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Rob Fielding

Rob Fielding is the editor of onevalefan and has been a Port Vale FC fan since 1980. He has written about Port Vale for 30 years. Rob has worked in many roles including in sports journalism and marketing. He has written a Port Vale book “No Ordinary Season” and curated the “Vale Vaults” Port Vale memorabilia exhibition. Rob has appeared on numerous radio broadcasts and podcasts (including BBC Radio Stoke) and written for multiple publications (including submissions for the Guardian, 442 and Word Soccer) about his club. His favourite player is striker Andy Jones and his favourite match is the FA Cup win over Spurs in 1988.

12 Comments

Chris Hopkin

Rob you have laid bare the disastrous decisions made by the owners and there consequences. Decisions like hanging on to a manager long after it would have been sensible to part company have been repeated with no apparent learning from experience.
Owning and managing a software company where decisions are made in house and the driving force is maintaining the profitability of the company and keeping ahead of your competitors is very different from a football club. In my view ownership and managing a EFL football club is very different and requires additional skills not normally required in a non football business. Every thing the football club does is under the spotlight of the media and the fans who for them their team has become part of who they are and experience the emotional highs and lows generated by their club.
Every thing the club does or doesn’t say is scrutinised in the finest detail and like it or not from this comments and assumptions are made and circulated or in some cases become a news item on TV, Radio or the Press nothing of which the owners can control.
Like it or not for the owners this is a sink or swim challenge.

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Ian Mountford

The owners have a lot to answer for, while it can be thrown at them they failed to act quick enough to dismiss Moore, relegation was totally down to Darren Moore. No other manager has had the backing and support that Moore had, and he has no excuse for not delivering. As for the owners, they came into the club (which we are grateful for) promising an honest and open club. Sadly that’s something that has never materialised. Three of the most important decisions they have made was to bring in Flitcroft, Hancock and Moore into the club, and what a disaster they have all turned out to be. These decisions have almost certainly brought two relegations to the club, YET they have continued to fail to admit their mistakes. Although Flitcroft and Moore have gone at great cost to the club, HANCOCK is still there. Hancock is there to over see the running of the club, a club loosing £17million. So what does the club do to cut these losses, stop printing programmes, and have season ticket holders use the same season ticket card for 5years, and bring in a financial manager to do HANCOCK’S job. Like Flitcroft and Moore what has Hancock got to do to be held accountable. We have got the worst pitch we’ve had since the 60’s, another great and expensive decision to get rid of the well thought of Steve Speed. But yet again WHO is being held accountable? The Railway Paddock was left with no toilets, left to get in such a state they were condemned, don’t we have a stadium maintenance manager? If only the owners would speak openly to supporters and not just the nodding chosen few we might understand. The debt might just be smoke and mirrors for something else, and might not exist in the way we see it? We just don’t know. As a fan you just feel helpless and under appreciated by owners who are totally detached from the thoughts and concerns of the supporters. They can not to continue to stick their heads in a bucket of sand and think nothing is wrong!

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Lindsay Whitehouse

As always Rob, an informed and perceptive analysis. I continue to believe that there is no identity for the football side. The community side has an identity. Carol’s recent elevation to be Chancellor at Keele University is an acknowledgement of her huge community footprint.

On the football side there continues to be huge investment in the academy but with limited benefits. I have long asked what is the cost of running the academy and what is the return. Should we instead concentrate on picking up players discarded by Premier League clubs. Should we spent more time scouring non-league clubs to obtain talent. We may then get some good service from these players before selling them on for big profits.

Has the investment in corporate facilities produced the required return? Given the loss of 3 sponsors all at the same time, and the absence of a shirt sponsor (rubbish excuse about 150th) has money been wasted here? Will there be a return? Is the huge staff number realistic?

Can we continue to spend money on Vale Park, or do we need a new stadium? Why the focus on Championship ready? We will never have the gates to support ourselves at this level until there are big changes.

Spending money is a perceived as a positive, but spending money wisely is much more positive.

I still support Carol but we need to have a clear football identity and not throw money at things, we need sensible investment, not splurge spending. The future of Port Vale is at stake, these huge losses cannot be sustained and it puts the club in huge peril. We need to address it now.

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Disagree about the worst pitch since the e 60s. The pitch was poor in the 80s, ask Spurs, and frequently became very heavy in the 90s and noughties. Steve Speed was not a miracle worker.

Paulfromfenton

I agree with Lindsey, there seems to be no one behind the scenes with experience. People like Colin Garlick knew everything about football. Then the programme was stopped supposedly losing 30k a year, why then can non league clubs and most league clubs still do them? What was the reason for losing 30k a year?
The amount of staff behind the scenes is ridiculous, that’s why we are losing 5 million a year. Who is paying for the foundation and Bradeley and other schemes?
Vale fan and season ticket holder 67 years

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I can only agree with most of the comments let’s face it owning a football club is a poison chalice and a money pit and unlike running any other business so many brilliant businessmen have come a cropper. You only have to look across the city now the Coates gravy train is drying up, I cannot condemn the board for many of the things they have done and are trying to do, for those of us old enough to remember the state of the ground with only 2 poor stands and no facilities the stadium is a revelation my Dad would not recognise.
However the pitch is still awful but how come other teams can come and play on it? I and many others called for DM to go as early as October but it appeared to fall on deaf ears let’s be honest the club couldn’t afford to pay him off so they buried their head on the sand and hoped for a miracle it until they were forced into it.
We need a better scouting system scouring the lower leagues and also lower leagues abroad where young players are playing men’s football earlier than this ridiculous system of young loaners from higher league clubs who haven’t kicked a ball in men’s football turning up earning more money than half the signed players put together, then if we bring them on we can’t afford to buy them!
It’s time for honesty and communication including building bridges with the local media and supporters!

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David Brown

Owners not without criticism, but running the Vale has always been a thankless task. Even in the best of times in the second tier with Rudge, home gates only averaged 8,500 – 9,000 at best. Therein lies the biggest problem.

Ian Mountford

Having just read Lindsay Whitehouse’s post, while I agree with her views on the club’s finances, I can’t get my head around why the club needs a football identity? No clubs academy seems to bring in the financial returns as they did in the 80’s and 90’s, just look at Crewe. Vale tend to sell their better youngsters when they are quite young instead of allowing them to progress through the ranks. This could be due to financial reasons or pressure from the youngsters parents to allow them to move to the bigger clubs. As for signing released youngsters from premiership clubs. Vale would be at the end of a very long queue from a financial point of view to do this, and at the mercy of agents. The suggestion that Vale become a club who just pick the best out of non league football and sell them on, that’s easier said than done. It’s taken Vale 50or60years to my knowledge, to find just Horton, Jones, Taylor and Tolay. 3 of those were signed by JR, showing just how difficult it can be. It’s ridiculous to say a club needs an identity and put all your eggs in one basket, and no successful club can rely on just one of these options. The only identity I want for my football team is, to be successful, regardless from where the players come from

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I see that Carol has been appointed to Chancellor at Keele University….one of whose roles is to provide ” guidance,support and direction to the Vice Chancellor and management team”….it would appear that the decision makers at Keele have not followed her track record at running Port Vale ! Is their relegation in the University sector ?

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