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10 hours ago, TJHValiant said:

Agreed. Every non league “rough diamond” we signed in league 2 was not good enough, let alone for league 1. 

"Rough diamond" Jordan Hugill, signed from a pub team, went on to play in the PL. 

I don't think it's a wise policy to rely on rough diamonds certainly but I don't think you have a blanket view like that. 

There have been plenty of non-league players who have reached the heights - look at Peterborough's recruitment for instance:

There may be the odd one worth a look at - who may or may not work out. As long as you are not relying on those rough diamonds making the grade and also have a core of experienced players to rely on, I think you can afford to make the odd gamble. 

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5 minutes ago, philpvfc said:

Didn’t work so well for Peterborough last season.

That's a bit picky. It has taken them to the Championship and generated millions in revenue.

Arguably their relegation last season is more due to the disparity down to the huge parachute payments clubs can spend rather than the policy failing. 

Having said all that, I'm not advocating an "all or nothing" invest in non-league talent approach - just to not drop it entirely as there may still be the odd gem out there. I was simply referring to Peterborough as a club who has managed to find such players. 

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2 hours ago, darren1810 said:

Amazing how people see things differently which is why we love the game.

My opinion is he's a carthorse. Was disappointed he wasn't in the Mansfield team at Wembley as he is a huge weak link. Obviously was irrelevant as we stuffed them anyway. He'll be cheap and cheerful which is why Morecambe have taken him. 

He might have been a better behaved centre half than the one that played and got sent off with two really stupid pointless offences! But I guess two poor players just stay poor and increase the crapness of your squad overall!  

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16 minutes ago, BossThatGarrityLaaa said:

They are currently doing the bleep test, far side of pitch so can’t see if any new faces as yet.

Only 13 players involved in the training.

New training gear is an Olive Green colour.

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The second player from the left looks bald but pretty sure it's Hussey. That's our new player Ojo third player in from the left I think and Cass maybe second from the right.

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1 hour ago, robf said:

"Rough diamond" Jordan Hugill, signed from a pub team, went on to play in the PL. 

I don't think it's a wise policy to rely on rough diamonds certainly but I don't think you have a blanket view like that. 

There have been plenty of non-league players who have reached the heights - look at Peterborough's recruitment for instance:

There may be the odd one worth a look at - who may or may not work out. As long as you are not relying on those rough diamonds making the grade and also have a core of experienced players to rely on, I think you can afford to make the odd gamble. 

Always remember Chasetown. 

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8 minutes ago, Warren said:

Always remember Chasetown. 

I do - it was fourteen years ago under a different manager and owners. 

I mean if you want to go back into the past and different times - Andy Jones, Ian Taylor, Stewart Talbot, Gareth Griffiths... but I would say they are not relevant now either as that was also a long time ago.

If you want to pick a more recent example - our current player of the year was playing for Warrington Town two years ago until Blackpool took a punt. Not every one will work out but there are still examples (such as Garrity) of ones that do.

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4 hours ago, gavcradd said:

60 points is a solidly mid-table finish, not just staying up 😐

It would have got us to 12th last year and then there is a gap to bridge above that which would require competing with the big clubs effectively. But we have to keep an eye on the trap down of 4 down rather than 3 and more contingency is needed to stay away comfortably from that. 40-50 points is playing with danger and also if it transpires there are say 2 teams cut adrift who are gifting points to others in the division then 3rd and 4th bottom get closer to mid table. 

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29 minutes ago, BossThatGarrityLaaa said:

They are currently doing the bleep test, far side of pitch so can’t see if any new faces as yet.

Only 13 players involved in the training.

New training gear is an Olive Green colour.


 

I know the players do a lot of media so have to mind their language but didn’t realise they had to do a bleep test in training to help with those commitments.  Just shows how far the club has come with it’s coaching, it’s no longer just repeatedly running too and fro.

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7 minutes ago, robf said:

I do - it was fourteen years ago under a different manager and owners. 

I mean if you want to go back into the past and different times - Andy Jones, Ian Taylor, Stewart Talbot, Gareth Griffiths... but I would say they are not relevant now either as that was also a long time ago. 

It's all about the quality of scouting and sports analysis. I agree it can be done and we've done it with non league players etc. In the case of Chasetown the then management thought they had a couple of good players. And what really happened is the two in question had the game of their life against PV in the cup. A bit like Tom Pope had a great game against Man City but he was never near being a consistent Premier League player and within a couple of years his professional career was over.  

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2 minutes ago, Trumpingtonvale said:


 

I know the players do a lot of media so have to mind their language but didn’t realise they had to do a bleep test in training to help with those commitments.  Just shows how far the club has come with it’s coaching, it’s no longer just repeatedly running too and fro.

This bleep test can kill you if you ain't super fit.

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9 minutes ago, Warren said:

It's all about the quality of scouting and sports analysis. I agree it can be done and we've done it with non league players etc. In the case of Chasetown the then management thought they had a couple of good players. And what really happened is the two in question had the game of their life against PV in the cup. A bit like Tom Pope had a great game against Man City but he was never near being a consistent Premier League player and within a couple of years his professional career was over.  

Wasn’t one of those players (Chasetown) Kyle Perry, who we signed on the back of that game?

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4 minutes ago, Trumpingtonvale said:

Wasn’t one of those players (Chasetown) Kyle Perry, who we signed on the back of that game?

You’ve blown the kit reveal and now you’ve posted the name Kyle effing Perry on the forum.  Very poor form.

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1 minute ago, Guitar Ray said:

You’ve blown the kit reveal and now you’ve posted the name Kyle effing Perry on the forum.  Very poor form.

In previous years I did put <ovf censored> scripts around certain player names in order to lower stress levels for forum users. Exodus, Neal McKenzie to name but two...

Perhaps I ought to do it again... :whistling:

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50 minutes ago, robf said:

I do - it was fourteen years ago under a different manager and owners. 

I mean if you want to go back into the past and different times - Andy Jones, Ian Taylor, Stewart Talbot, Gareth Griffiths... but I would say they are not relevant now either as that was also a long time ago.

If you want to pick a more recent example - our current player of the year was playing for Warrington Town two years ago until Blackpool took a punt. Not every one will work out but there are still examples (such as Garrity) of ones that do.

Connor Hall was still playing non league at Brackley in 2018

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