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Match Thread: Walsall v Port Vale


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2 minutes ago, jeffers said:

Just try and believe that your glass is possibly half full rather than it being continually half empty. I am totally brassed off, but that is football. I never expected to be contesting automatics, but once we were it is now depressing that we fall at the final hurdle.

No-one is to blame, not least the players, management or staff that have raised our status this season.

By the way, the season is not yet over…….

I try constantly mate, but sometimes at 4am when the game finishes then I feel like a zombie while I recover for the rest of week I sometimes contemplate why on earth I do it. I try to believe my glass is indeed half full. Otherwise I would not be in a phone box at 2.30am on a random morning January in 2006 while Vale play away at Aston Villa the FA Cup my Dad holding the phone to the speaker blaring out radio stoke commentary, believing we can pull off a shock. I am also a realist. The realism is that we are 'sh 1 t 3' at the moment. So it is up to the players to make me believe, I will still be up at all hours next week. Watching, hoping. UTV!!

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1 minute ago, Joe B said:

If we finish 4th-5th and lose in the playoffs semis, are fans happy? Genuinely interested. 

Will be totally gutted but after a few days or so may well look back on the season and say its not been a bad one ?

Then the work starts and the money required to make us stronger for next season because this one will have been a failure

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8 minutes ago, MelbourneValiant said:

Dan Jones long throws: I think they are as useful as an average player lumping a long loop ball into the box. It is keeper fodder, at best you a flick on and hope it drops to feet. Unless it has a wicked trajectory like Rory Delap had where there is no reasoning when gravity would take effect then these throws are useless.

Have we actually scored this season from one of Jones' long throws?

When people were praising him and his performances back in the Autumn when he was a regular, and listing his long throw as a massive asset, I thought then that it was probably one of the more ineffective parts of his game.

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2 minutes ago, MelbourneValiant said:

I try constantly mate, but sometimes at 4am when the game finishes then I feel like a zombie while I recover for the rest of week I sometimes contemplate why on earth I do it. I try to believe my glass is indeed half full. Otherwise I would not be in a phone box at 2.30am on a random morning January in 2006 while Vale play away at Aston Villa the FA Cup my Dad holding the phone to the speaker blaring out radio stoke commentary, believing we can pull off a shock. I am also a realist. The realism is that we are 'sh 1 t 3' at the moment. So it is up to the players to make me believe, I will still be up at all hours next week. Watching, hoping. UTV!!

No different in Australia than Sandyford ????

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2 minutes ago, The Kalamazoo Kid said:

Have we actually scored this season from one of Jones' long throws?

When people were praising him and his performances back in the Autumn when he was a regular, and listing his long throw as a massive asset, I thought then that it was probably one of the more ineffective parts of his game.

Yes but we have to score from one of them one day !!

I agree, once the throw arrives in the box it is a bit of a lottery but you never know.

His play out from the back was his most effective part of his game i thought. He and Cass pushed us forward more so than the current team is doing.

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26 minutes ago, Sandyford_Lion said:

Its ok for you to say that, you are in Australia, i presume. I am in Sandyford but then again its only words.

You are spot on :

My thoughts on this season all hinged on the great run Garrity had. Was it a fluke ? When he has been good he scored goals and looked a breath of fresh air in a poor , none creative midfield. When he has been poor , he has been awful and added to the other two midfielders, have offered us nothing at all in creativity. My assessment on Garitty is that he is average at best and needs to become a squad player.

Once the midfield offers very little we then depend on our two wide men. Worrall has been poor in his creative and attacking play, especially last few months, add to that he has had Smith behind him, who struggles to make a decent pass going forward and we offer very little down the right. Our left also struggles to offer threats too. Do we play Hussey who is a ' specialist ' in dead ball situations but is less mobile or Benning who does get forward but has probably had his worst season for a while.

Up front we have two decent strikers but only two and when we miss them we have no cover. Amoo is poor, Rodney was poor, two you lads have been a bonus and may have a decent career but so far its been hit and miss for them when asked to step up.

The back three have never looked solid even when we have not conceded too many goals. Martin is the main culprit for me. Very slow and does not look sharp enough either. Hall an excellent player. Smith a good center defender and no more. I have to say that we conceded goals when Jones and Cass were in there but they made up for it with their attacking, creative play from the back. This is the reason we scored goals in the first half of the season. They made the midfield push forward more

Goalie, you can still choose any one from three for me.

We have missed Conlon and Gibbons for sure but if they are not fit you cannot play them. Two games to go and then the play offs. Still in with a chance but a slim one for me. Need to change things around, dont think we will though. We look a very tired team after a tough season. I would go with :

Stone

Smith  Hall  Jones

Gibbons Garrity Pett Charsley Hussey

Proctor Wilson

If Gibbons not fit then we will stick with Worral / Edmondson 

Then we need some start performances from several players

 

Are you one of those motivational speakers that people go to to keep their pecker up 😍😍😍

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6 minutes ago, philmpv said:
8 minutes ago, Joe B said:
If we finish 4th-5th and lose in the playoffs semis, are fans happy? Genuinely interested. 

After the past 5 years, yes. Disappointed for sure, but no longer worrying about where the club is going

I want to agree but we need to move on from Smurthwaite. He’s been gone for three years and eventually we have to hold the club to standards beyond the desperately low ones he set.

This season could, and probably will, be both a good season and a big disappointment, a massive missed opportunity which we regret with the arrival of Wrexham and Stockport. The position we were in post-Hartlepool looked superb, and to prospect of the playoffs and the accompanying stress and possible heartbreak is a possibility only us truly miserable folk would consider. 

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9 minutes ago, Sandyford_Lion said:

6 points is promotion. Providing Exeter beat Northampton

You know having to play Barrow away won’t be an easy final one for them either. Barrow will want to end the season on a high and as safe, will maybe play with freedom. Long journey for Northampton too.

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8 minutes ago, philmpv said:
10 minutes ago, Joe B said:
If we finish 4th-5th and lose in the playoffs semis, are fans happy? Genuinely interested. 

After the past 5 years, yes. Disappointed for sure, but no longer worrying about where the club is going

Yes, I will be glued to iFollow every Saturday morning regardless of what division we are in.  We have made significant progress this year, regardless of where we end up.

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5 minutes ago, Sandyford_Lion said:

6 points is promotion. Providing Exeter beat Northampton

6 points will see us up, even if its a draw next Saturday between Exeter & Northampton.

We are now heavily reliant on the opposition's position/approach in the last 2 games :-

- Newport being unable to make the play-offs by the time we play them

- Exeter already promoted but unable to win the Title by the last game

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