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28 minutes ago, JoeB2 said:
If Stoke and Crewe are in League 1 next year, and we're in League 2, I'm going to find it extremely difficult.
Get ready JoeB2. Its going to happen
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21 minutes ago, eh up nah said:
Carol, I never, ever thought I'd find myself saying this but if you don't start to see David Flitcroft for what he is, Port Vale could well die on your watch.
That could end up being your legacy.
The team that got us up was a much better side than this.
We've played two seasons at league one level with a side much inferior to our league Two team.
Have we even taken it <ovf censored> seriously since we got promoted?
Ripley, Ojo, Devine and Arblaster are the only players we've signed that would've gotten a shirt in that squad since we came up.
And two of those only played 6 months, not being our players.
That is David Flitcrofts fault. He is the director of football. He puts the squad together.
I don't blame most of the players. It's ability and numbers (lack of both) that have us where we are now.
I cannot believe the optimism I had for the Vale when you took over. The joy brought by the promotion (the 4th in the 35 years I've been following the Vale.
The wave that created and have we ridden that wave? Have we capitalised one bit on that? Christ no!!!
Instead you've allowed that absolute pillock to turn us in to a soulless training ground for top tier loan signings.
Brilliant, thats Port Vale to you is it?
I honestly believe that you do not give one stuff about actual supporters. Your actions are saying just that in not just keeping faith with that utter madman, but actually lording him up to the supporters. Telling us off for daring to become disillusioned at his apparent long termism.
Long term? Jesus!!! We're back to whence we came next season. Its absolute failure and the most infuriating part is that it was so, so avoidable.
I feel absolutely pig sick.
Pig sick me too. Thanks Carol for agreeing with him and letting it roll on and on.
Just to remind you of Flitcroft and the recruitment team. This is what they have given us :
Loft, Sang, Uche, Grant, Lowe, Iacovitti, Debrah, Wilson
loans : Thomas, Gore, Williams, Weir, Mighten, Williams
young lads : McDermott, Shorrock, Walters, Dipepa, Lomax, even Plant. Sorry all too soon for the amount they have played this season. Filling the squad but not good enough yet. Hopefully they will be one day !!
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21 minutes ago, MBE said:
Generally we looked better with our formation tonight but offensively we look poor with very little quality when it matters but what really irks me is our defending as a team.
We concede yet again after winning 1st contact in the box. To be fair Wing is a fantastic 1 in 50 strike and you could argue Massey could have thrown himself at it but the 2nd one has summed us up.
Under a bit of pressure and we fold like a deck of cards. Block the bit then every <ovf censored> player in our box stands and watches. It’s the same every single game we have played.
Weak minded players, majority aren’t good enough for L2 and don’t even get me started on Grant.
Spot on
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Flitcroft OUT
Recruitment for the last TWO years :
Absolutely shocking. Flitcroft has to be sacked for this alone. Recruitment team !! Disgraceful. Then we insist on the same formation that has not worked. Yes it was good when Arblaster and Devine and Garrity were on song and thats it. [ We were promoted purely on a six month purple spell from Garrity and his goals helped us massively first half of promotion season ]
Never seen such an unbalanced squad of players at Port Vale
Jones, two year contract. Wilson, not required and then signed in desperation when we could not get anyone. [ we then learn we were chasing Loft all along ]
What has our recruitment team given us.
Signings :
Ripley , Chislett , Leutwiler - Positives
Clark - hopefully but jury still out
Sang , Grant , Lowe , Iacovitti , Debrah , Uche , Loft , Wilson - Poor. Not strengthened us.
Loans :
Arblaster , Devine - excellent
Thomas , Weir , Lopata , Mighten , Gore , Williams - Poor. Not strengthened us.
Youngsters, our own :
Plant , Mc'Dermott , Shorrock , Walters , Diepepa , Brazier , Lomax , Good to say that we are bringing players through but are they ready ? Should they be playing now ? NO
Only time will tell if they will be successful for us and that is another two years minimum. Not strengthened us.
A complete farce and Flitcroft is responsible for everything football related.
Carol GET FLITCROFT OUT OF OUR CLUB NOW
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5 minutes ago, Powerline said:
I don’t know why people are expecting him to be some sort of saviour. He has no goals or assists. He was also playing as wing back, where he can’t defend (not his fault as he’s not a wing back).
Worse than Grant ?
At least Plant puts effort in to defend
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1 minute ago, Killersrevenge44 said:
Loft hattrick tonight...watch this space. Debrah on Grant off. Should have done that last game
Plant should be on bench instead of Grant too
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6 minutes ago, kevin_struggles said:
4-2-3-1 Happy with that nice to see Garrity back on the bench, did I dream it or did AC say that Plant was back training on the grass in one of his last interviews? If so he should be close. I don't know how well they will take to it with not having long to implement a formation change but I hope he persists with it because going forwards I think it will get us more points than sticking with a wing back system that hasn't worked all season.
Plant ready and fully fit for Cheltenham.
Not picked, not even for the bench
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14 minutes ago, mbycars said:
Flitcroft has assembled this group of players.
Flitcroft has assembled a completely unbalanced squad that offers no threat to the opposition.
Flitcroft has set up one way of playing which doesn't work with the players we have.
Flitcroft has in 4 transfer windows failed to bring in any strikers capable of scoring the goals required for the club to progress.
Flitcroft cannot be trusted to deliver the process.
Flitcoft MUST GO NOW.
100% FLITCROFT MUST GO NOW
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Just now, Guitar Ray said:
I’m still asking myself how the hell have we ended up with effectively no strikers. I can’t get my head around it. It’s worse than gross negligence. Flitcroft has to go.
FLITCROFT HAS TO GO
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1 minute ago, LancyTony said:
hahaha! Muppet!
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31 minutes ago, valefan79 said:
How is it post of the day , just because you agree with it. I am getting tired of the injury situation and that being our excuse for being rubbish since September and outside the drop zone because of Reading's point deduction. We like many other teams in our league and throughout football are dealing with injuries because football is different than years ago, more games, less recovery time, players not playing through the pain barrier, scientists telling managers when and when they can't play and many more issues. This is why it was criminal to go into a season with one recognised LWB in grant who missed virtually the whole of last season. After the window shut, we had a forward line of Wilson who we know from the past has never been able to stay fit regular, 5th choice striker from Bristol Rovers and Thomas who had never kicked a ball in the football league, we then a month later sign a player who has not played for 6 months who took 3 months to get anywhere near fit. We choose to give Jones a 2 year deal who we know has spent more time injured than fit.
I keep hearing all these injuries but the nucleus of that team Ripley, Smith, Ojo, Arblaster, Devine Ojo, Garrity, Chislett were all fit for that awful run from September to December, they may have missed the odd game but other than Clarke I fail to see who we have missed as Wilson despite being quality, we should have been expecting him to miss and plans should have been in place for this.
I just fail to see how without 2 forwards one of which needs to know where the back of the net is how we are going to go on a run that will see us comfortable in mid-table, the defence is leaking goals and can't keep clean sheets and we need 2 or 3 goals to get a result.
THIS IS POST OF THE DAY
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5 hours ago, JoeB2 said:
It won't be a lot of money for Uche. If we were demanding silly money, Charlton could just wait 6 months and get him for nothing in July.
Getting him off the wage bill after 2-3 good games (with no long-term value) and 10 average-poor ones, and replacing him with a player with as much upside as Young on a 2.5 year deal is fundamentally sensible business, especially as we're not going to be challenging at either end of the table in the next 6 months.
As with any lower league signing, you can't guarantee its success, but Young can clearly produce in the right system and won't be fully developed as a striker yet. For his Barrow loan, he never played a full 90 and only started 5 games - mostly on the left wing. Swindon have showed what a consistent run up front can do.
Sensible post.
Some say upto £250k.. Dream on
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1 hour ago, News Feed said:
Interview | Ollie Arblaster
Great interview.
Thanks to Ollie Arblaster.
What a great footballer.
More important. What a great lad.
All the best.
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4 minutes ago, Osh said:
Rumour I heard today is Conlon is going to 'Nam and Cass is off to Harrogate
Conlon and Cass not in squad for last few weeks
Smith and Uche not in first 11 recently
Wouldnt be surprised if any / all the above are not with us by end Jan
?? What about Crosby ?
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47 minutes ago, Rodge said:
Probably because you know that this squad is capable of so much more but for whatever reason are not performing consistently to the standard they are capable of.Sorry Rodge. Have to question that this squad is capable of so much more. Todays team :
Ripley - Good but please learn to concentrate more. Should he be beaten like the third goal today ?
Back three - Poor. Debra ok. Lowe too slow and not strong enough. Iacovitti So poor as a defender. Needs to be told its panto season " Hes behind you " To be fair he left the ball because his man was never going to get it. Grant left his man alone and never chased back. Second goal also poor marking from Iacovitti Very poor
Midfield four - Massey and Grant poor. Stand out wide and offer no movement when ball behind and needs to be played forward. No goals whatsoever in them. Walters poor. Didnt know he was on today. What has happened to his early season performances, he at least showed effort and fight. He is slow and not the most skillful to me. Certainly not a ' real gem ' of a prospect. Does he want to go elsewhere ? Leaves just Garrity. Terrific performances this season. Play anywhere and gives his all. Unfortunately playing in this position, leaves this whole midfield four offering almost no goals.
Two attacking midfield - Devine, certainly his class shows. Passing very good, pace, looks to score goals. Chislett, now playing with more effort and fight in midfield and still offers goals from his forward runs.
Striker - Cannot call Loft a striker. Very poor, offers nothing.
Todays team is our squad and it was so weak looking even before kick off.
Smith to compete in the back three and should improve us but he doesnt seem to want it himself. Played out of position too much and may be sulking i dont know but he needs to show he wants a shirt. Even with Smith its not the best back three.
Massively miss Ojo and Arblaster in the center. Sang and Clarke would strengthen us out wide. Still not sure how good that makes us.
Devine Chislett then add Garrity and we look lots better.
Loft Uche Thomas. No thanks to any of them. Oh for Wilson being fit for three months. How we need this.
Desperate to strengthen this squad. Back to money !!
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9 hours ago, JRC said:
If you could guarantee 30 games a season he's worth keeping. History says he managed that twice in his career. I'd probably gamble until the end of the season but at some point we have to move on. I think we'll offer him something, maybe get 10 more games out of him and then let him go in the summer.
At this point in this season, i would keep Wilson and hope and pray we get 8 games out of him.
Those 8 games will get us more points than the 16 games with Loft, Uche or anyone else currently at the club as striker
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5 hours ago, Brian Johnson said:
And then you look in the opposite dug out who is an experienced manager and knows what he's doing with game management to get a result.
All 3 x Stevenage goals were scored by their subs
Now thats some game management.
To be fair, Stevenage have a decent squad, possible pay decent money and yes have a decent experienced manager.
Dont think we had a player anywhere near their wide left wing back for the last 25 mins
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7 hours ago, Alfie1962 said:
Changing the back three murdered us. The goals came from Lackevetti's inept performance. Blame the manager for the changes, but you always point the finger at the same player.
Waiting to see the highlights but if you are correct about Iacovetti then i am not surprised. As a defender he is poor and has cost us a few goals this season at the far post. Have to admit during the game i was only saying that Debra and Lowe deserve a place and it is Smith or Iacovetti for the left side. Iacovetti is a much better footballer and is more mobile than Smith. He would give us better options to get forward but then what about his defending. Will wait for the highlights !!
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14 hours ago, jeffers said:
It’s not so much taking Ollie and Alfie off, it’s what he did to replace them. The back three were comfortable with Lowe in full control, he hardly touched the ball in midfield. Why did we need to bring the Yak on, surely we could have brought Loft or Uche on and dropped Ben into midfield alongside Rhys.
In hindsight, he had no midfield cover on the bench, even knowing that Ollie and Alfie were not likely to last 90 minutes. Unless he was injured, why was Conlon not on the bench to give that experienced option.
He is a coach, game management is beyond him.
Jeffers
Best post on the topic.
The two subs should not have come off after 60 mins. D C would have told sports science what to do. 10 more mins even may have been enough but why bring both off together.
What was the plan to replace them. Who was on the bench to cover their roles.
Lowe had the best game a center back has played all season. Him and Smith are chalk and cheese. He may not be the biggest center back but last night it worked well for us. His football brain at the back was brilliant to watch. So we go and move him. Looked a poor player from then on
Ojo was playing very well too so why move him. He sat back and protected the defence andlet Ollie and Alfie do the running. So we then move him further upfield. Looked a poor player from then on.
Worse still later in the game we do as you said, bring Loft on up front and drop Garrity back in midfield, which we have done before. Despite the comments Loft doesnt do the work we need up front, Uche does and would have fought better for us in last 15 mins. Garrity was excellent up front and showed far more than the pair of them.
One further point. The many people saying its no worry if Ollie goes back in Jan, we have a ready replacement. Think again. Sorry but Walters is no where near a player yet who we could play regularly in midfield.
Yes Crosby's management skills and game management are poor, very poor. We DO need a new manager. It cost us dearly, possibly £200k plus
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6 minutes ago, andy jones said:
Is it reserved or unreserved seating tomorrow?
We can have a row each
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3 hours ago, smithie said:
It would be really interesting to see how many of the tickets that were cut to £7.50 we've sold. This was the thing that would hold back sales we were told.
Biggest game in our history ?
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week before christmas
christmas do's already booked
tuesday night not ideal for kids / old uns
travel too and from non existant on evening games
cost, it is christmas
shocking form
its only Middlesboro, any top premier and its a sell out despite all above.
Put in any order we want but all have an effect on this game.
despite what we all want to think, we are not a huge club 10 k max for very top games
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4 minutes ago, WV said:
If we were to get rid of DF and AC in one fell swoop are we then hoping Carol can run it until someone else comes in? As in she will interview and select the next manager ?
Understand that. I know it will not happen. Also understand that if we get rid of A C i believe it will be difficult to bring in an experienced manager to work alongside D F.
My big hope from Carol is more finance can be found
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8 minutes ago, MBE said:
I agree. Cracking prospect but thats all he is.
Our selling point is we can offer a genuine crack at 1st team football now. If he went to Champ team he will just sit in the age group teams. Remember Joe Davis?
Looked a good prospect who looked like he could have a very decent good but left to take more money to sit in Leicester Under 23's team.
Cracking prospect yes but £££ will be top of 99% of young players and 100% of agents thoughts.
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Agree with most of this topic. What i see as three big failings by Carol.
Carol openly admitted that she knew nothing about the football side of running a football club, Unfortunately by then she had already interviewed D F for the managers job and he did a very good job of selling himself but for the role as D of F. Carol saw the need for this role but never thought to see if there were other contenders for this role and so D F got his foot in the door.
Secondly Carol said that a must for a new manager was ' experience ' and we paid for D C. Great move, so why when we move him on [ third big mistake ] do we settle for someone with no experience as a manager and we are also a league higher.
For me both D F and A C need to move on. If Carol still needs the D of F role then look again. but we need to replace the two of them
Goalscorers / striker. Yes we have no one and we need one. D F is kidding himself or trying to kid us when talking of ' who we were after ' sounds rubbish to me but one point to make.
The bottom nine teams in div one are all struggling to score goals and do not average one goal @ game [ one exception ] and goals conceded are no worse than the Vale. So strikers are a struggle for all teams to find.
My view is we struggle to score goals from the six wide / midfield players we have within the club. Only Garrity has managed to give us any where near a good return. Our wide men are non existant when it comes to scoring goals. Useless in fact. Forward midfield players are failing and the two defensive players we play again will not give us the goals we need. [ why do we need two for this role ? Maybe a poor back three and we need to strengthen at the back ]
We need new players in January. The biggest stumbling block to that is cash. Carol cannot supply enough to give us a balanced team to remain safely in Div 1. Yes money supplied for goalkeeper but what about the remaining core of a team. Center back, Center mid, Striker. Two of those three positions we are no where near strong enough for Div 1.
If only Carol could secure more finance, get a new D of F and a new manager in the next two weeks. That would be a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
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Reading (A) match thread - 20th Feb
in Port Vale present
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Pull ya socks up you silly man