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    I can understand clubs still taking chances on players like Miller in the hope he can get them goals, but how many chances should they have?

    Looking at his record and although hes scored virutally 1 in 2, hes only been playing at league one level since last season. Maybe conderence to league one was too much of a jump and he'll find league two more his level.

    But hes a gamble, not only for his off the field problems but also him actually being able to make a league career for himself. I would hazard a guess that its a gamble clubs can weight in our favour because he is in the last chance saloon. One year deal, mess about and you're out.

    I find it frustrating when players like this seem determined to let the chance of a lifetime slip through their fingers. They don't realise how lucky they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PV1973 View Post
    I can understand clubs still taking chances on players like Miller in the hope he can get them goals, but how many chances should they have?

    Looking at his record and although hes scored virutally 1 in 2, hes only been playing at league one level since last season. Maybe conderence to league one was too much of a jump and he'll find league two more his level.

    But hes a gamble, not only for his off the field problems but also him actually being able to make a league career for himself. I would hazard a guess that its a gamble clubs can weight in our favour because he is in the last chance saloon. One year deal, mess about and you're out.

    I find it frustrating when players like this seem determined to let the chance of a lifetime slip through their fingers. They don't realise how lucky they are.
    If Miller was a free agent, I wouldn’t be adverse to giving him a 6 month contract so as to prove his worth or otherwise.

    But, as a fee is reportedly involved, his signing is unlikely to be short term. Therefore if we have a Chris Regis scenario with Miller, we will lose out on two scores. A) The transfer fee itself & B) A player on a longer contract who we ultimately may want out of the club.

    The whole scenario looks to me to be fraught with danger and a risk not worth taking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RailwayRowdy View Post
    If Miller was a free agent, I wouldn’t be adverse to giving him a 6 month contract so as to prove his worth or otherwise.

    But, as a fee is reportedly involved, his signing is unlikely to be short term. Therefore if we have a Chris Regis scenario with Miller, we will lose out on two scores. A) The transfer fee itself & B) A player on a longer contract who we ultimately may want out of the club.

    The whole scenario looks to me to be fraught with danger and a risk not worth taking.
    If we're going to offer him a long term contract and pay a fee then I agree its a risk.

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    Signing any player is a calculated risk, of course, whether it be Van Der Laan’s fiery temper, Peter Swan’s knee, Alex Williams’ back, Gary Roberts’ addictions, or something as silly as John Jeffers’ inability to spot a passing opportunity.

    While Miller’s would be a high risk opportunity I’m not totally opposed to it. Maybe this is his last shot at redemption, maybe we’d benefit from that. So much depends on the support he has around him, though my guess is he would be quite isolated in N.Staffs.

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    Agreed. I also think that people aren't crediting Aspin and Rudge with the intelligence to realise this could be a risk and to draw up an appropriate contract.

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    Port vale , aldershot , Dover , Lincoln I honestly don’t care I just want promotion , playoffs , Wembley trips and goals lots of them ⚽️

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    That is a tweet off Miller so looks like he is trying to move on. His family live in Fleet, Hampshire . As Marmaduke rightly said he could find it difficult family wise.
    12 months ago we would of been salivating at such a signing. Now he is dividing opinion including my own.
    As i posted on the Mansfield match day thread he was actually in the pub before the game , didn't know until pointed out by Mansfield fan i was chatting to. Now to me if you are on loan at a club and looking maybe to sign then shouldn't you be with your team mates at the ground rather than the boozer ? Or is it just me .

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    Quote Originally Posted by darren1810 View Post
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    That is a tweet off Miller so looks like he is trying to move on. His family live in Fleet, Hampshire . As Marmaduke rightly said he could find it difficult family wise.
    12 months ago we would of been salivating at such a signing. Now he is dividing opinion including my own.
    As i posted on the Mansfield match day thread he was actually in the pub before the game , didn't know until pointed out by Mansfield fan i was chatting to. Now to me if you are on loan at a club and looking maybe to sign then shouldn't you be with your team mates at the ground rather than the boozer ? Or is it just me .
    Sounds like Bernie Wright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smithie View Post
    Sounds like Bernie Wright.
    Or Bob Newton !

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    I’ve thought about this some more.

    I don’t want it to appear like I’m being unfair on the guy. We all know he’s screwed up several times and it would be a heartwarming story if he can sort himself out and even one day go on to help others who’re in a similar pickle.

    That said, his courtroom tears, and now the tweet... it sounds like he’s all over the bleedin’ place. Or to put it another way he’s still got a long way to go to get through the seven stages of grief.

    I haven’t the first clue how much influence his family have over him, but if he were my son I’d want him close, for everyone’s sake. Moving to Staffs seems a terrible idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PV1973 View Post
    I can understand clubs still taking chances on players like Miller in the hope he can get them goals, but how many chances should they have?

    Looking at his record and although hes scored virutally 1 in 2, hes only been playing at league one level since last season. Maybe conderence to league one was too much of a jump and he'll find league two more his level.

    But hes a gamble, not only for his off the field problems but also him actually being able to make a league career for himself. I would hazard a guess that its a gamble clubs can weight in our favour because he is in the last chance saloon. One year deal, mess about and you're out.

    I find it frustrating when players like this seem determined to let the chance of a lifetime slip through their fingers. They don't realise how lucky they are.
    Trouble is that pissheads don't think like us ordinary mortals they fit or try to fit everything in around their drinking habits as with druggies the first thing is the fix whether it be booze crack spice monkey dust or whatever not the ideal personage to liven the dressing room up.

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