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  1. I trust the experts in this area on who they decide to put on the red list etc. You have to understand these variants get their name just because thats the country where that variant first got sequenced. The exact same variant has also been detected in 44 other countries. It could just be these are the stages this virus goes through naturally. We need to tackle it as a world not just simply think we can hide away from it. With endless lockdowns. I personally don’t think he did much wrong. He Listened to the experts and implemented what they recommended. Or are you saying if you were in charge you would have made the decision to Lockdown sooner??? You think that would be an easy decision to make with ZERO consequences??? How would you cope with someone who later told you that because you locked the country down so quick their wife's doctors appointment was cancelled. Where she would have found out she had cancer and got treatment quickly. But because of you Iron Curtain shes now dead and you have blood on your hands for your awful choice to lockdown without giving people chance to make preparations. What on earth were you thinking. 1000s of others post similar heartbreaking stories about how the early and long lockdown caused their teenage child to commit suicide. Mental health issues, people losing their livelihoods etc etc. Sack Iron Curtain starts trending on Twitter. It’s all so easy and simple isn’t it in your mind. But the reality is much more difficult. If all everyone had to do was lockdown 2 weeks earlier we wouldn’t have millions of deaths worldwide. They don’t have Boris in charge so whats their excuse?
  2. Is that the same Former Chief Scientist Sir David King that was responsible for the needless slaughter of 8 million cows during the BSE crisis. He also advised the Labour government to incentivise the use of diesel vehicles through lower fuel duty, which resulted in huge increases in air pollution in our cities. He’s “former” because he was totally useless and his advice always proved to be wrong. Before posting nonsense think for a second... If it was that simple we wouldn’t have 162,303,342 million coronavirus cases worldwide. 🤦🏻‍♂️
  3. Yes it was Boris’ team of experts that made it happen. If something goes wrong with anyone in his team you’re the first to rightly blame Boris and his decisions. So when an historic world class achievement is made he and his team deserve the plaudits. As is the case with this. Tip: Adding laughing emojis to your point doesn’t make it more valid. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 If anything it does the opposite. Thanks for listening.
  4. So did every highly populated democratic country on the planet. ALL of them have had huge deaths tolls in care homes especially at the early stages of the virus. Not because what you Claim that Every care home on the planet couldn’t be bothered to do anything. But because by the time China told us anything close to the truth about this virus it was already too late to save them. The virus was heavily spread in care homes worldwide 🌎
  5. No you are totally incorrect. What I posted is 100% Fact. Let me explain. Imagine if a pro-EU party had won the last general election. They Would have joined the EU Vaccine programme. Why wouldn’t they??? In fact their members would be furious if they didn’t do. So saying they “Could have done” is totally irrelevant as they wouldn’t have. The Only reason we weren’t part of that programme is due to the country voting to Leave the EU and then Voting to give a majority to an anti-EU party. So yes it’s fair to say many people who got vaccinated sooner due to us ditching the EU ironically owe their lives to Brexiters. i’m not in anyway making light of this awful pandemic. It’s just one of the many benefits of leaving the EU that lots of people including myself could never have predicted but are starting to now become apparent for all to see.
  6. This is some feedback for the Labour Party. I’d voted Labour most of my life until 2019. But Labour made it impossible for me to vote for them as they totally betrayed me and millions of others. They said in 2016 they’d honour our vote to leave the EU customs union. But they lied and before long they started to listen to a minority of Twitter youngsters constantly retweeting things to give the illusion that their far left naive view was the popular national opinion. So by the time the general election came round. The deal they offered me was horrible. Vote Labour Corbyn and Starmer said and we’ll cancel your previous vote to leave the EU customs union. Instead we’re going to run the vote again but this time both options will be to Stay in the EU customs Union. Basically a rigged vote. What kind of deal is that??? I was fuming 😡 We already had a vote and brexit should have been completed as everyone was sick of it. But no they said. Boris on the other hand offered to get Brexit done. ...and he got it done and none of the disastrous and quite frankly ridiculous predictions made by project fear happened. Then in March 2020 Coronavirus hit and we went into lockdown. The worst pandemic in 100 years. There had never been a vaccine for any coronaviruses before. Things looked bad for the world and 4 Million worldwide died. But by December of the same year Boris and the team injected a British woman with the world’s first fully tested and approved Vaccine before any other country. Which is a truly historic achievement. This Vaccine programme went on to be world class. So why are people like @Doha so surprised to see Boris’ popularity surge at the recent elections????? I don’t like the fact that the Twitter kids and momentum etc have steered Labour to be so unelectable. We all need Labour to come back and be a strong opposition. But they need to do better than “who paid for Boris’ curtains”. Jesus christ. Do better FFS 🤦🏻‍♂️ It’s terrible for the country to be a living in a one party state. 😢
  7. It is interesting when we look back at Brexit. Back then We never knew COVID-19 was just around the corner. So ironically 50,000 people who voted to remain, if they’d have got their way would now be dead. 💀 ⚰️ They owe their lives to us leaving the EU. As we’d have been stuck still waiting at the back of the queue for vaccines 💉 to arrive from the EU programme. So i would personally like to thank all the visionary brexiters out-there that saved so many UK lives. We now have to admit leaving the EU was the right thing to do.
  8. https://www.onevalefan.co.uk/forum/topic/42513-coronavirus/?do=findComment&comment=904880 It seems like the whole world’s elderly has been let down. Most countries death tolls are made up from around 60% deaths from Care Homes. 😢 it’s heartbreaking.
  9. I’ve been following this Covid crisis worldwide and I would say care homes has been the most common news story. Even Sweden are taking legal action against some of there care homes for failing. It seems like 60% of covid deaths Worldwide are in care homes. It’s proving to be the most difficult problem to solve.
  10. Yes he can do fantastic speeches that really move you. But he’s not just an after dinner speaker, he’s also one of the most successful highly educated politicians this country has ever produced. He won the Election to become Mayor of London. Then he won the Election to become Mayor of London yet Again. Against all the odds, He won a National Referendum to Leave the EU. He won the Election to become leader of the conservative party. Then he won his 1st of many General Election victories. That will eventually see him becoming the longest serving UK prime minister. Currently he’s winning the War on Covid. He’s a Winner, @tommytunstall will back me up on this. 😀
  11. I think i'm going to have to stop watching the news as seeing the poorer countries in the world with such limited resources starting to get covid and really struggling is getting bad for my mental health. I'd heard Mexico were having a tough time with Covid but it seems to be 10 times worse than what I ever imagined. 😢 Family members have to check inside the body bags to make sure they've actually been given the correct body to cremate, It's heartbreaking.
  12. They’re dead either way so i’m not sure it’s going to be as much consolation as you think unfortunately.
  13. ⚠️ Lets be honest though being in opposition is really easily. As you can say anything. Knowing you don’t have to actually get that achieved. For example: Boris could say: we are close to hitting 100,000 tests a day. Which is a great achievement considering we had no facilities for testing just a couple of months back. Keir could reply: Thats a disgrace, if i’d have been in charge we’d have done 500,000 test a day from day one. The virus would have been totally eradicated within 7 days. It was all so simple and obvious, why didn’t you just do that. When in reality he would have used the exact same leading experts to follow advice from and had the same NHS, the same lack of testing facilities. The exact same british public ignoring the advice and not washing their hands etc and the exact same death toll. It is easy to just say what was done wrong after the event heck even @TheSage and @tommytunstall can do that. But trying to control the worst pandemic in 100 years is much harder. This is why France, Italy and Spain are also on Almost the exact same numbers as England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 They don’t have Boris, so surely they should have 90% lower deaths than us. But they don’t.
  14. ☝️😂😂😂 ☝️😂😂😂 ☝️😂😂😂 ☝️😂😂😂 oh man, Nofinikea this thread is talking about a pandemic that’s already caused 296,000+ deaths and eventually millions will be dead from it. So can I please ask you stop posting that you are laughing about it every single post. It’s just comes across as insensitive. By all means have a go at Boris but please remember families are getting heartbreaking news everyday that their loved ones have died. So to find that so hilarious is a bit sick to be honest.
  15. It’s very disappointing that the EU allow China to censor and edit EU documents so they become more positive towards China. How can China have that kind of power over the EU ? also how many times have China done this in the past. Could be 1000s for all we know.
  16. I’ve been impressed with Keir Starmer so far. But removing a line of text in a document to change its meaning is a bit disappointing.
  17. Are their any legal experts on here? I just read this on the BBC Website, it seemed to be saying the Lockdown is highly illegal. So does this mean someone like Gena Miller could have the country back to normal in 24 hours if she wanted to? @TheSage you work in the legal field don't you, I would be interested in your take on this if you get chance. Thank you so much... --- Ex-top judge calls lockdown unjustifiable 'house imprisonment' Former Supreme Court Justice Lord Jonathan Sumption has attacked the continuing lockdown as an unjustifiable "house imprisonment of the whole population". In an interview with BBC Radio 4's PM programme, he said the lockdown should be lifted to allow the young and fit to save their livelihoods while anyone who is older or vulnerable can take steps to protect themselves. He said the only justification for a lockdown - saving the NHS from being overwhelmed - had passed. He said: "This is now the worst interference in personal liberty in our history for what is not, by historical standards, a particularly serious pandemic"
  18. To even do anything different at all the government Labour, Tory, Lib dem etc would have had to ignore advice from the countries leading scientific and medical experts. This is now what people Like WV are saying we should have done. Which is a ridiculous thing to encourage any government to do. Why on earth would you want your Government not to follow the steps set out by leading scientific and medical experts. We have followed the medical advice just as France, Italy and Spain have also done. This has resulted in around 30,000 deaths for all 4 of us. So its clear that is the going rate for countries like ours in this part of the world. But you and @TheSage conveniently continue to ignore this as it doesn’t suit your spin doctoring. Boris and his wonderful speeches, passion and energy has brought the country together in a way most of us have never seen in our lifetime. It’s been beautiful to see how everyone is helping each other and all fighting for the same cause no matter what our politics and differences. Unfortunately there are people like you WV who treat the Labour party like its your football team. There is nothing any leader of the blue team could ever do that you wouldn’t try to make out was disastrous. Even when the evidence shows otherwise. Many of us in Stoke on Trent used to vote Labour but when we didn’t like the terrible deal they offered us we voted elsewhere. That’s the way it should be. As we don’t treat it like its our football team like you do. You at every single election just vote Labour no matter what they say or do. As its your team and your dad and grandad always voted for the Red and White team of the Labour Party. So thats what you do and will Always do. I would say to everyone at the next election don’t be like WV, don’t treat politics like football ⚽️ Just do what I do look at all the parties and read up what they are offering. If you like the sound of it, Vote for that. Even if its The Green Party. Whoever. Don’t just vote Red and white Labour because your parents raised you as thats your team.
  19. It kinda does. You can’t have it both ways. You can have your own opinion but you can’t have your own facts. The going rate for countries in our area of the world with a similar size population to us 🌍 is 30,000 deaths. France, United Kingdom, Italy, Germany, Belgium and Spain are All in the Top 8 death tolls on the planet. Europe has been a very hard hit area. With people asymptotically spreading this virus since December 2019. So i’m not sure where this expectation that we should have the lowest deaths comes from. Very early on modelling suggested the UK could end up with over 500,000 deaths. But now having similar 30,000 numbers to our European equivalents is for some reason considered a failure by a few people on here. Where has this expectation that we should be automatically outperforming similar countries by huge margins come from? It’s totally unrealistic.
  20. You’ve raised a good point there. If what New Zealand have done was so easy to do as that video makes out. It makes me wonder why Germany didn’t do the exact same thing. They could have saved 7,342 lives. But just didn’t bother. Same can be said for France, Italy and Spain who are all now close to 30,000 deaths each. Reading this thread it seems that its purely Boris Johnson’s fault we have our death toll. So France, Italy and Spain etc all should have tiny death tolls with their superior leaders. 🤔 If what you guys say is correct. Yes? But they don’t, how very strange.
  21. The NHS has always been under funded since its inception. No matter which political party has ran it. 2020 is the most money that’s ever been spent on the NHS. Astronomical amounts. But it will still be perceived as not enough. Spolier Alert: It will always be under funded as its a flawed system.
  22. Have you added Nicola Sturgeon and her scientific teams figures and others etc to get a higher figure to blame Boris for? As when I saw the figures for England on TV earlier today they were much lower than that. Does anyone have a link that gives us updates for England? I wish Scotland, wales and Northern Ireland all the best. But as I live in England I want to follow what’s happening here. But I can’t find a site that gives the stats for England. Thank you in advance for any links. 😎👍🏻 Stay Safe Valiants.
  23. Yes like I said, being in the EU has been totally useless during this pandemic.
  24. I agree WV all governments should be held accountable and it can be helpful for the opposition to raise issues that need attention etc. But I genuinely think our government and the NHS has done us proud and have all put in decent performances. Some of Boris’ leadership has been brilliant and his speeches have really moved me and helped get the nation to all come together and make this lockdown work. The main objectives at the start was to flatten the peak and help the NHS not to be overwhelmed. That has been successful so far. I take it then if you think we’ve done a poor job you also think other similar countries like Italy, France and Spain have also done poor as they have almost freakily identical stats to us.
  25. Everything has been guided by the science from the start. The medical and scientific experts are on TV every single afternoon explaining every decision they make. It’s there for everyone to see.
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