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  1. #133
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    Can we stop this ridiculous, you're a racist, no you're a racist crap and get back to the actually thread topic, which is the resignation of the Prime Minister, and consider who should replace her?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacko51 View Post
    Can we stop this ridiculous, you're a racist, no you're a racist crap and get back to the actually thread topic, which is the resignation of the Prime Minister, and consider who should replace her?
    None of the above.

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    I can't wait for the regeneration. Hoping for whoever can tear the tories apart and cause as much damage to the party as possible. Obviously got a lot to live up to after the previous two abominations, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed for Leadsom or Johnson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacko51 View Post
    Can we stop this ridiculous, you're a racist, no you're a racist crap and get back to the actually thread topic, which is the resignation of the Prime Minister, and consider who should replace her?
    That was going on in the Brexit thread...

    Quote Originally Posted by Warren View Post
    I get to vote in the election of the new Tory Leader. I am concerned about what I will be left to vote for in the MP's reducing the choice to two. So, given normal circumstances I would probably favour someone like Michael Gove. I think he has learned lessons from being in government and having some failure. He also stuck at it, trying to influence from the inside whilst the Maybot took wrong path after wrong path.

    But he ain't going to cut it. The Conservatives face an existential threat, which may already be beyond recovery. Maybe Labour do as well from the Lib Dems. So it has to be Boris, a political beast who will step on the national stage and say and do stuff decisively. In particular he will stop playing nice with Corbyn and focus properly on this guy's nasty history and Marxist in a suit persona. The Maybot couldn't even manage that open goal in a general election she called coming up with the worst manifesto and worst leadership of a campaign ever.

    Boris will need to call and win a general election. That is where we are at. He probably needs a year to do that which means withdraw Article 50 and reset to leave via no deal but when all preparation has been made. In my view. I am sad about the Northern Island border situation, it is really serious and maybe insurmountable if the peace treaty is worded in such a way it can't be negotiated. But what can't happen is doing the same.
    Quote Originally Posted by Heatwave View Post
    Making a lot of assumptions there aren't we?

    The declared front runner in leadership elections rarely wins. I fully expect Boris to come to grief - probably by some ill considered comment, after all he has history for it as a lady currently in prison in Iran will testify.

    The Tory party will look into the abyss and realise the folly of letting Boris Johnson anywhere near the party leadership and the Prime Minister's office.
    Quote Originally Posted by mr.hobblesworth View Post
    I know I'm biased but I don't think that washed with the public any more. When JC was first elected as leader, the first statement made by a tory (Fallon IIRC) was about how he was a threat to national security. That seems to be the main line of attack since and I don't think it's hurt him very much at all. The 'magic money tree' line was much more effective but now Labour can easily counter that with the extra cash the DUP were provided with to shore up May. Any election campaign, (especially if it happens once Brexit has been resolved (and **** knows how that's going to happen)), will IMO be fought on the conservatives record vs Labour 'economic irresponsibility' and I think we'll rip you a new one :) I also think green issues will be to the fore and that seems to be something Corbyn's Labour will be much stronger on. I'd also like to see Labour go in promising electoral reform and lowering the age of voting to 16, thus locking the tories out for generations.

    I also think Boris Johnson would be disastrous for the tories and very much hope he gets in. Unfortunately, I doubt he'll get in to the final two.
    Quote Originally Posted by geosname View Post
    If a GE is called quickly and Labour fight on economics they will lose it.... it will play it's part but I doubt it will be the HOT topic.
    Boris is a distraction, the loss leader if you will.
    I think the voting age should be increased not decreased.... but it won't happen.
    The two party system will crack but linger on for a while yet.
    Quote Originally Posted by Heatwave View Post
    I think it would take major defections from both parties to Change UK/Lib Dems to make any kind of impact electorally. It would also need Heidi Allen and Vince Cable to merge their parties or have some sort of electoral pact. Only then, if they won an election, could they get the legislation through for proportional representation that would be the death knell for the two party system.

    A big ask on all counts which is why it's not going to happen any time soon.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSage View Post
    I think the centre parties will merge at some point or form a loose alliance as at present we have a very left of centre Labour Party and might end up with a hard right Tory Party, with slippery Farage possibly in the background for a while.
    In these circumstances it makes sense for politicians of moderate persuasion of all colours to coalesce towards the middle.
    I'd like that to happen but I'm not holding my breath in the immediate term.

    Looks like another interesting few months ahead. Johnson might be the antidote the Tories want to cure the Farage problem but he won't appeal to traditional, one nation Tories because he's too extreme and shoots from the hip in a silly immature manner. The Tories have as many Remainers and all other parties.
    But if they go for a more moderate leader like a Stewart they risk losing out to Farage.
    It's a dilemma that May could not solve and won't go away easily because of the numbers in the Commons where, like it or not, the majority are for remaining or a Soft Deal.

    If Labour had a more moderate leader they'd walk the next election.
    Quote Originally Posted by mr.hobblesworth View Post
    Why didn't we win under Ed then?

    Labour's policies under Corbyn are constantly referred to as extreme or outlandish but they're nothing of the sort, and are the norm in parts of Europe and Scandinavia. Indeed, it's these 'extreme' policies that are galvanising and enthusing so many younger and previously disenfranchised voters. Neo-liberalism is a busted flush, one that the media and the old guard are desperate to keep in play; hence the vilification of Labour from the establishment. However, especially with the increasingly terrifying environmental disaster lurking around the corner, we need Corbyn's Labour more than ever.

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    My apologies folks.

    But Jacko is right.
    There is some rubbish on this thread and an awful lot of infantile, crass comments that makes discussion and debate nigh on impossible.

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    Which is why I've disengaged and hope that puts an end to any bickering. OK?

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    Regal Beagle and mr hobblesworth you both keep promising to cease your personal vendetta, please do so it is becoming tedious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fosse69 View Post
    Regal Beagle and mr hobblesworth you both keep promising to cease your personal vendetta, please do so it is becoming tedious.
    There's no need to say that, I've already posted twice in the last hour or so to say I'm going to do just that. I've already tried to bring the thread back on topic but it keeps getting derailed by people complaining about it getting derailed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howjy04 View Post
    Rory would get my vote.
    FAO Jacko.Centre ground politician.Maybe a bit inexperienced but one for the future.

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    AS pointed out the thread is the replacement of Mrs May.

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    FT recons Boris likely to settle for a second referendum after the EU don't budge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howjy04 View Post
    FAO Jacko.Centre ground politician.Maybe a bit inexperienced but one for the future.
    Rory Stewart and Michael Gove are the two most intelligent candidates. Stewart was excellent on Radio 4 this morning - very clear and honest in his answers. Might be a bit early for him? I dislike Gove but he has been spoken well of by his civil servants as a man who gets things done. I don't want Leadsom (she's a mum you know) and I may leave the country if Johnson wins.

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