have seen at least a point?   

    I think it’s not necessarily our formations (although we have been steady with a 5-3-2 in the main from the start) but more about our style and how we build attacks. 
     

    I thought we did give Mansfield good credit for their performance. I said that it was the best performance of the season against us. 
     

     

    Ale and the Vale Podcast

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    3 hours ago, CambridgeDon said:

    Unfortunately I think the ref will have a pivotal impact on the game. If I were their manager I'd be telling them to go down at every opportunity, especially in the peno box, because he's bound to be giving them the benefit of the doubt (which is putting it mildly). On a normal day, I'd say we'd be odds on favourites but with Kettle in charge anything could happen. My guess is we're in for a difficult afternoon.

    Why on earth is this bloke still reffing?

    We’ve got no idea unfortunately. 500+ games in the Football League is astounding. He would make a mess of a kids 7-a-side game. 

    Ale and the Vale Podcast

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    Crawley Away!

    We look at a couple of things in more detail that we've discussed in recent weeks. Tom Conlon and switching from 3 to 4 at the back the main topics. We go through the Supporters Club meeting and then discuss the Crawley game. Plenty of discussion on the ref unfortunately. Crawley have only won 1 of their last 5, but had a rough run of games against decent teams. Can we add to their misery, and will Clarkey switch it up again? Let us know!

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    Ale and the Vale Podcast

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    On 24/10/2021 at 02:50, PV1973 said:

    Enjoyed the preview with @Santa it’s good to have a different viewpoint every so often. The discussion point of bringing Rodney in was right on the money too, I thought he had a good game. 

    Yep I thought he was great. Good to see so many things we discuss coming in to games!

    Ale and the Vale Podcast

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    Colchester Preview!

    We're joined by friend of the show Andy (aka Santa on OVF) to look back at the week just gone. We discuss if we've been found out a little bit and need to change things up and whether Rodney deserves to go straight back in with Proctor likely out for a while. We then look at the Colchester game. It looks like a great game to get back on track for Vale, with Colchester languishing in 19th position. What do you think?

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    Yep for me, it was Conlon who looks to get bottled up the most. Then to a lesser extent Worrall and Pett. I wouldn't include Garrity in that conversation. For me, you can get round the opposition zeroing in on specific players by the others stepping up and using the space they've been afforded. It's happened in some games, and then not in others. 

    You make a good point about the wingbacks. I've said before that if you don't get those two attacking early they easily get pushed back in to more of a full back role and we lose some attacking edge. It's incredibly important that the wingbacks set their stall out early in the games.

    Does anyone else have anything to add on the thought that teams are now more wise to how we want to play, and how they stop us from playing? I'll pick the best stuff up for tomorrow's pod.

     

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    Mansfield Review!

    A point gained on the road rather than 2 lost as a fantastic following at Field Mill see Vale have an off-form evening at Mansfield. We talk through the positives - Tom Pett, Covolan penalty save and a superb free-kick from Tom Conlon. And cover the not-so-goods as well. Apologies for the sound quality, normal service will resume on Friday!

    Available on Apple, Google and Spotify podcasts. And here! https://aleandthevale.podbean.com

    Ale and the Vale Podcast

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    Barrow Review!

    A come from behind victory at Vale Park. Plenty of character and strength shown, as well as tactical nous as we go in down at half time but score 3 in the second half to cap a fine victory. Plenty of debate about the performances involved. Followed up by a quick preview of the Mansfield game on Tuesday. They're on a terrible run of form, but beat us convincingly both times last year. Is this the moment to turn the screw on an already under the pressure team?

    Available on Apple, Google and Spotify podcasts. And here! https://aleandthevale.podbean.com

     

    Ale and the Vale Podcast

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    27 minutes ago, PVFC_4_EVA said:

    Only started listening to these over the last few weeks when all was well.
    I was concerned that this was going to be all doom and gloom and put me off.
    However I was pleasantly surprised with how sensible all your views were. Fingers crossed we go on another good run now.

    Keep up the good work lads.

    Thanks! Much appreciated!

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    On 09/10/2021 at 15:08, PV1973 said:

    Is it wrong to say I enjoy the pod more when we lose? Not sure I agree with knocking individual performances down because of the team performance though. 

    There were some good performances within the game I thought, and at times proctor, Pett and Gibbo were way ahead of everyone. 
     

    Pett had a decent game, but I thought it was him that was slow to close the thrower for the 3rd goal, a small lapse that ended up being costly. I agree that I don’t think there’s any blame that can be attached to Worrall for not winning the header, but when everyone is getting back into their shape it’s hard to suddenly be swapping around so that someone else marks worralls man when he’s coming in defend the back post. 
     

    One thing I noticed with Jones and gibbo was that they were mainly being targeted on that side with long diagonals on to Jones head. I think jones stood up to it well and in the main  I felt that they both linked together well to defend their back post / corner of the box from those long balls in. 
     

    It’s an interesting comment you make about that bit if play from Gibbo where he headed it past the full back and ran on it. You don’t often see play like that in our league, let alone from a full back. I think him and Conlon are currently the 2 main players for us that could be being scouted elsewhere. Conlon may not have been at his best, but you can still tell that’s most of our play goes through him. Take the second goal as an example, that must have been a training ground routine with Conlon being at the heart of it. 

    I think at the end of the day, individual performances were down as the team didn't quite get it right. I thought like you say, there were some decent performances in there but too many off days that was reflected in the scoreline. Not that I thought we played terribly, but we weren't the same side for some reason after we went 2 up. 

    I also had Rodney down as the other main name out the door if things went well. I hope he comes back strong from his recent absence. He really is a quality player that can destroy teams when he's on it.

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