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19 minutes ago, Properman said:
Sorry thinking of Fleetwood away.
They were were only a few weeks apart and away was even worse!
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7 minutes ago, Properman said:
Moore was not the manager then, still Crosby
Moore was named new boss on 13th Feb. We played Fleetwood at home on the 27th Feb.
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30 minutes ago, andy jones said:
Sorry can't agree with that.
We failed to win in goodness knows how many games when DC came in. We were saying where's the new Manager bounce.
In fact the first win under DC wasn't until the match after Andy Crosby joined the club.
So perhaps it's AC we should thank for ending the long wait for a win when DC became Manager?
And given we couldn't buy a win or even hold onto a winning position after DM's appointment before DM's backroom staff arrived perhaps we should be thanking them for the upturn in form? DM was a bit too experimental in his first few games; the Fleetwood game where we were 2 up and then a triple substitution early in the 2nd half led to clinging on for a draw springs to mind. However just a draw tonight would be a massive result.
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3 hours ago, Hot Rat said:
My question too - they are not available online but there's no hint that its sold out?
As usual I fell foul of the vague pathway that enables purchase of tickets online which requires you to click on the picture to access the seating plan - I have just bought two and there are about 50 left. The shop have also advised that Wigan are supposed to be sending tickets for another block.
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15 hours ago, Andy Proctor said:
Can you actually buy Wigan tickets at vale or are they unavailable, sold out or you can buy them but not able collect them?
My question too - they are not available online but there's no hint that its sold out?
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2 hours ago, Spunk Trumpet said:
Errrrr. Yes.
Are you some sort of snowflake?I can say what I want. If you’re offended that’s your fault.
You can say what you want. If I or others are offended then that’s our fault.
Stoke are <ovf censored>. Can’t stand them.
That Lizzo bird is a fat <ovf censored>.
Sunaks a piece of scum.
That disabled comedienne chaff is awful.
I could go on.
It’s called freedom of speech.
I can say what I want.
Too many snowflakes in todays society have been brainwashed.Feedom of speech doesn't mean freedom to be offensive.
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48 minutes ago, Packmoor_vale said:
Which stand did the booing come from?
I was in the hamil towards the back and was expecting it but never heard itThere was also a few loft will tear u apart songs that a few tried to get going
There was some booing/groans/grunts from the Railway Stand but some cheers too (possibly ironic but also possibly like me trying to drown out the negative Railway contingent). However there was also a brief chant of "Andy Crosbys Black & White Army!" after our third goal which at first I thought might be ironic but on reflection was probably euphoric... Full credit to all those in voice in the Railway Stand though as the atmosphere was much better than it has been. Their taunting of the Hamil Stand to stand up and sing was brilliant.
Full credit to AC and the lads for continuing in the same vein as the second half against Barnsley. Clearly the tactics and team shape against Barnsley in the 2nd half was the difference, and not Barnsley's substitutes as some would have us believe. Admittedly Blackpool were not as clinical as Barnsley when they had opportunities but perhaps that can be put down to our defence and the hard work of our wing backs, particularly Shorrock who as well as showing his speed in attack also made some fantastic covering runs (he was was my MOTM at half time).
We may be saying farewell to the inspirational Arblaster but there's obviously some super talent coming through the development squad. Granted these young players were probably at the club before the appointment of David Flitcroft and the backroom staff he and Carol have bought in, but, it is the system and backroom staff he and Carol have bought in that is bringing the best out of these young players and that should not be forgotten when the first team are misfiring and questions are being asked about striker recruitment.
Here's to 2024, steady ascent of the league. UTV.
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5 hours ago, Devine intervention said:
I cannot find the league games lost this century statistic on the football rates site although I quickly count a total of 420 losses between 2001-23 from the tabulated PV results. Whichever way its viewed, using league matches lost this century as a barometer of current form and crowd participation is bad use of statistics. I prefer this more optimistic statistic from actual football rates site.
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3 hours ago, Paul6754 said:
Agree to some extent but doesn't possession based football lead to a slowing down of the game?
The game becomes a bit cat and mousy then a restart by passing it backwards to retain possession.
I've stopped watching EPL stuff for these reasons but Vale and England are an exception.
Agreed, it can as the team in control of possession dictates the pace of the game - but if they are a good enough they can speed it up at the drop of a hat. The fact that we can only up the pace successfully one in 5 games is probably more indicative of the quality of the players in league 1. Premier league players can produce the goods more consistently hence cost more.
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24 minutes ago, Paul6754 said:
When Tom Pope lead the attack Vale were more direct and the terms 'Hoof ball and Pope ball" were coined, there was a section of Vale fans on OVF who were dissatisfied with how Vale played.
Crosby has introduced a more possession based approach and still a section of OVF fans are unhappy.
What do Vale fans want in terms of playing style? I suspect something that doesn't exist especially at Lge 1 level.
For me good results are key and I couldn't give a damn how we play.
I think the problem isn't the possession based football, its the pace of the game. We played pacey possession based football with a high press against Wigan and the result was very entertaining. Unfortunately when we take our foot off the gas the same system looks ponderous.
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3 hours ago, WV said:
He was sold because his wage was above the new wage limit Carol imposed for strikers. Not because he wanted to go.
More likely MK Dons came in with an offer that couldn't be refused as it represented a means of improving cash flow and freeing up a wage for a player more suited to the "system". I wasn't too chuffed we let Harrison go, but cash flow is king and I think Uche will prove to be a good alternative once he's lost a few kg.
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39 minutes ago, Shropshire_Valiant said:
I don't disagree, I'm not a Flitcroft hater/basher, I think by enlarge he's done a decent job, I was more making the point that however we dress it up the forward recruitment has fallen short in league one so far(whether that's for a reason(budget, bad luck with injuries) ultimately won't matter if we get relegated as we'll lose more money in the long run) but it saw us collapse last season and we are now in a similar position to when Clarke was sacked 6-9 months ago, nervously looking over our shoulder at the wrong end of the table so something isn't going well in that department.
Would we say most teams in league one have bigger budgets than us? I'd say Vale are about avg all things considered. I've always said if we can't compete with the likes of Shrewsbury, Cambridge, Exeter et al(I could probably name half the league) in terms of potential new signings we may as well throw the towel in at this level. Obviously there are many different variables as some teams will overspend(Fleetwood maybe an example of that based on their fanbase) but then you get others like Reading who have a good fanbase but are in the fertiliser currently due to mismanagement off the pitch it would seem.
Its likely that the cost of forward recruitment was hampered by the need to remediate the pitch during the summer. I'm no QS or expert on sport turf surfacing but based on my own experience in civil engineering the cost of plant and aggregate, not to mention specialist consultant expertise would probably have run into several hundreds of thousands. This outlay has probably impacted player budget and has placed over-emphasis upon the loan market, trainees and to a slight degree our consequent style of play. Success in the cup could be fundamental to available budget in January to strengthen the squad so we all need to get behind the team.
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42 minutes ago, Guitar Ray said:
Just revisiting this topic, how is it that I can read several up to date reports from yesterday in Stevenages local rag yet nothing in our own. No disrespect to Baggers, and I hope his venture pays the bills, but the whole advertising excuse for lack of coverage trotted out by Marc Waddington in the Q&A at the bottom of the article is quite clearly claptrap. If they can justify printing an article on Leek CC signing the former Moddershall captain there should be no problem knocking out a Vale match report as a bare minimum.
Quite agree Ray. Not sure where local and more importantly, balanced news is going when one of the local football teams doesn't merit even match coverage unless the supporters are prepared to pay per view and nobody else in the City is even aware whether they are successful or not. What's next, pay per view reporting on local elections depending upon your political bias? Its a very slippery slope.
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Cambridge (H) Match Thread - 27th April
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Me and our kid too. Doh.