Summer transfer targets/rumours, retained list etc

[aspin for england]

1 hour ago, tisdeano said:

We need a few strikers and a keeper , I wasn’t aware until I read this thread

Tisdeano where have you been  , same posters telling us half a dozen times a day for the last couple of weeks that we need a keeper and at least two strikers . You probably just missed it .

[darren1810]

Whilst I accept the keeper situation is far from ideal I've been racking my brains about goalkeeper injuries during my 40 odd years watching Vale play.

I remember Paul Millar in goal possibly Oldham, Liam Burns also. Those obviously before the days of keeper subs. 

Boots fake Injury at Crewe where Hornby came on. And Covolan red at Northampton and v Swindon. 

Bound to of missed a few. So it's a calculated risk we are taking but I'm sure one will be here shortly to calm people's nerves.

So the odds are maybe one in 200 for such an occurrence, but it's certainly more psychological perhaps because of Mad Cov last season. 

Ps Trevor Wood red card springs to mind too 

[robf]

14 minutes ago, darren1810 said:

Whilst I accept the keeper situation is far from ideal I've been racking my brains about goalkeeper injuries during my 40 odd years watching Vale play.

I remember Paul Millar in goal possibly Oldham, Liam Burns also. Those obviously before the days of keeper subs. 

Boots fake Injury at Crewe where Hornby came on. And Covolan red at Northampton and v Swindon. 

Bound to of missed a few. So it's a calculated risk we are taking but I'm sure one will be here shortly to calm people's nerves.

So the odds are maybe one in 200 for such an occurrence, but it's certainly more psychological perhaps because of Mad Cov last season. 

Ps Trevor Wood red card springs to mind too 

Andy Jones took the gloves once and I think Phil Sproson may have done so too. 

[snowdrifter]

14 minutes ago, robf said:

Andy Jones took the gloves once and I think Phil Sproson may have done so too. 

I think Jones did it twice, on 2 consecutive Saturdays. Also Wayne Cegielski went in goal when Siddall got injured.

[tisdeano]

Tisdeano where have you been  , same posters telling us half a dozen times a day for the last couple of weeks that we need a keeper and at least two strikers . You probably just missed it .

[gavcradd]

I genuinely don't understand why we don't have a youth team keeper on the bench. With 7 subs to name now, makes sense in case the worst happens. I know they won't be up to L1 standard but they're bound to better than Proctor, Hall or Smithy in goal.

[vale victory]

If we had lost on Saturday everyone would have been having a complete meltdown on here regarding the lack of signings. I have said it before and I will say it again, unless you pay the going rate then you will struggle to get the quality players in that you need. We got away with one on Saturday but  much stuff tests are around the corner. I was not convinced about Covolon but to let him go out on loan with no obvious replacement lined up and have no keeper on the bench on the opening game of the season was nothing short of ridiculous. 
At present we are relying on Proctor staying fit whilst Wilson is out injured and are hoping that a 17 year old Academy Striker can fill the void. Not forgetting if anything happens to Stone then we are knackered. Signings need to be made and quick. 

McDermott is not a striker he’s a center mid

[worldsendvalefan]

I genuinely don't understand why we don't have a youth team keeper on the bench. With 7 subs to name now, makes sense in case the worst happens. I know they won't be up to L1 standard but they're bound to better than Proctor, Hall or Smithy in goal.

Totally agree, would also give a youngster a massive confidence boost

[mikey]

5 minutes ago, worldsendvalefan said:

42 minutes ago, gavcradd said:

I genuinely don't understand why we don't have a youth team keeper on the bench. With 7 subs to name now, makes sense in case the worst happens. I know they won't be up to L1 standard but they're bound to better than Proctor, Hall or Smithy in goal.

Totally agree, would also give a youngster a massive confidence boost

Or would totally shred it... 

[Quebec_Valiant]

1 hour ago, darren1810 said:

Whilst I accept the keeper situation is far from ideal I've been racking my brains about goalkeeper injuries during my 40 odd years watching Vale play.

I remember Paul Millar in goal possibly Oldham, Liam Burns also. Those obviously before the days of keeper subs. 

Boots fake Injury at Crewe where Hornby came on. And Covolan red at Northampton and v Swindon. 

Bound to of missed a few. So it's a calculated risk we are taking but I'm sure one will be here shortly to calm people's nerves.

So the odds are maybe one in 200 for such an occurrence, but it's certainly more psychological perhaps because of Mad Cov last season. 

Ps Trevor Wood red card springs to mind too 

I seem to recall that we had a torrid time with keepers a few years back, ended up with emergency loan after emergency loan from week to week.  It's not just the in game injuries that we need to worry about.

 

[wotsyobeef]

Tommy McDermott isn't even a striker, he's a midfielder playing out of position.

I'm not sure but I don't think any player in the history of football has successfully transitioned to another position once they have reached the age of 17.

[darren1810]

4 minutes ago, Quebec_Valiant said:

I seem to recall that we had a torrid time with keepers a few years back, ended up with emergency loan after emergency loan from week to week.  It's not just the in game injuries that we need to worry about.

 

True, the Bruno/Brown season. 

[TJHValiant]

14 hours ago, TreacleValiant said:

If we had lost on Saturday everyone would have been having a complete meltdown on here regarding the lack of signings. I have said it before and I will say it again, unless you pay the going rate then you will struggle to get the quality players in that you need. We got away with one on Saturday but  much stuff tests are around the corner. I was not convinced about Covolon but to let him go out on loan with no obvious replacement lined up and have no keeper on the bench on the opening game of the season was nothing short of ridiculous. 
At present we are relying on Proctor staying fit whilst Wilson is out injured and are hoping that a 17 year old Academy Striker can fill the void. Not forgetting if anything happens to Stone then we are knackered. Signings need to be made and quick. 

I agree with the keeper situation. Not having at least another ready to play is simply stupid, especially when you actually have a keeper but make a choice to loan him out without a backup. 
 

The striker thing I am less concerned about. A good one is always expensive and for now goals can come from elsewhere and we have two good ones at least. If the right guy comes along, I’m sure he will get snapped up. 

[ollyandpatch]

14 hours ago, TreacleValiant said:

If we had lost on Saturday everyone would have been having a complete meltdown on here regarding the lack of signings. I have said it before and I will say it again, unless you pay the going rate then you will struggle to get the quality players in that you need. We got away with one on Saturday but  much stuff tests are around the corner. I was not convinced about Covolon but to let him go out on loan with no obvious replacement lined up and have no keeper on the bench on the opening game of the season was nothing short of ridiculous. 
At present we are relying on Proctor staying fit whilst Wilson is out injured and are hoping that a 17 year old Academy Striker can fill the void. Not forgetting if anything happens to Stone then we are knackered. Signings need to be made and quick. 

When we lose our first game of the season in late September this forum will be in meltdown.

It's become par for the course and we know the names who will be driving it. !

[tsproston]

2 hours ago, krakaddict said:

I think Jones did it twice, on 2 consecutive Saturdays. Also Wayne Cegielski went in goal when Siddall got injured.

Liam Burns had a brief spell in goals, apologies I hadn't seen an earlier post about this.