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3 hours ago, Bycarsbill said:

Statistically true, but Walsall away, Newport (H) Exeter away = 7 or 9 points=OPTIMISTIC

That may be true - but worst case scenario is that the 3 teams closest to us HAVE to win their games to push us into getting the 7 points we would need. If those 3 drop points - and anything's possible with their run-ins - then we need fewer points, and would be under less pressure to get them! Why would you think we can't win our last 3 games when we've W 11 D 7 L2  (40pts out of 60) of the 20 we've played since losing 3 on the bounce (Salford/Swindon/Newport - probably the worst we've done against teams around us)? 

Incidentally - we need 4 points to be guaranteed a play-off place...I think that's a huge achievement considering the shiw we've gone through?

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Same here mate, turnstiles 25;26,27,and28 closed the que was about 300 yards long when I joined it at 2-30, got in the ground at 3-15 having missed 2 goals.
It's not good. I usually get there at like 245 but as I knew it would be busier than usual got there at 2pm. Turnstiles weren't even open and there was a massive queue.
We've got to get better at all these basics. The match day experience around ticketing and entering the ground is poor.
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My seat is in the RP around the halfway line. How far outside the penalty area was the trip on Wilson in the second half
It was definitely outside. They were great at tactical fouls and they rotated to make sure nobody got sent off. A classic Barton team with very little class.

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1 hour ago, darren1810 said:

To me there's now a lot of psychology involved. Had we been 5th and won to go 2 points clear in 3rd we'd all be bouncing. But we are all on a downer after result.

It's still in our hands so that's all we can ask. Very difficult with our injuries but we can still do it.

Bristol are a much improved team but a horrible niggly bunch seemingly happy with a thug who doesn't deserve to be in football running the show. Strange.  

He belongs in prison with his brother 

Charsley and Garrity were fouled each time they challenged for a header,by an elbow or being jumped in 

The foul on Smith was a red

The blatant foul on Wilson 

I thought our MF was outbattled...no one came short to take the ball off the defence so we had to go long 

Thought we took too many touches when we got closer to the box 

I actually thought Martin had a good game 

I think Crosby gambled to try to get an equaliser but with hindsight,maybe use Amoo? Easy for me to say but they had so many defenders on yellows...

The ref was diabolical. Their 15 got booked and strolled off when subbed. And as for the keeper....

O well,3 to go, we're still 3rd and it may come down to GD 

Stay positive 

One game a time

 

 

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Barton in 1 ear & 10,000 Vale fans in the other. 
Come on boys.
This is exactly what happened today!! Vale not good, but brizzle horrible and made in Bartons image. Didn't think they were such a good side as many people are saying. Ref weak.
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Ref appointment was atrocious.  Not saying for a moment it cost us the game but a truly staggering appointment. 
 
I agree. It was a huge error by whoever appointed him and it showed. Their captain refereed the game and the keeper wasn't even trying to hide his timewasting. He was warned by the referee about 3 times. Just book him and it cuts it out!

I knew that once we went a goal down that it would be very difficult to get back into it. A Barton team was clearly going to do every trick in the book to delay, timewaste, frustrate and they didn't disappoint. They certainly weren't interested in a football match second half. Frustratingly they looked all at sea at the back at times if we had just got at them more. It seems our luck ran out today, whenever a ball ricocheted, it went to them. Whenever a cross came close it hit someone and went out. It was just one of those days. Incidentally, although I was away working, I watched the Exeter game on iplayer and thought they were a far better team, intent on playing the right way.

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6 minutes ago, leedsvaliant said:

It was definitely outside. They were great at tactical fouls and they rotated to make sure nobody got sent off. A classic Barton team with very little class.

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Leeds, thank you. I couldn’t tell from where I was sitting also no one int the LS or Bycars appealed

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26 minutes ago, Playa Amodores said:

My seat is in the RP around the halfway line. How far outside the penalty area was the trip on Wilson in the second half

It was outside the area but a lot closer than where the free kick was taken from.

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Been sat looking at all the permutations but it's a waste of time really.

We're virtually 1 win away from ensuring Tranmere & Mansfield can't catch us, meaning that it's going to be 2 of Exeter, ourselves, Northampton, Rovers & Sutton for the automatics.

Win on Saturday & the picture could look very different. Rovers have got FGR at home & Northampton are away at a resurgent Orient. We have to win though. A point would be enough to see us stay 3rd with 2 x games to go barring a big Northampton win.

Draw at Walsall sees us level on points but ahead on GD with 2 x games to play. The Newport game on Sky would become HUGE.

My niggling worry is that in the reverse fixtures (2 of which were at home) we won 1 point from the next 3.

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3 hours ago, Powerline said:

Don’t get the Worrall criticism. At least 5 worse players than him today imo.

I don't understand the need for scapegoating at all? Just accept we had an off day and leave it at the collective fault of the group - none of us know why any particular player has had an off day!? 

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37 minutes ago, DazFred said:

He belongs in prison with his brother 

Charsley and Garrity were fouled each time they challenged for a header,by an elbow or being jumped in 

The foul on Smith was a red

The blatant foul on Wilson 

I thought our MF was outbattled...no one came short to take the ball off the defence so we had to go long 

Thought we took too many touches when we got closer to the box 

I actually thought Martin had a good game 

I think Crosby gambled to try to get an equaliser but with hindsight,maybe use Amoo? Easy for me to say but they had so many defenders on yellows...

The ref was diabolical. Their 15 got booked and strolled off when subbed. And as for the keeper....

O well,3 to go, we're still 3rd and it may come down to GD 

Stay positive 

One game a time 

 

 

They mastered the dark arts far better than us, their game management was inspired, the Ref. allowing the lad to slowly walk off after telling him to hurry up while having a chat was on another level,  having sent off their players at The Memorial Ground, I felt the Ref. bottled the tackle on Smith, ( Maybe he had Bartons criticism ringing in his ears from the previous game) but all that said, their keeper had very little to do except break the play up by time wasting but our lack of cover today in midfield cost us dearly.

 

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Win next 3 we are promoted that's all we should be concentrating on.

Today's match has gone. Can't do anything about the result, so let's all stay positive and take each match one game at s time.

If Walsall weren't Walsall I would say playing away to a team who are mid table and lost 3 in 4 would be ideal opposition at this stage of the season.

It aint over till the fat lady sings!

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15 minutes ago, rob1983 said:

Why did we have no ball boys behind the goal today? So much time wasting by their keeper.

Rob, from my position the Vale players had to retrieve the ball at the Bycars, for the exact reason that you’ve outlined.

I was wondering what happened to the ball boy synonymous for the Mansfield incident as he wasn’t there today. Was he injured or has he left the club by mutual consent 

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3 hours ago, soothsayer said:

Not a huge swing in GD now after today’s swing of 5 to Northampton.

So there's a GD difference between us of 5 in our favour - at the moment. But, if we win 2 / draw 1 our GD increases by a minimum of 2; win all 3 it would increase by a minimum of 3 (and GD wouldn't matter because of our points total!). 

For the pessimists amongst you who seem to delight in pointing out that Vale could fail to get promotion - you're absolutely right...there IS that chance! So enjoy your moment of  doom and gloom - because there's a very good chance we will get promotion! Recent results suggest this is a blip, rather than a pattern? Maybe our team will come out and play like worldbeaters in their last games? None of us know - so why not look on the bright side, instead of the dark side?

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3 hours ago, Bycarsbill said:

Of course it's still in our hands, but it's also about fine margins and there's now absolutely no room for error!

Which isn't the same as "It's not in our hands, now"!

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We need Pett for the last three games, assuming Walker is done for the season.

Frustrating really we started like a train as we do often do at home got the perfect start and then Wilson gets taken out as about to go clean through. Awful free kick for Taylor and moments later it’s 1-1.

2nd goal was sloppy, identical to the Oldham one almost last week and lessons not learnt.

DJ has to score, 1 on 1 keeper out his area just knock it past him and slot home or force him into taking you out and walking? Shame it didn’t fall to Wilson or Procs otherwise it’s 2-2.

Bad day at the office, Worrall didn’t look fit, the midfield injuries are a problem and we have to just get back on the horse and make a go of it at the weekend.

The promotion race is wide open now after today, Sutton going under the radar have an easy run in…

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