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    Wigan Athletic (H) match thread - 16th Dec

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    On 13/12/2023 at 13:59, robf said:

    According to Wikipedia we are one off equalling the record:

    6 losses, 1 January 1992 to 14 March 1992 & 26 December 2018 to 19 February 2019

    At our present rate, that's a record we stand a good chance of beating. Usually it's good to set a new record but this one we could give a miss. That would certainly improve the Christmas break.

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    Stevenage (H) FAC2R Match thread 12th Dec

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    33 minutes ago, bomber said:

    Tommy Witherington seems to be doing very well at Aldershot.! Maybe a bit soon for him but there are some decent managers around.  AC may be a good coach but he is no manager, been out thought on too many occasions for me.

    Watched the latter stages of last night's game. Very enjoyable match and Aldershot played really well with a clear plan that they executed well. Didn't't realise it was Tommy but he came across very well, personable and engaging, though he had clearly had a good night. Who knows?

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    Stevenage (H) FAC2R Match thread 12th Dec

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    4 hours ago, ValeForever. said:

    This idea that people are "voting with their feet" has to stop. I haven't looked, but I bet if you look at our average home gate this season, it won't be far off the average for the past 2 x seasons. Ppl going on like we've lost thousands of fans overnight. We haven't.

    Last night's attendance was <ovf censored> because it was a Tuesday night replay which nobody wanted, ahead of next week's QF v Boro. Simple as that.

    We have several homes games coming up in the next few weeks, including 3 this week alone. People are clearly prioritising certain games in the build up to Christmas based on cost. Last night was right at the bottom of the priority list for myself & I'd guess many others, hence the low attendance. 

    My views on AC. I'm not a massive Crosby fan, but I can also totally understand why the club are not yet looking to make a change. A few points to flip things around a little & see things through the clubs eyes:

    We're 6 points clear of the relegation zone with a game in hand on a couple. That's following an absolute stinking run of results. From a League position perspective, what were people expecting this season? Did ppl genuinely think we'd be pushing for top 6? I expected mid table with ups & downs & so far, that is exactly what we are getting.

    Freak opening day aside can anybody recall a game we've been battered in? We've been in every single game this season, despite not performing particularly well at times (Cheltenham at home stands out as the 1 x abomination) & struggling for goals. We've lost by the odd goal v Bolton & Derby & not looked a million miles off it.

    He's changed the style of football with a brand new squad. They have been together for 4 months & most are on 2 x year deals, including Crosby himself. He's playing in to the clubs ambitions around giving youth a chance if it's good enough. There's an argument to say (& this is all ifs & buts) had we signed somebody who could stick the ball in the net, we'd be comfortably top half & potentially knocking for top 6.

    He's made a bit of money through the performances in the cups, including lining up a League Cup QF next week where we stand a slim, yet realistic chance, of pulling off a result & reaching a 2 x legged semi final in a major cup against a prem giant.

    Hypothetically, if we beat Wigan on Saturday & are sat comfortably in mid table, then pull off a shock result v Boro to reach the semis, are ppl still calling for his head? I'd also ask, if we were having this season & DC was in charge, would people be calling for his head? I'll tell you the answer, not a chance. 

    Last night was a kick in the teeth for the club. There's been a few results this season like that unfortunately. We were 1 x minute away from a potentially lucrative shot in the FA Cup, twice. It stings. I'll add, we went out to Exeter at home last season under DC.

    Several home games coming up & I think the picture will become much clearer by the middle of Jan. This is a poor League this year & the standard compared to last year is nowhere near. Nobody (bar game 1) has blown us away & that's because there's not alot between any of the teams. Games decided by small moments of quality up top & lack or errors at the back (Bolton & Derby games).

    I'm clearly in the minority from a OVF perspective but I think he should be given time. He would get the full season for me, including Jan transfer window. There has to be some continuation at some point, we can't keep ripping things up & starting over. I think lots of ppl are jumping on the sacking bandwagon without considering all of the points, because it's much easier to go with the majority. I genuinely do not think he comes close to taking us down.

    Finally, if somebody had said to you at the start of the season that we'll be mid table come the New Year, ask yourself, would you have accepted it?

    4 of the next 6 league games are at home & we've got struggling Wycombe & Carlisle away from home. We're 4 points off 11th placed Shrewsbury who we have 2 x games in hand over (they have scored 13 league goals all season & have lost more games than us). We're 4 points off 12th placed Northampton who have also lost more games than us. We have 1 x game in hand on them as well. We've drawn 3 x games over 90 minutes with 3rd placed Stevenage, 2 of those away from home.

    Things aren't as grim as ppl would have you believe. I've witnessed much much worse following the Vale. Please show some patience & support. We are trying to build slowly, the club have been crystal clear on the strategy. Back them.

    Lot of food for thought there, ValeForever, and I can understand why so many people have liked your post. Its greatest value is that it probably gives us the best insight into the way AC is seen by the great and good at the club, including Carol. My problem though is that, as you say yourself, it's all ifs and buts: I don't see any reasonable grounds for believing that we will see the kind of improvement we need to escape our current steep losing trajectory taking us straight back to L2.

    We've had twelve months to assess Crosby and, during that substantial period, the club has the worst record of any in L1. Where is the logic or, more to the point, the evidence that would lead us to conclude that a significant transformation in our fortunes is going to take place? It just isn't there.

    As last night's debacle demonstrated so graphically, he is simply out of his depth. He lacks the insight and skills even to see out a game, therefore simultaneously ruining our chances of going on an unbeaten run, losing the club the opportunity to win a small fortune, and damaging morale and confidence among even the most diehard supporters (let alone the players). As a manager, he has no track record of any sort to fall back on.

    Imho, and I know others will see it differently, this tells us one thing: the sooner he goes the better. 

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    Stevenage (H) FAC2R Match thread 12th Dec

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    1 minute ago, Davo666 said:

    Carol won't sack Bing, we're stuck with him !!

    That's my feeling too. He'll cling on and on until we're looking over the precipice back to L2 and then she might act  - unless of course she thinks he's the right bloke to lead us back after relegation. Then we really will be stuck with him.

    But there's a price to be paid for that: first of all, plummeting gates and then all the lost income from losing your L1 status and all the disproportionate costs of players on L1 wages. 

    Someone needs to do the maths or we'll be back where we were three seasons ago - loyalty to a manager has its limits.

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    Vote of No Confidence (2)

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    1 hour ago, valefan79 said:

    I don't get why we can't attract a decent manager with pedigree.  I admit if you go for a manager out of a job, the likelihood is that he will have failed in one job or had a bad recent run.  I look back to 2010 when Micky Adams was appointed, he had always been at Championship or top of league 1 and we got him take over after nearly dropping out of the football league.  There are managers out there who will think I need to drop down to get another shot at Championship level.  

    News here in the Far East is that Cambridge have just signed Neil Harris, ex-Millwall and Cardiff, as their new manager on an 18 month contract. Great appointment imho and goes to show there are good managers out there who will come to lower league clubs. Crosby is taking us back to L2 and there is no evidence to show he can improve. Time for change, please Carol, before it's too late. 

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    Vote of No Confidence (2)

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    8 hours ago, bomber said:

    There is no way we will get anything at Exeter . So where will we go from there I wonder.

    If we lose at Exeter and Crosby stays, it will show that Carol has either no sense or no money.

    Personally, I think he'll stay until the end of December (Happy Christmas, everyone) until his position is absolutely untenable (as if it isn't now).

    Truly awful stuff. 

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    Vote of No Confidence (2)

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    On 30/11/2023 at 19:03, werstayinup said:

    He would of been my first choice thats for sure,they will pay him decent money tbf

    Not sure who else is out of work who i would like but my 2nd choice is Pete Wild although it doesn't look like Crosby is going anywhere soon

    Pete Wild is the obvious choice. Barrow have the fourth least valuable squad in L2 and there they are proudly sitting in 3rd place, so value for money personified and on a shoestring budget. And a win ratio of 44.44%.

    But you're right - Crosby isn't going anywhere, not at least until we're rooted in the bottom four with no signs of improvement. My guess is that Carol will stick by him until the last possible moment and then replace him with Dunn until the end of the season, and with a win ratio of 15.22% as a manager, that ain't exactly promising.

    To be honest, I think we're skint. 

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    25 minutes ago, Smallthorne clampet said:

    I think there is a need for a striker coach now at the club . Foyley improved Akpo and Constantine , we have a full time goalkeeping coach for two keepers over 30 - you would think they have sussed it out by now . A striker coach might improve our present forward players .

    A striker coach might help but I fear it's much more fundamental. We have a manager who shows no evidence of being able to set the team up as an attacking force so no matter how well drilled our forwards are if the team organisation, tactics and approach play are lacking then we won't create chances. As someone else has posted on here, if we signed Haaland he wouldn't be able to score. 

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    Middlesborough H EFL QF Tickets/Crowd

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    7 hours ago, gavcradd said:

    Embarrassing by some Vale fans to be honest. Look at the prices for the other three quarter-finals, you'd be lucky to get in to any of then for double what Vale are charging. 

    It will still sell out, I'm sure of it. And we'll make a decent wedge from it. Vale are a business, albeit a family-concious one, not a charity.

    Just thinking of what a decent wedge might be. Assuming attendance of 12,000 @£25 gives gate receipts of £300k, our share of which @ 40% gives a wedge of £120k. Not as much as we would have pulled in from a premier club fixture but not to be sneezed at, especially as the club doesn't bank on any cup receipts when fixing its budget.

    Think these assumptions are correct - but the bigger attendance the better!

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