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    Summer transfer rumours and speculation

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    4 hours ago, PVFC764 said:

    Clubs can be wealthy and have the most expensive players.  But if they don't play as a team and for each other, then it wont work.  

    Seen in several rich clubs and too many divas in them.

    Stockport are going well, but I do take your point about signing the right type of player. Having said that Money seems to be working far better than the Process.

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    Burton (A) match thread - 23rd March

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    12 minutes ago, PV1973 said:

    He’s never been a goal scoring striker. 

    Unfortunately as a striker its primarily what you are judged on. Think he is playing way above his level. Needs to drop down several leagues where he will get more chances per game and hopefully for him might then score the odd goal.

    January Transfers and Rumours

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    55 minutes ago, tommytunstall said:

    Mr Flitcroft look at the Notts County forward Jatta, signed from Viborg on the last day of the transfer window, only came into the first team last week, he’s already got three goals, yes three, just shows players are out there if you are bothered, on top of Jatta they have Langstaff and McGoldrick, wow compared to our blunt force of strikers. Why oh why won’t we sign decent Players?

    Decent players ? Even better, we sign Phenomenal ones. 

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    Apathy.

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    7 hours ago, Packmoor_vale said:

    They had left there seats and gone inside by the time the chants started

    Hopefully PV if I heard them as I walked passed the old Goose Pub they still heard them inside the Vale Hospitality areas.

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    Oxford (H) match thread - 16th March

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    5 hours ago, valeparklife said:

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    We're breaking all sorts of records this season!

    Allegedly our Management team are big fans of analysing Stats. Wonder what they make of this one ?

    1. Phenomenal

    2. The Players wives say everything will be OK

    3. Maybe , just Maybe all those fans calling for Flitcroft out might just know what they are talking about.

     

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    Season ticket renewals

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    38 minutes ago, hoof it hank said:

    Leek town are having a blinding season, top of the league and scoring for fun .  Downside no free drink.

    Yes top of the League is OK but what about the really important thing ? whats the pitch like ?

    Who would want to go watch a Top of the League side playing on a rubbish pitch. Much prefer watching a rubbish , bottom of the League side play on a wonderful pitch. Appeals to my aesthetics.

    Oh by the way I also think our DoF is doing a great job. Anyway must dash as I have a fitting for my strait jacket.

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    Season ticket renewals

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    Just now, darren1810 said:

    You'd hope recruitment already in full swing for some early deals in May that can be announced to whet our appetite. 

    Unless one of the players we've chased all summer isn't able to sign until 11.50pm on deadline day 😕. 

    Nothing to worry about , Flickers is already chasing another striker to play alongside Lofty. League 2 defences are already quaking in their boots.

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    PVFC Meet delegation of fans regarding current concerns

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    28 minutes ago, Bede said:

    I wrote the following account yesterday but decided to sleep on it before posting.  I feel I must now clarify, given the responses since the release of the official statement.

    OK, so to first explain how this has come about.  I am the co-founder of the Black & Gold Group, but also current sitting Secretary of the Supporters' Club.  The SC, B&G and NLV have all been interwoven for many years, simply because we are all Vale fans with the same ultimate aims.  We all offer differing viewpoints on things but remain active together to provide a widespread view on situations. B&G have remained active, albeit in the background, for many years, mainly as observers and researchers.  With my SC hat on, we have been increasingly frustrated with everything at the club, same as everyone else.  We therefore requested a committee meeting a couple of months or so ago with the inclusion of Matt Hancock, who has offered himself up to the SC as the conduit between us and the club.  The relationship between SC and club has drifted apart as we feel that the club have not wanted to engage with us, and it seems that they have hijacked events that the SC have traditionally held, on behalf of the fans.  We all feel that the club are trying to control everything.  This meeting was intense.  I'm not slow at coming forward with my views, and neither is Paul Dixon, and Matt got absolute pelters.  To his credit, he took it all very well.  Never argued, never complained, never flounced off or made excuses.  He took it all in.

    Following that meeting, Mark Porter, Paul Dixon, and I have remained in constant contact with Matt, intensely pointing out the level of unrest amongst the fanbase.  He could quite easily cease communications with me because I have hardly been complimentary at times, but I have tried to reflect the level of anger, frustration, disappointment, and downright disengagement from the club.  Matt has actively sought to understand all of that.  We then held another meeting with Matt to delve a little deeper into the supporter discontent.  This then led to Matt setting up a meeting with Carol for him relay the mounting concerns to her, with her full attention.  It was then mutually agreed that a meeting should be held between us to face this head on.  During this period, other fans have also been voicing their concerns in their own ways to the club, so we therefore asked them to join in a collaborative effort.

    Matt then gave us a list of dates that Carol would be available, and the meeting was set.  At no point were we given a time limit, a limit on numbers of members that could attend, or any actual pre-requisites at all.  All that was asked towards the date looming was a list of names of those attending.  The meeting was initially going to be between us and just Matt Hancock and Carol.  A couple of us then debated the merits of also requesting the attendance of Paddy.  We decided against it, but then as the meeting approached, we were told that Carol would like him to attend.  We ran it by our groups, and it was agreed that he should attend.

    So, on Monday evening, we held a meeting between 7pm until just gone 10pm.  The burning topic, of course, was David Flitcroft.  My view remains that I cannot see his position anything other than untenable.  A sentiment held by all of us on our side of the table.  Let's not dress that up any other way. The overwhelming evidence of fans in the ground, fans in the pubs, fans on social media, forums such as this and radio phone-ins, is that very few have remaining faith in our Director of Football.  You must understand that, had we sat down and screamed that Flitcroft is a w***** and he needs to f*** off, a 3-hour meeting would not have lasted 3 minutes.  And we would also be doing a dis-service to the other points that needed addressing.

    We went into the meeting well researched, with a formal agenda from which to raise our points.  After lots and lots of debate around the obvious, we then discussed the other topics; those being the communications coming out of the club, the problems with ticketing, the matchday supporter facilities and overall 'experience' and the potential for better fan engagement with the club going forward.  The club seemed surprised at some of the issues raised.  They did admit failings in communication, they also saw a different viewpoint on the other topics that they had not considered.  Above all else, they appeared genuinely shocked and saddened at what we were telling them, in terms of the overall disconnect between fans and club.

    Now, we all know that admitting failure, and expressing shock and sadness at things is all well and good, but they need to let their actions do the talking.  We hope that they now understand that loud and clear.  It's over to them to deliver results.

    So please let me make it abundantly clear.  We recognise that fans are not happy.  This season, we have seen fans fighting amongst themselves in the stands.  We have seen much anger directed at Flitcroft, at our players for abject performances.  We have seen growing complaints against the disparity of ground improvements.  We have an utterly unworkable relationship between the Supporters' Club and the club.  We have seen an alarming lack of respect shown to us fans by the club, not least by way of Carol's letter, David Flitcroft's Podcast, and the ignorance displayed towards our concerns at the last fans' forum.

    We are taking those issues to the club because they all need to be fixed.  Do not think for one moment that we are easily pacified.  But we must be logical.  We cannot just rock up with a list of demands.  There will have to be compromise and understanding from both sides.  The first step in that healing process is to meet and hit the problems head on.  Monday's meeting was exactly that.  We don't have any answers, or results to report back on, from one solitary, intense meeting.  But it is the start of some much needed honest and frank dialogue.  How this pans out is yet to be decided. 

    We've been in much worse states.  We have battled to remove two rogue owners in the last 13 or so years.  These owners are not rogue.  But it's fair to say they have misaligned their focus.  Please support us in regaining that.  And please understand our respect for the Shanahan family, despite all our current differences.

    We've hopefully now opened doors and we look forward to the club holding much more open dialogue with the wider fanbase.

    Thank you, great post. Explains much more and in an honest and direct format than the official communique did.

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    PVFC Meet delegation of fans regarding current concerns

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    29 minutes ago, JoeB2 said:

    A final point is that, through the business-spiel language, it is clear that the fans were heavily critical of Flitcroft.

    • Robust and honest feedback around accountability for football performance.

    An extremely corporate and negotiated way of saying ‘the fans want him gone’.

    I think it’s obvious that Carol’s position hasn’t, and probably won’t, change.

    Again, I wasn’t in the meeting and didn’t have any involvement, but those calling for Flitcroft to be sacked are likely to be disappointed.

    I think the best we fans can hope for is that our DoF gets his duties  re assigned, 

    Sanitary facilitator perhaps ?. He has made himself seemingly indispensable to the powers that be so he isnt going to get the boot not from my reading of Carols letter to the fans.

    David Flitcroft Out

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    13 hours ago, Playa Amodores said:

    Just making ppl aware of what is probably a scam email. I’ve been contacted as it’s my birthday soon stating that I can attend a game for £79 three course meal sit in corporate seating. None of that concerned me it was the last sentence that did, when it said, I could be present for the man of the match award.

    Boomer has been consistent.

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    Peterborough (A) match thread - 10th March

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    10 minutes ago, darren1810 said:

    I agree about the backlog but the 3 days he now has before a humongous game at Cheltenham could be priceless. 

    You could argue if we win there then barring unbelievable form the bottom 3 will be somewhat cut adrift.

    Would not fancy going Cheltenham after a potential chastening defeat tonight. 

    Could we now get a striker in, appreciate its from a limited pool.

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    Peterborough (A) match thread - 10th March

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    31 minutes ago, Rampant Zebra said:

    What do you mean "at the moment" we haven't been prolific for quite a while apart from the odd blip. Goal difference says it all.

    It would appear we have been missing a prolific goal scorer for several transfer windows now, the lack of one almost took us down last season., perhaps DF ought to read OVF. The Posh have always been a tough opponent as people have said even when we have been a good Vale side. We certainly arent one of those at the moment and yes OK the Posh may be having a temporary blip but our league position indicates our blip is of the more permanent type. Would snatch your hand off for a draw now but our lack of goals and the quality of the opposition at home makes me fear the worst.

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    David Flitcroft Out

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    Flitcroft out. He ridiculed the guy at the forum the other night who raised the relegation issue, very quiet now. After the events of Monday Flitcroft chucks the Academy managers under the bus rather than manage the team himself in an emergency situation.

    Good Managers lead from the front and when the going gets tough are in the trenches with you. Flitcroft is hiding behind Carols skirt safely 5 miles from the front. Sums the guy up perfectly.

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