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15 minutes ago, The man in the pub said:

Unfortunately Jacko the idiots are representative of our society. The bigger the crowd the more idiots . Had great satisfaction singing my heart out from the stands, understand the emotion of wanting to surge onto the pitch but no more. 

That Harry Mckirdy song could catch on.

Mc Kirdy is a grade A knob.  His comments on social media before the game and his attempts to wind up our crowd were childish beyond belief.  No excuse for what happened at the end but if you can't take it you shouldn't dish it out.

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14 minutes ago, The man in the pub said:

Unfortunately Jacko the idiots are representative of our society. The bigger the crowd the more idiots . Had great satisfaction singing my heart out from the stands, understand the emotion of wanting to surge onto the pitch but no more. 

That Harry Mckirdy song could catch on.

I think there's more to it.  Everyone has a responsibility here, including Swindon.  The way McKirdy deliberately winds up and provokes opposition fans and players alike is quite evil.  He should not be surprised if it provokes a reaction.  You reap what you sow.

Maybe Swindon should accept some responsibility for their players and do something about it. 

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1 hour ago, Warren said:

I don't see it this way. The club is not ready for crowds of that size and there were really serious issues last night. 

As we approached the Lorne Street stand just after the Swindon bus and before the statue we came across a Swindon supporter who was unconscious on the floor after having been beaten up by Port Vale thugs. Some of his friends were also covered in blood. My son who is a an A&E doctor attended to the victim and was satisfied he was responsive before handing him over to the ambulance staff. 

Obviously later at the end of the match 1000s of Port Vale supporters broke the law, entered the pitch, and some attacked the Swindon players. There was therefore at least two serious security incidents. 

I'm afraid as a club we are now clocking up incident after incident at games during the season where visiting supporters or in this case a team are set upon and attacked. 

So basically, I think severe punishment is needed such as being disqualified from the playoffs or thrown out of the league. 

Some very serious accusations in this post

Did you report the assault? You'd be considered a witness. What time did it happen? 

In addition; which games have visiting supporters been set upon and attacked? Again, a very serious accusation. 

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6 minutes ago, The French Connection said:

I think there's more to it.  Everyone has a responsibility here, including Swindon.  The way McKirdy deliberately winds up and provokes opposition fans and players alike is quite evil.  He should not be surprised if it provokes a reaction.  You reap what you sow.

Maybe Swindon should accept some responsibility for their players and do something about it. 

Just reading on BBC Sports, the catalogue of incidents over the last few days.  The Vale's was by no means the worst.  It would be most unfair for the Vale to be picked out for treatment and not the other clubs. 

Pitch invasion trouble

Here's a reminder of what's happened this week following pitch invasions following Premier League and play-off matches:

 

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Vale will need to review their security plans last night because there were clearly issues but I agree they are not alone here and all clubs must accept their punishments whatever they are.

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2 hours ago, Warren said:

I don't see it this way. The club is not ready for crowds of that size and there were really serious issues last night. 

As we approached the Lorne Street stand just after the Swindon bus and before the statue we came across a Swindon supporter who was unconscious on the floor after having been beaten up by Port Vale thugs. Some of his friends were also covered in blood. My son who is a an A&E doctor attended to the victim and was satisfied he was responsive before handing him over to the ambulance staff. 

Obviously later at the end of the match 1000s of Port Vale supporters broke the law, entered the pitch, and some attacked the Swindon players. There was therefore at least two serious security incidents. 

I'm afraid as a club we are now clocking up incident after incident at games during the season where visiting supporters or in this case a team are set upon and attacked. 

So basically, I think severe punishment is needed such as being disqualified from the playoffs or thrown out of the league. 

The bad was very bad but the yob fans need prison and punishment, not the club or actual fans. 

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1 hour ago, The French Connection said:

I think there's more to it.  Everyone has a responsibility here, including Swindon.  The way McKirdy deliberately winds up and provokes opposition fans and players alike is quite evil.  He should not be surprised if it provokes a reaction.  You reap what you sow.

Maybe Swindon should accept some responsibility for their players and do something about it. 

Mckirdy is a arse, but the actions of some Vale fans is unacceptable. These people are tarnishing our great club, a club whose owners are trying to make family friendly, you cannot sweep it under the carpet we need rid of these idiots.

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1 hour ago, The French Connection said:

Just reading on BBC Sports, the catalogue of incidents over the last few days.  The Vale's was by no means the worst.  It would be most unfair for the Vale to be picked out for treatment and not the other clubs. 

Pitch invasion trouble

Here's a reminder of what's happened this week following pitch invasions following Premier League and play-off matches:

 

Agreed. We are going back to the bad old Tory Britain Thatcher era. Everyone is skint, peeved off and want to get a bit of aggro. I don’t excuse it, but things are desperate for so many who are unhappy. 

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I went onto the pitch. I sang The Wonder of You. I cried with my mates. I hugged and kissed people I've never met before in my life. I never went near a Swindon player or their fans. Put me in jail officer, I confess to my crimes.

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11 hours ago, fuzzyvalefan said:

Bloody brilliant I agree. My nephew came along who is a Man City fan and he was seriously impressed.

He should have been in the away end if he’s a Man City fan, that’s who we were playing.........

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1 hour ago, Jacko51 said:

Vale will need to review their security plans last night because there were clearly issues but I agree they are not alone here and all clubs must accept their punishments whatever they are.

The stewards were the only ones who let more people through than Conroy.

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4 hours ago, Jacko51 said:

It’s so disappointing that the fabulous night was spoilt by that dreadful behaviour at the end. That has become the story now in the media rather than the superb performance by the players. It was shameful and the club will suffer financially and in terms of how we are seen by other fans. I really do wonder if these idiots have anything at all between their ears. 

I highly doubt other fans will be sat thinking that all Vale fans are yobs, just like I don’t think all Forest fans should be tarnished. Just as in wider life, the crowds are filled with people who have a brain that could power a city, sitting next to people who not only have no lights on upstairs, but no wiring at all.

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Not trying to excuse violence but Harry McKirdy winds up opposition fans on a weekly basis. He made a post on Instagram before the first leg referring to Vale as 'pigs' and then proceeded to celebrate right in front of our supporters. This is one of many cases this season and it does spark a reaction from people. I'm not saying it's right.

Every club has a bad bunch and Swindon Town is no exception. They ripped up seats in the Bycars and threw flares and bottles onto the pitch at the end but I know that the majority of the supporters in the away end just wanted to cheer on their team and enjoy a play-off semi final second leg. 

The actions of a few thugs and so called 'fans' will have unfortunately damaged our club's reputation last night. Real Vale fans are affected as a result. Multiple flares were set of after Wilson's goal in the Railway last night and one was thrown and landed in the middle row. One older gentlemen nearly had an asthma attack before it was eventually removed by fellow supporters.

It was a minority of people who decided to try and attack Swindon players and supporters. It has happened far too often in English football recently and not just this week. The Euro final last year springs to mind.

There was nearly 10,000 Vale fans and the majority behaved and just wanted to celebrate reaching the new Wembley for the first time in our history. It was a fantastic occasion and the best night we've had at Vale Park in well over a decade. UTV

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Yes I know what I said about punishment of the club re crowd trouble / fan thugs is severe. I did it to pitch the level of seriousness of this issue at a high level. Its only a few weeks ago that away supporters needed escorting to the station with a police cordon. I actually think where this is going nationally will be requirement to give verified ID with photo to obtain tickets. Then the 1000s on the pitch etc. can be retrospectively prosecuted and banned. 

Re the assault on the fan(s) we came across, the Vale security were in attendance and able to inform the police. One hopes, given this was pretty much outside the club's main entrance in Lorne Street stand, CCTV caught it.

Having had a fractured skull from a football playing accident, I know what I saw of the fan injured and unconscious could be very serious including ending up deceased and leading to a murder enquiry. 

There is no rationalisation of this. Port Vale has a major fan behaviour problem. I wouldn't put it as bad as 1970s / 1980s football but nonetheless bad. 

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41 minutes ago, FeedThePope9 said:

Not trying to excuse violence but Harry McKirdy winds up opposition fans on a weekly basis. He made a post on Instagram before the first leg referring to Vale as 'pigs' and then proceeded to celebrate right in front of our supporters. This is one of many cases this season and it does spark a reaction from people. I'm not saying it's right.

Every club has a bad bunch and Swindon Town is no exception. They ripped up seats in the Bycars and threw flares and bottles onto the pitch at the end but I know that the majority of the supporters in the away end just wanted to cheer on their team and enjoy a play-off semi final second leg. 

The actions of a few thugs and so called 'fans' will have unfortunately damaged our club's reputation last night. Real Vale fans are affected as a result. Multiple flares were set of after Wilson's goal in the Railway last night and one was thrown and landed in the middle row. One older gentlemen nearly had an asthma attack before it was eventually removed by fellow supporters.

It was a minority of people who decided to try and attack Swindon players and supporters. It has happened far too often in English football recently and not just this week. The Euro final last year springs to mind.

There was nearly 10,000 Vale fans and the majority behaved and just wanted to celebrate reaching the new Wembley for the first time in our history. It was a fantastic occasion and the best night we've had at Vale Park in well over a decade. UTV

It was a fantastic atmosphere and a brilliant night and shouldn’t be overshadowed by a few idiots at the end of the day none of the swindie players were hurt let’s move on and get ready for Wembley 

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I don't think banning the club is the answer, I don't think simply banning the offending supporters is the answer either. 

If there is a fight on a bus should we ban buses?

Hit the offenders.

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59 minutes ago, Warren said:

Yes I know what I said about punishment of the club re crowd trouble / fan thugs is severe. I did it to pitch the level of seriousness of this issue at a high level. Its only a few weeks ago that away supporters needed escorting to the station with a police cordon. I actually think where this is going nationally will be requirement to give verified ID with photo to obtain tickets. Then the 1000s on the pitch etc. can be retrospectively prosecuted and banned. 

Re the assault on the fan(s) we came across, the Vale security were in attendance and able to inform the police. One hopes, given this was pretty much outside the club's main entrance in Lorne Street stand, CCTV caught it.

Having had a fractured skull from a football playing accident, I know what I saw of the fan injured and unconscious could be very serious including ending up deceased and leading to a murder enquiry. 

There is no rationalisation of this. Port Vale has a major fan behaviour problem. I wouldn't put it as bad as 1970s / 1980s football but nonetheless bad. 

What the hell you wittering on about mate FFS

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