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    Quote Originally Posted by RailwayRowdy View Post
    I hear what you say Melv.

    But my understanding of the rules of the competition are that all Geeed Is Good and EFL clubs HAVE to compete. Most PL clubs would not enter if they had a choice, hence their weakened sides.

    But, the sheep mentality thereby follows when virtually every league club competing does the same thing.

    We now see clubs reducing prices like you would for a pre season friendly, but still fans wonít go to the games in the numbers they used to. Why ? Because even fans now see it as a second rate competition. And thatís a shame.

    And all thanks to a Knight Of The Realm in the shape of the Cheshire Cat that is Sir Alex Bloody Ferguson.
    The FA CUP winners qualifying for the Champions League ,instead of the fourth placed finisher in the Prem,may put the competition back to its former level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RailwayRowdy View Post
    I hear what you say Melv.

    But my understanding of the rules of the competition are that all Geeed Is Good and EFL clubs HAVE to compete. Most PL clubs would not enter if they had a choice, hence their weakened sides.

    But, the sheep mentality thereby follows when virtually every league club competing does the same thing.

    We now see clubs reducing prices like you would for a pre season friendly, but still fans won’t go to the games in the numbers they used to. Why ? Because even fans now see it as a second rate competition. And that’s a shame.

    And all thanks to a Knight Of The Realm in the shape of the Cheshire Cat that is Sir Alex Bloody Ferguson.
    Changing kick-off times to 12.30 hasn't helped the competition either.Only 10 of the 32 games kicked off on the Saturday at 3pm.

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    Wink

    Weakened teams, shafted kick-off times, semi's at Wembley, marginalisation of the Cup by the FA, negligible coverage by some newspapers and TV channels, the 10-day rule for replays.....stick all that together and that's why the FA Cup is crap now.

    When we lost to Enfield and when we beat Spurs, it was national news and back-page headlines the day after both games. Now any Cup upset gets a short mention, especially if there's a game of global interest taking place in the Premier League (Bournemouth v Watford for example ).
    Last edited by smithie; 08-01-19 at 06:40 PM.

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    The number of changes made for FA Cup games,especially by PL teams needs to be controlled but I doubt that the FA have the ***** to do anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howjy04 View Post
    The FA CUP winners qualifying for the Champions League ,instead of the fourth placed finisher in the Prem,may put the competition back to its former level.
    Spot on, great idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howjy04 View Post
    The FA CUP winners qualifying for the Champions League ,instead of the fourth placed finisher in the Prem,may put the competition back to its former level.
    But call it the European Cup, since it is not restricted to Champions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howjy04 View Post
    The FA CUP winners qualifying for the Champions League ,instead of the fourth placed finisher in the Prem,may put the competition back to its former level.
    In theory Howjy that sounds a good idea.

    However, in the 26 FA Cup competitions since the formation of the Greed Is Good League, the winners and times they have won it is as follows,

    Arsenal(8), Chelsea(7), Utd(5), Liverpool(2), Citeh(1), Everton(1), Portsmouth(1), Wigan(1)

    So what’s my point ? Well my point is quite simple.

    Apart from Everton, Wigan and Portsmouth, all the winners are teams who are already in the mix to qualify for the Champions League through league position automatically, so qualifying for the Champions League by winning the FA Cup would only have made a difference in 3 out of 26 occasions !

    The worrying thing about these stats is that even with reserve, or at least extremely weakened teams, the big boys who don’t even give a toss, still win it anyway !

    Arsenal, Chelsea & Utd have won 20 out 26 tournaments ! And this is supposedly the trophy that “anyone” can win !

    Staggering. Quite staggering !
    Last edited by RailwayRowdy; 08-01-19 at 10:25 PM.

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    A look at the last 26 FA Cup winners prior to the Premier League makes interesting reading by comparison.

    Liverpool(4), Spurs(4), Utd(4), WHU(2), Arsenal(2), & WBA, Citeh, Chelsea, Leeds, Sunderland, Southampton, Ipswich, Everton, Coventry and Wimbledon all one apiece.

    So in the 26 year Premier League era, we have had only 8 different FA Cup winners, but in the last 26 years of the old system we had 15.

    Interesting.
    Last edited by RailwayRowdy; 08-01-19 at 11:13 PM.

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