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11 hours ago, Spunk Trumpet said:
Barrow have Dom Telford and Cole Stockton.
We have Ryan Loft and Uche Ikpeazu.
Barrow have missed out on the league two playoffs.
Stockton got 7 in 12. Telford only 4.
But two seasons ago, Telford got 25 in league 2 at the age of 28. Stockton got 23 in league 1 at the age of 28.Uche will be 30 in February and hasn’t hit a barn door in his career.
It won’t start now.
It won’t start in August.
It won’t start in August 2025.
He’s garbage.I don’t want my strikers to do a “job”. I want them to score or contribute to goals.
He can’t do either.
It’s as simple as that.
Yes Uche has never been prolific but he's played most of his career in League 1 or the Championship so plenty of qualified people in the game have seen fit to employ him. It would be interesting to know how many goals his strike partners & attacking midfielders have scored when playing alongside him. Don't get me wrong I would expect us to sign at least 2 strikers who know where the back of the net is but I think there is room for Uche in a squad of 4/5 strikers. There will be games/opposition that will suit his style. It would depend for me on whether we would be able to offload Loft as there probably isn't room for both of them.
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10 hours ago, valiant_593 said:
We playing 3 strikers then? I’m sorry but a striker, in fact a footballer shouldn’t be missing chances like on Saturday.
Not sure what be careful what you wish for is suggesting. We’ve just been relegated with possibly the worst vale side I have ever seen. Some of these muppets aren’t league 2 players.
If we have 4 strikers on the books, explain to me the types of strikers you would have. I bet a big number 9 would be amongst them. If so, give me a list of league 2 number 9s who would do a better job than uche.
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Big difference between L1 and L2 so be careful what we wish for. Persuading good players to join us in L2 not going to be easy. Re Uche, he's a pain in the arse for opposition defences. Every team needs one who isn't necessarily prolific. His problem has been he's being judged on goals because we haven't got any other strikers capable of scoring. If we can pick up at least 2 goalscorers then uche will be a big asset playing alongside them.
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I'm expecting the biggest crowd of the season. Nothing like a good boo-fest to get the fans flooding to VP.
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14 minutes ago, Killersrevenge44 said:
Good managers make a success of what they have.
Good managers make the best out of what they have, which doesn't mean that they will achieve success if the collective ability of the squad is below the level required.
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1 hour ago, southport vale said:
Enjoyed watching him play when available but I think teams knew he was easy to crock and gave him heavy treatment.
I'll never forget that brilliant pass and the goal at Wembley.
Good luck James.He gets the same treatment as any other striker. This is the problem, fans keep making excuses for him. Personally, I'd keep him on a pay as you play deal as back up to hopefully 2 or 3 much better ones.
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5 minutes ago, Bimbleabout said:
All of them can go apart from Conner, Ben,Chissy possibly ojo and maybe the Yak. I'd personally keep Uche,not that he will stay if he has any chance of going. Obviously keep all the acadamy lads. No doubt they will be sold for 15 to 50k ASAP
Be careful what you wish for; no guarantee that we would be able to assemble a squad that's any better than what we have. We are assessing our players based on how they have performed in L1, which is a big step up from L2. Others that you have failed to mention will do us a job in L2; add a sprinkling of decent signings and we may have enough to come straight back up. I am confident that DM will not allow another failed transfer window to happen.
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24 minutes ago, DazFred said:
What Carol needs to understand is that the club is nothing without fans.
Yesterday the players kicked off to a tune I have never heard before. Who decided that? We always sing The Wonder of You to get the crowd going at kick off. Darren Moore urged us to nudge the fan next to us and get them singing. To what? It's always the fans fault it seems.
We scored a goal and usually sing Glad all over. It wasn't played. Why? Is that the fans fault ?
Noticed that aswell, strange decision.
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30 minutes ago, robf said:
I personally always thought Benning got some unfair flack. However, I could see the logic in him going if he was to be replaced with a better player. The problem is - as others have pointed out - he hasn't been replaced with anyone better.
To be fair, connor grant is, on paper, that better player. Most fans hailed that as a good signing but its obviously not turned out that way.
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The fact that this thread exists beggars belief. In what other sport would the manager/coach come under fire after 2 weeks in a job, let alone the one that DM has taken on.
As for him not being the sharpest tool in the box, this is football folks or should we be looking towards Oxford or Cambridge University for our next manager?
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8 minutes ago, darren1810 said:
Wow what an over the top reaction.
I can't be arsed with it. It's not threatening to me whether someone identifies as a mushroom, non binary or whatever.
Was merely asking in response to someone else does anybody from that community actually give two hoots a football has a rainbow on it. I'd suggest not.
Forgive me it was Melbourne Valiant who was expressing strong views, its him/her (😉) I should have quoted.
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24 minutes ago, darren1810 said:
Does it though?
I can't begin to speak for that community. But does having a rainbow ball send out any real message?
If anything it's almost patronising.
I've got no strong feelings about stuff like this so I struggle to understand why people find it so offensive. Do you feel threatened by it? If so, why? It's hardly a force for evil? 😕 Maybe go and live in Russia if you feel that strongly.
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11 minutes ago, Spunk Trumpet said:
My reaction was one of surprise at a 5 and a half year contract. But ultimately I was thinking it was too little too late for a proper manager to come in. The cynic in me would say they got him in to take the heat off Flitcroft. Because if we had appointed Mark Kennedy for example then there is no honeymoon period.
Do I think he’s a good manager? Yes I do.
Do I think he’s walked into a <ovf censored> show of a football club who haven’t the foggiest idea what to do in footballing terms? Yes I do.
Do I think he will damage his reputation here under Flitcroft? Yea I do. Look at the hand Crosby was dealt. And I’m not saying he was anywhere near good enough.
Do I think he will keep us up? It’s the wrong question to ask and an unfair one.
Do I think David Flitcroft will take us down? Yes I do.
The buck stops with him and the mess he’s made. In all of my years going from the 80s, to not go into a season and a half with at least two goalscoring strikers is absolutely criminal.
I don’t like arguing with my fellow vale fans but Christ almighty, it’s there for all to see.
Blind faith and getting behind the lads isn’t going to get us out of this mess! We are beyond saving. Bar an absolute miracle. That’s my head talking. You’re going with your heart and that’s a bad disappointment to have to deal with.
Asking whether moore can keep us up is an unfair question but ask if you think flitcroft will take us down you'll say yes? Bit confused by that but my point is anyone who last week thought Moore could save us but doesn't now because we've lost 2 games in less than a week of his being in the job needs to give their head a wobble.
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6 minutes ago, Spunk Trumpet said:
Are you thick? Read what I’ve put.
You can put Pep in charge of this shower and he wouldn’t keep us up.Wake up.
What was your reaction to Moore's appointment?
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5 minutes ago, Spunk Trumpet said:
A week ago, fans were living in blind hope he’d be able to get a tune. They still knew the problems. None of this lies at Darren Moores door. It lies at the door of the DOF.
So 2 games later all hope is gone? Tell me how much time he has been able to spend on the training pitch and BEGIN to implement his ideas? To expect that all a new manager has to do is pitch up, pick the team and give a rousing team talk is pretty naive.
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19 minutes ago, Spunk Trumpet said:
The problem is that the manager at that time had accumulated 96 points with a quality outfit.
We have a dog <ovf censored> squad. Full of kids or utter guff. None who are good enough, apart from the odd 2 or 3.
We have just accumulated 2 points from our last 8 games and 12 points from our last 15.
Dont have a go for mocking your post. They are using their head and have their eyes wide open.
We can’t defend. We don’t make the opposition keeper make a save, never mind score! We’ve still got to go to Peterborough and Derby and you’re knocking the fans for disagreeing with you?
Good lord.
Youre living in cuckoo land on blind faith. The majority of us can see it for what it is.
Don’t start crying for Flitcroft to go at the end of the season when we’re down.
Blind faith. And “getting behind the lads” ain’t gonna wash and it certainly isn’t gonna save us.
We are garbage and the owner has screwed it up with her blind faith in a DOF who’s position has been untenable for almost a year.
A week ago everyone was hailing the appointment of Darren Moore as a masterstroke. A week is obviously a long time in football.
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9 minutes ago, Stockleys_socks said:
Two games in hand. 2 very winnable home games. All is not lost folks.
I assume that those mocking this post have waved the white flag with 15 games remaining? That's resilience for you. A good job we've got a manager who believed his team could come back from 4-0 down to win the playoffs.
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Two games in hand. 2 very winnable home games. All is not lost folks.
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8 hours ago, Granville said:
All very well and good, however, both Bowers and Baggaley have said they have asked to interview him multiple times over the past week and have been left hanging, yet he miraculously appears on an in house podcast!
It smacks of avoiding the media in case he doesn't have prepared answers for questions he's seen in advance.
It also takes the sting out of anything they do now, because people won't read/listen to it because they'll assume its the same as this.
I'm all for external scrutiny whether it be fan forums or press interviews rather than a cosy in house piece where Flitcroft can control what's said and what isn't.
I also find it interesting he's stuck his head above the parapet now rather than when, as Radio Stoke and The Sentinel/Valiant have said, he was asked last week when there would have undoubtedly been far more negatives than positives.
I take it you hadn't listened to the pod at the time of writing? The questions didn't dance around the main talking points and I don't think Bowers and baggers would have asked anything different.
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5 minutes ago, robf said:
I wouldn't say hang out to dry though either.
All I am saying is IF it's an internal mistake then there should be repercussions. Those repercussions don't have to be nuclear but should be proportionate. So, yeah if it's something minor that wouldn't warrant hanging out to dry - but the flipside of that is if it is something major then they should.
But what I'm getting at is are there repercussions - because if there aren't any then there's no incentive for the club to learn from mistakes and no way for underperforming staff to improve or to be replaced.
I don't think we'll ever know (or even should) because I would imagine anything would be inhouse and not public - but I would hope there are measures in place.
On the plus side a decision was made before the end of the transfer window; fingers crossed we've got someone else lined up such as the rumour surrounding the barnsley defender.
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19 minutes ago, Shropshire_Valiant said:
Take the point re the medical, look at Uche, failed one at Charlton yet evidently deemed fit enough for us to sign and play(until he got injured Saturday obviously) but due diligence on Williams really should have been done prior to that. Lets be honest it doesn't take a genious to work out he had issues at Aberdeen and kept breaking down. At the very least as Rob says needs an internal review into what went on, even if it's no ones fault individually, collectively it doesn't show the club in a good light especially the pressure we're yet again under to make signings so late in a transfer window!
yes the uche one was very strange for him to be fully fit playing in games but fail a medical. For all we know uche might have an underlying health condition and same here with williams. Vale fans seemingly very quick to jump on the negative band wagon.
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22 minutes ago, robf said:
Absolutely. However, as I said in a previous post - surely they need to do an internal review if something was missed or a mistake made. If it wasn't and was a fluke injury or something then fair enough - but if (I'm not saying it was just if it was) it was an internal mistake there has to be appropriate measures in place as we're a professional club, we can't be carrying people if they are not up to the role.
Agree but don't think we should be hanging people out to dry either if a mistake has been made. Pretty sure the club would not want to damage the player's reputation either if indeed he was to blame in some way.
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How about we give the medical team the benefit of the doubt if we don't know the details? Could be something that wouldn't necessarily get picked up at the medical if he didn't declare it or answered a question dishonestly? Don't want to cast aspersions on the lad either but we are quick to escalate and blame Flitcroft, carol and the bar staff for something that may have been completely out of our hands.
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High pressing against teams with more technically gifted players just gives them an opportunity to pass around you; its essentially what they want us to do to create space in behind our forwards.
Maybe last night we should have set up to not press, let their centre halves pass it about and then counter attack. We were never going to match Middlesbrough at their own game.
Even when we had Uche & Loft on we didn't seem to change our plan; at the very least we should have just hit the channels and got their defenders turning but on the rare occasions we got the ball we tried to play the ball into their feet and play off them but it was all in front of the boro defenders and far too easy to pick us off.
We are a 1st team with paying spectators, who want to see us win first and foremost, not an U23 development team. There are times when the tip-tapping football needs to go out of the window.
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Summer transfer rumours and speculation
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No no no to gibbons. An average footballer with a poor injury record who has endeared himself to Vale fans because he is a local lad who likes a tackle and a fist pump to the crowd.