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2. Yeah, that was a typo on my part. So 42% of our exports and 50% of our imports become more complicated. Maybe we can replace some of that with RoW. But things like perishable goods will be very difficult to impossible. 3. As above. 4. You'd have to show how these new trade deals will make up for the current 4% hit to GDP. 5. This is not true. Germany sends EU immigrants home after 3 months if they don't have a job. We could've done the same. The EU has no say on RoW workers. We could always allow as many or as few as we wanted. 6. Could've done it anyway so not a Brexit positive. 7. 6 years in and you're still trying to sell jam tomorrow. How will the price of perishable goods go down?

Rees-Mogg was on LBC this morning. Do you know what his latest Brexit benefit is? Best one yet, I reckon.

Yeah, the list in full. Vaccine rollout. Something about Ukraine.

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Some nice shortish journeys from where I am (Surrey). Christmas fixtures could've been better.

No you haven't. Still waiting on examples for your vague points (2 to 7). I'll repeat your list, maybe it helps. 2. Decreased complexity of exporting to the RoW How does leaving EU decrease complexity of exporting to EU? Example? 3. Decreased complexity of exporting to the RoW I'm guessing you meant importing from here. Example? 4. Potential increase to GDP Larf. Yeah, right. How? 5. Increased capacity for skilled RoW workers. What has leaving the EU got to do with RoW workers? 6. Decreased complexity of working in RoW Go on then. Talk us through that. 7. Price decreases. Can we expext just price decreases or price increases as well? If so, how do they balance out?

I'm waiting on examples/details from that list of 9. Remember? Whenever you're ready.

Well, I've asked you time and time again for examples. Come on, man. Don't be coy. I've never had to do a ladder check and I'm of the opinion my vacuum cleaner is powerful enough. I guess I'm one of the lucky few. What else have you got?

So his positives for Brexit are 1000s of unknown little regulations that we can now get rid of. Things like doing a ladder check every month (his example, again). So he must think all of these together will add up to more than the 4% hit to GDP. Are you convinced by that? Cuz I'm not. I mean, really? Really? Is that it? Is that the great freedom we've now gained?

That all sounds great and everything until (6 years after the vote mind you) one of the leading 'brains' behind Brexit comes up with 'more powerful vacuum cleaners' on his list of 9 (nine) new Brexit freedoms. Unless you come up with some amazing benefit - surely you have a list of fantastic things we can do now that we've been 'unleashed' - I still only see Brexit as solving a problem that didn't really exist.

I still don't get this freedom argument. First off, it must have meant people felt constrained when we were in The EU. I didn't. Then you have to ignore the positives of working with others. It's like saying a soldier fighting on his own has more freedom and so is more effective than a whole army working together. Just daft.

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Not really, no. Just plain old democracy.

I think everyone accepts the result. Some of us would like to democratically change it.

Leading MEP😂 Yes. I lived for over 20 years in a non-EU European country. Working for businesses that imported and exported to/from The EU. Farage is a blow hard know nowt.

The grown up thing to have done was to have a detailed plan on what Brexit meant and then have a referendum on that. Still, here we are, 6 years on and still arguing about it. Great success!

I think my cat has a better knowledge of the EU than Farage.

Yeah, massive surprise for everyone, that. Completely out of the blue. Came from nowhere. I was gobsmacked when I found The EU we’re going to protect the integrity of the single market.

Laziness.Nobody on the Brexit side was prepared to put in the hard graft of how it’s actually going to work.

First point. Ha. Rubbish. Second point. Yeah, it can but it's non-reciprocal. Whose going to sign up for it? So, we could've stayed in Erasmus and done Turing anyway. Instead we're out of Erasmus and just have Turing. You see that as a Brexit bonus.

RoW+EU > RoW

Just tell me how The Turing scheme beats Erasmus. That was in your list of 9. You must have put it on there for a reason.

So that's a no, then You offered up The Turing scheme as a practical Brexit positive outcome but can't explain why. You're hopeless.

By the end of 1938 the number was around 30,000. Was that too many?