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Match Thread: Port Vale v Bristol Rovers


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1 minute ago, Valiant62 said:

We (and particularly Ben) were going down snipper in Row Z style particularly early on and I do think that trying to influence the ref stopped us concentrating on competing in midfield at times. It’s kin of self explanatory tbh. 

Absolutely tripe.

All about opinions though. 

 

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RaceYour mob tried every trick to sway a poor ref. If you concentrated on playing football instead of cheap tricks you may have got a draw. 
you were the same as a lot of sides in this division, long ball. 
 
we played you off the park. 
Look at the table kid still behind us
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Wasn’t a huge deal in the game. Bristol Rovers played some nice stuff at times without creating a huge amount but they took their chances and we didn’t. Some of their tackling and general antics go to demonstrate the nature of sides built in their managers image.

Nice to see a decent following in the Hamil for a change.

3 to go, still in our own hands. Would have taken that in August and given the circumstances of the season it is a minor miracle that such is the case.

Dust ourselves down and go again next weekend.

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Stone - 6 - didn’t look super confident to me, maybe nerves, and could have done better with the first.

Martin - 7 - pulled out of position a bit and a few stray passes. Picked up the speed in the second half and really showed passion at times.

Smith - 5 - battled away but got matched for s**thousery and had no answers. Lost possession often

Hall - 6 - nothing too bad, but a quiet game and the lack of long balls meant he couldn’t fight in the air

Worrall - 6 - some ok link-up play but he’s not fully fit. Running as much as he can but some players are clearly not fit.

Benning - 6 - decent in spells, should have taken that one that dropped to him first time

Taylor - 3 - caught for the first, lightweight, slow in possession, not cut through. Though he wouldn’t be in from the start if we had anyone else.

Charlsey - 4 - same ^

Garrity - 5 - one of the many victims of constant late tackles and general violence. No cut through, but with no help what can you do? Put his body on the line again.

Wilson - 6.5 - left to run, which is a disaster as my nan could catch him. Fantastic as part of an attacking group, but no support at times.

Proctor - 8 - top quality first touches, strong, creative, a constant threat even totally alone. Clearly MOTM for me.

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All football fans are the same, we only see it one way, no way commented on Bennings's awful dive against Oldham when he didn't get booked, Garrity's 2 footed challenge that should have resulted in a red card in the same game or the penalty that Hartlepool should have got on Monday.  We all see it the same way, refs are awful, the standard is getting worse.

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It’s still in our hands, but the big problem is Bristol Rovers were not great shakes and we let them pass it round like vintage Vieira. The midfield 3 were not an auto-promotion central unit, that’s a fact. If they play the remaining games from the start then we’ll struggle to make the playoffs. Without Pett we’re doomed because he puts his foot in and passes the ball forward. He’ll make a massive difference.

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7 minutes ago, darren1810 said:

Absolutely tripe.

All about opinions though. 

 

If anything I thought we were a bit too honest today. The No.15 and that Grant for them were an absolute disgrace. I thought we would have got better at the “dark arts” but I’ve not seen much evidence so far. We need to adopt more of a ‘do whatever it takes’ attitude in these last couple of games because that might just be the extra 1% that takes us up.

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3 hours ago, MelbourneValiant said:

When we were 'promoted' v Northampton didn't they bring 2,500 and the away was only half full? If that end holds 4,500, then it is hard to see 2,250 empty seats in the away end today. On the telly it looked a lot more than 10.8k. Safety certificate aside, with 18,000 seats, I can't see where 8k could have gone.

Maybe it looked emptier in real life I dunno?

The ground was quite full, personally i thought about 13k were there and thought Bristol bought 3k. the front few rows of the hamil were empty as was the side past the netting to the railway paddock. The paddock looked almost full apart from near the bycars but the Railway stand had a number of blocks of empty seats. The bycars looked almost full as was the Lorne street where i sat although strangely when i went to the gents at half time it was easier to walk through the concourse than a normal match attendance. Personally I think somethings wrong with vales systems, I checked myself last night and Lorne Street, Railway Stand and Paddock were all off sale the only seats for purchase being in the Bycars. If it isnt that then theres something wrong with the licencing of the ground that means parts must be kept empty, either way it needs addressing in the close season for us to be able to push forward. For all the talk there was a few years ago of moving us to a new stadium with a 10k capacity today prooves that would of been totally inadaquate but also inadaquate is a stadium with a purported higher capacity that can't be used. If you make it difficult for people to attend then they wont. 

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It’s still in our hands, but the big problem is Bristol Rovers were not great shakes and we let them pass it round like vintage Vieira. The midfield 3 were not an auto-promotion central unit, that’s a fact. If they play the remaining games from the start then we’ll struggle to make the playoffs. Without Pett we’re doomed because he puts his foot in and passes the ball forward. He’ll make a massive difference.

Agreed to a point. Not sure Pett wouldn’t have been muscled out of it tbh but with Walker on I think we’d have got something today. But I think it’s an exaggeration to say we dominated the 2nd half like some have done. We huffed and puffed and created one gilt-edged chance (Jones, off an counter) and a couple of scrambled. Never really had any real control of the game IMO.

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I would say they were nasty, but that would imply there was an underhand nature to it. The ref let so much blatant cheating go unpunished that it was farcical at times. We were bullied within and outside the rules of the game but we couldn’t get a foothold and without players who can stand up psychically the last few games look difficult. Saturday will hardly be a tippy-tappy lovefest.  

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5 minutes ago, Biddulph_PV said:

Agreed to a point. Not sure Pett wouldn’t have been muscled out of it tbh but with Walker on I think we’d have got something today. But I think it’s an exaggeration to say we dominated the 2nd half like some have done. We huffed and puffed and created one gilt-edged chance (Jones, off an counter) and a couple of scrambled. Never really had any real control of the game IMO.

I agree re Walker and Pett. He would have lost some 50-50s but he would have actually been here to get something in the midfield. I thought Jones looked like a good option and he’d start for me over Taylor in that midfield 3 but I know that’ll not happen.

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Took a bit of time before posting. Really don't think Taylor is the answer our defensive mid woes. Struck me as a return of the Jake taylor of last year, 1 good half Friday then back to mediocre. I think Garrity may need a break as he looked miles off it. Subs baffling too, i get we don't have a lot of options in the middle atm, but Jones for Charlsey absolutely lost me. Charlsey was the only midfield that actually looked half decent. Lots of individual mistakes all over the park.

But you won't win every game, and hopefully this will be a wake up call to some lads who thought we'd made it already. IF we go up, given the amount of injuries we have now, the team deserve a hell of a lot of credit.

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15 minutes ago, chickensteve said:

The ground was quite full, personally i thought about 13k were there and thought Bristol bought 3k. the front few rows of the hamil were empty as was the side past the netting to the railway paddock. The paddock looked almost full apart from near the bycars but the Railway stand had a number of blocks of empty seats. The bycars looked almost full as was the Lorne street where i sat although strangely when i went to the gents at half time it was easier to walk through the concourse than a normal match attendance. Personally I think somethings wrong with vales systems, I checked myself last night and Lorne Street, Railway Stand and Paddock were all off sale the only seats for purchase being in the Bycars. If it isnt that then theres something wrong with the licencing of the ground that means parts must be kept empty, either way it needs addressing in the close season for us to be able to push forward. For all the talk there was a few years ago of moving us to a new stadium with a 10k capacity today prooves that would of been totally inadaquate but also inadaquate is a stadium with a purported higher capacity that can't be used. If you make it difficult for people to attend then they wont. 

Attendance looked about right to me but we obviously need to get more turnstyles open if we are to continue with crowds like this. i would guess Rovers brought about 2.5 k 

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24 minutes ago, valefan79 said:

All football fans are the same, we only see it one way, no way commented on Bennings's awful dive against Oldham when he didn't get booked, Garrity's 2 footed challenge that should have resulted in a red card in the same game or the penalty that Hartlepool should have got on Monday.  We all see it the same way, refs are awful, the standard is getting worse.

I agree that some decisions go for you and others go against you and statisticians say that over a season they balance themselves out, probably correct. Just that Garritys wasn’t a two footed challenge, an extremely hard one footed challenge, that’s why he wasn’t sent off. He didn’t go over the top of the ball either. I think the ref had a good view and that’s why he didn’t produce a red card or even consult the linesman, who again had a good view

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10 minutes ago, 1 said:

I would say they were nasty, but that would imply there was an underhand nature to it. The ref let so much blatant cheating go unpunished that it was farcical at times. We were bullied within and outside the rules of the game but we couldn’t get a foothold and without players who can stand up psychically the last few games look difficult. Saturday will hardly be a tippy-tappy lovefest.  

Ref appointment was atrocious.  Not saying for a moment it cost us the game but a truly staggering appointment. 

 

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Thought it was comfortable for Bristol Rovers today tbf. I went for a 2-2 draw prior to the game.

If I'm honest when I saw Walker going off at Hartlepool, I thought we may struggle in midfield and we did.

Rovers jumped on Proctor, nullified Benning and took control of the game. second half was an improvement but I couldn't see a goal coming. Not sure if we'll see Pett, Gibbo or Walker again this season. Jake Taylor needs games, who will take the holding role in midfield?

We allowed their skipper Coutts to dictate the game and the referee, reminded me of Barton tbh.

I'm not gonna knock one poor performance too much when you consider we were in 10th position a few months back. We've had terrible injuries and off-field tragedies, our starting midfield is injured. If we can get the ball to Proctor and Wilson with decent support we'll be OK.

There were more than 10,840 there today, nothing has been learned from the Tranmere game in respect of queues and refreshments by the look of it. Is there an 80% safety factor on the ground. Has the paddock been deemed unsafe (obviosly not otherwise we wouldn't be allowed in?). A few rumours about regarding safety certs and finance - I don't believe them btw.

The more money that comes in the better for the club, we must have one of the overall highest wage bills in the league.

A great season - just needs topping off with another 9 points.

"We go again as they always say" UTV

 

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