Old fort

February 22

16 minutes ago, NorthwoodValiant said:

Probably not life long, just from the age of about 9.

Although I only started paying for my own at 17 if you want to go on the wasted money metric

The last two years must have been interesting for you

February 22

45 minutes ago, Devine intervention said:

You know what I don't think we will get relegated.

It doesn't feel like we will to me .

Darren Moore will keep Vale up

You have to remember no Plant Garrity or Clark for lots of season missing games between them ,they are back .

We have deserved at least 10 more points than what we currently have .

I can see us winning 4 or 5 on the trot at home .

The more I listen to Moore the more I'm sure it's going turn .

Keep the faith have your season ticket thread thing end of march.

Long way go yet 90 minutes X 15 .

I can see mighten winning penalties.

I can see Wilson shining again especially next 2 games .

I cannot for the life of me seeing loft score but what if he does and then scores 5 in 6 .

Garrity when back at full pelt well he's already scored 11 goals and that's without playing with Mighten who to me I'd give the ball to constantly.

Chislett going smack some worldies in and Vale parks going erupt gamely every game between now and end of season .

OK Ripleys going have play well but play well he does .

Still wouldn't trust defence as far as throw them but maybe Moore can give them a more you ain't going score mindset and they actually do there jobs for all 90 not for 75 then switch off .

All to play for

But the issue isn't about relegation or survival. It's about Flitcrofts protracted failure in improving what touches a football. If we're are to survive it'll be despite him, not because of him.

I'll be there on Saturday and every home game between now and the end of the season, cheering, not booing, hoping that we can get the points that'll guide us to safely, even if the performance is crap.

Avoiding relegation won't exonerate DF's record of failure or influence whether I trust him with my season ticket money.

February 22

44 minutes ago, NorthwoodValiant said:

I'll take your season ticket for the rest of the season if you don't want it mate,

I'll pick up from wherever no mither

I was convinced that you were already a life long S T holder

February 22

5 minutes ago, man in the pub said:

And it's not on the pitch where it really, really matters. Who is the man responsible for everything the ball touches ?

Simple. If we're wining Flickers, if we're losing, the manager.

February 22

1 minute ago, man in the pub said:

And it's not on the pitch where it really, really matters. Who is the man responsible for everything the ball touches ?

Gordon Lee

February 22

6 minutes ago, NorthwoodValiant said:

No people aren't renewing because we aren't winning, and by not winning we are in the relegation zone.

Noone would give a <ovf censored> about Flitcroft if we were in 14th place

I've always renewed, irrespective of what league we're in, so relegation has little to do with it. For me it's not about not backing or supporting the Vale, but more a case of handing over a large amount of money in financially tough times, to be wasted in such a way that has resulted in creating a weaker squad for two consecutive years, while seeing no rational explanation for it, or any action of accountability. While 14th place wouldn't be settling the world alight, most would see it as steady progress, coupled with a degree of stability, however the DoF has fallen short yet again and his decisions and performance is the sole reason for our situation. So I agree, not many people would give a stuff about Flitcroft if we were 14th, because most would recognise that as being not great, but acceptable

Still, I guess the phrase is "We go again" eh!? Even though its with blinkered optimism.

One final point, is that not a single one of us take any satisfaction in feeling the need to express anything negative about our club, because we all love the Vale

February 21

2 minutes ago, MiddleportValiant said:

Vote with your wallet and feet, that's the only way to see change if you're unhappy with the current predicament

Yes mate, it hurts, but seems to be what may be the current thinking of a few.

February 21

For the first time in umpteen seasons, sadly I'm seriously considering NOT renewing mine and the wife's season tickets. Not because of the fact that we may be in L2 yet again, but because I find it totally demoralising we're parting with our hard earned brass, so that a stark failure of a DoF can squander it yet again, in exactly the same fashion that his last two years track record has demonstrated,

I know this isn't positively supporting the club and harms the club, but really I,like many others, can't afford to waste money for the reward of feeling utterly depressed and miserable, after watching defeat after defeat

The hype, national coverage and massive over positivity which was fanfared post promotion, had me and many others hooked, as we were sold a ridiculous notion that Port Vale were on an upward trajectory, backed by the prospect of a professional, business set up and the pledge of making new memories . Well that aged well, didn't it? We now certainly have new memories, but not ones that we'll treasure.

So I guess there's a part of me that feels a little embarrassed at been taken for a fool for buying in to all that, but I'm also angry at the clubs failure to address the situation that has been allowed to fester while seemingly, being in total denial of it, as demonstrated as an example, by that bizarre open letter, which was always going to back fire.

Anyway,that's it.

February 20

1 minute ago, Brian Johnson said:

You already know the answer to that

Is the Ansells league still going?

February 20

12 minutes ago, PVFC764 said:

With this lot of players. Jones - injured (no doubt 2 weeks - which then turns into 2 months).

Grant came on and couldn't defend for toffee.

The teams around us have bought players in and doing better than us.

If we keep to 4 at the back formation - then yes we have a chance.

I still think we'd concede playing with a back ten.

February 19

45 minutes ago, Killersrevenge44 said:

The money paid to Jones came before the Finney winner vs Macclesfield.

All academic now of course. If you look back Rudge was millimeters away from the sack... The difference back then was he brought in players like Mills and Hughes... Can you compare that team to the rubbish in the side today.

Of course, memory failed me for that one. Thanks for the correction.

February 19

41 minutes ago, Killersrevenge44 said:

The money paid to Jones came before the Finney winner vs Macclesfield.

All academic now of course. If you look back Rudge was millimeters away from the sack... The difference back then was he brought in players like Mills and Hughes... Can you compare that team to the rubbish in the side today.

Wayne Steggles, all of a sudden becomes world class.

February 19

2 hours ago, Railwayman said:

The quickest way to increase revenue is to have a successful and entertaining product on the pitch this increases attendances,Merchandise,advertising etc which then gives you the funds to improve infrastructure not the other way round.

I applaud Carol & the board for their long term vision and agree with them ( apart from the style of play which is boring ) but we have to get our priorities in the right order.

Exactly this. I can only speak for myself, but, when we were beating Everton, Man City, Sjoke, to name but a few, I couldn’t give a flying flamingo about the state of the bogs, or anything else,, other than what we were being treated to on the pitch.

Different times, of course, but it all started with Kevin Finneys late winner against Macc, followed by the £3k that Rudgie paid Rhyl, for Mr.Andrew Jones.

One day, hopefully when it's not too late, someone with a bit of influence at the club, will get out of bed one morning and say ''Oh yeah, I can see now what will get the fans in to the ground" I can tell them for free, that it isn't to prioritise 3rd party infrastructure, in cart before the horse fashion.

February 18

16 hours ago, Killersrevenge44 said:

But she won't as has been proven.

You are now starting to see the light

Billy Belly or Bratty wouldnt have put up with this nonsense and neither would Smurf.

Decent post until you mentioned Smurf.

February 17

1 hour ago, saintvaliant said:

Responsible for everything that touches the pitch but accountable for none of it.

Possibly ,the most succinct post ever.

February 17

16 minutes ago, butt lane vale fan said:

I can only judge people as I find so I'll be honest, I don't understand where all this hatred for the bloke comes from off fans. OK some of the transfer activity as been crap with regards to Stikers ect, but he can only spend what Carol gives him. H The prob I think for him, is some fans will always be up Pope's backside and so once Pope did that interview slatting Flitcroft he's always been onto a loser.

I judge people as I find them too, but I judge employees on performance and his has fallen massively short, as displayed by the main KPI, namely, the league table, which is determined by the product on the field.

February 17

Bottom line is, Flitcroft has assembled this abysmal squad and must take sole responsibility. As for the plaudits that he's got for attracting DM, we wouldn't have needed him if Flittcroft hadn't decimated and weakened the squad. All that hard work and progress is now warm, yellow and running down the wall in the form of a long thin stream.

January 30

53 minutes ago, TJHValiant said:

Two dreadful owners doesn’t mean by virtue the current one is wonderful. That’s just comparing two turds with a diamond.

Didn't know we are after diamonds, so it'd be interesting to know where there is one.

January 30

16 hours ago, TJHValiant said:

It’s all very frustrating. Carol holding an evening with handpicked guests to fawn over Robbie Williams, while real fans are asking when we will get some proper players in.

If I didn’t know better, I’d say she owns Vale for the social aspects and as a supper club rather than any burning desire to see a successful football team. It seems like one big community social club…for her.

Where's Smurf when we need him? Hang on, what's Bill Bratt doing? A real fan he was

January 23

4 minutes ago, SFBT said:

6-5?

Which way?

January 23

11 minutes ago, Vtid said:

As good as dictating the games Ollie & Alfie's goals & assists returns weren't anything special in fact slightly poor to be honest. I have a feeling Gore will be involved in goals a bit more 🔥

Absolutely and don't forget Weir can belt them as well. Only concern is if we can defend midfield as well as attack from it.

January 23

After all the rumours and speculation, it's brilliant to see this move materialise. Not too long ago, those rumours and speculation served only to sell disappointment, but how things have changed.

In fairness to the lad, he must have his head screwed on, not for it to be turned by some of the "bigger" clubs he was linked with, so good youth for chosing the Vale.

I hope our fans allow him the time to adapt and not expect him to pick up where Alfie and Blaster left off, because despite the hype, he's still only 19 with a lot to learn, though of course, he's clearly very talented and because of what we saw in those two, expectation will and should be there.

Welcome Dan, you've come to our club and we'll look after you, if you play to your ability, the fans will love you to bits and when the time comes for you to return to Old Trafford, you'll do so a better player, better person and with the fondest memories of the Vale and SVA.

January 21

22 hours ago, osprey said:

Is he a striker?

Don't know, but apparently, he's on fire at the moment

January 20

1 hour ago, Loggerheads Sage said:

And Telford on the bench. Both came on and did nowt. Both supposed targets of ours in the past.

Proven goal scorers, this and that, then how many toys were launched out of how many prams when we didn't sign them? Same with Nicky Maynard.

BTW, irreverent now, but apparently,Alfie had an impressive debut for Plymouth and on another note, I see that JA is no longer Hartlepool manager, having been replaced by Kevin Phillips.

January 4

10 minutes ago, Brian Johnson said:

Sorry Mrs Fort

Sorry for what?

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