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Match Thread: Port Vale v Crawley Town


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19 minutes ago, WV said:

Last week we had people saying sack the interim manager, the season is over and I had lots of replies telling me I didn’t know what I was on about because I dared to suggest that the season wasn’t over as we were only 4 pts off the playoffs with plenty of games left. I was the unrealistic one to think we would ever win again. You can’t have sensible and considerate discussion when toys are getting thrown out of the park after 1 loss in 10 

Or only 3 wins in 10, which is hardly top-7 form either. I’ve never hidden from the fact that, after the summer investment in both playing staff and coaches, that I felt a top-3 place was realistic. Yes we’ve had some rotten luck, but injuries are part and parcel and there is no getting away from the fact that January’s business wasn’t great. I don’t recall ever saying the season was over but unless we put an incredible run together (yesterday may be the catalyst, probably know better after Tuesday) then the autos look slim if you look at the historical points required. We may get in the Play-offs but my personal view is that I don’t think we’ll win them (we’re bound to get Swindon or Northampton) but it’s a lottery and quite often it’s the team who hits form that wins. I feel there are certain types of team (strong, physical, niggly like Northampton or Newport, or Swindon who exploit the gaps in our midfield) we struggle against and with the likes of Brizzle, Oldham, Bradford and Walsall who have all hit form and Exeter twice, Newport, Sutton etc then it’s not going to be as straight-forward as some think on here. So I feel the odds at the moment suggest we’ll still be in L2 next year, irrespective of how the rest of the season plays out which hopefully see an exciting climax. I challenge anyone to say that would not be slightly disappointing. The issue then is the out of contract spine of the team and having to re-build again. 

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10 hours ago, MBE said:

Personally I hate the new temporary speakers. It’s about 10 yards away from our seats and we can’t have a chat pre match or halftime because it’s so loud. 

Happy it’s the only think I can moan about today.

You must seat near to me and my lad. I felt sorry for the steward who was virtually sat on top of it . 

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7 minutes ago, Biddulph_PV said:

Or only 3 wins in 10, which is hardly top-7 form either. I’ve never hidden from the fact that, after the summer investment in both playing staff and coaches, that I felt a top-3 place was realistic. Yes we’ve had some rotten luck, but injuries are part and parcel and there is no getting away from the fact that January’s business wasn’t great. I don’t recall ever saying the season was over but unless we put an incredible run together (yesterday may be the catalyst, probably know better after Tuesday) then the autos look slim if you look at the historical points required. We may get in the Play-offs but my personal view is that I don’t think we’ll win them (we’re bound to get Swindon or Northampton) but it’s a lottery and quite often it’s the team who hits form that wins. I feel there are certain types of team (strong, physical, niggly like Northampton or Newport, or Swindon who exploit the gaps in our midfield) we struggle against and with the likes of Brizzle, Oldham, Bradford and Walsall who have all hit form and Exeter twice, Newport, Sutton etc then it’s not going to be as straight-forward as some think on here. So I feel the odds at the moment suggest we’ll still be in L2 next year, irrespective of how the rest of the season plays out which hopefully see an exciting climax. I challenge anyone to say that would not be slightly disappointing. The issue then is the out of contract spine of the team and having to re-build again. 

Last 10 games form table has us 7th 
 

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3 minutes ago, Biddulph_PV said:

That’s interesting. But prior to yesterday it was 3 from 10 wasn’t it, which wouldn’t be top-7.

You could just say I was wrong. 
 

 

“And when people’s views are pulled apart, interrogated and challenged in a sensible and considered way, this forum will be much the better for it.”

 
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Yesterday showed we’re much better when we dare to have a go at teams. We just need to do it from the first whistle.

I thought Stone absolutely justified his return to the side; Hall was very good with and without the ball; Wilson and Proctor, while not on the scoresheet, showed why they’re integral to our forward play by creating some very good assists; Charsley’s got a great engine and I love the way he relentlessly closes down the opposition. Thank the Lord for Garrity.

If we had Gibbons in for Hussey, I’d say we’ve a strong XI. I’m not entirely convinced by the latter. He reminds me of Benning in his tendency to play the ball either sideways or backwards - going against what you require from a wing back/winger.

3-5-2 worked well, unsurprisingly. It was nice to see Worrall more advanced in the first half. I’d like to see Amoo get some minutes during this next fortnight of consecutive fixtures. He has more to offer from the bench than Cooper and Harratt.

Half of our remaining games are against the top 9. It’s hard to know whether we’re capable of using that to our advantage. A 4-1 should surely instil some momentum for Tuesday, regardless.
 

 

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3 minutes ago, Denry Machin said:

Yesterday showed we’re much better when we dare to have a go at teams. We just need to do it from the first whistle.

I thought Stone absolutely justified his return to the side; Hall was very good with and without the ball; Wilson and Proctor, while not on the scoresheet, showed why they’re integral to our forward play by creating some very good assists; Charsley’s got a great engine and I love the way he relentlessly closes down the opposition. Thank the Lord for Garrity.

If we had Gibbons in for Hussey, I’d say we’ve a strong XI. I’m not entirely convinced by the latter. He reminds me of Benning in his tendency to play the ball either sideways or backwards - going against what you require from a wing back/winger.

3-5-2 worked well, unsurprisingly. It was nice to see Worrall more advanced in the first half. I’d like to see Amoo get some minutes during this next fortnight of consecutive fixtures. He has more to offer from the bench than Cooper and Harratt.

Half of our remaining games are against the top 9. It’s hard to know whether we’re capable of using that to our advantage. A 4-1 should surely instil some momentum for Tuesday, regardless.
 

 

Blimey, I was about to post on here and then @Denry Machin sums up my thoughts exactly. 

I also thought Stone looked good in goal and I was also thinking that what we perhaps miss with Hussey is that surging pace down both flanks - so crucial when the wings create so many chances. That's not saying Hussey isn't steady - his defensive work was very good, I felt - but Gibbo just offers that star quality to win a match with a surging run, it's such a pity he's injured but hopefully he'll be back for the last few games. 

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30 minutes ago, WV said:

You could just say I was wrong. 
 

 

 

“And when people’s views are pulled apart, interrogated and challenged in a sensible and considered way, this forum will be much the better for it.”

 

I actually give up. I really do. Trying to have a sensible debate really is like pulling teeth on here at times. 

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1 hour ago, Biddulph_PV said:

Or only 3 wins in 10, which is hardly top-7 form either. I’ve never hidden from the fact that, after the summer investment in both playing staff and coaches, that I felt a top-3 place was realistic. Yes we’ve had some rotten luck, but injuries are part and parcel and there is no getting away from the fact that January’s business wasn’t great. I don’t recall ever saying the season was over but unless we put an incredible run together (yesterday may be the catalyst, probably know better after Tuesday) then the autos look slim if you look at the historical points required. We may get in the Play-offs but my personal view is that I don’t think we’ll win them (we’re bound to get Swindon or Northampton) but it’s a lottery and quite often it’s the team who hits form that wins. I feel there are certain types of team (strong, physical, niggly like Northampton or Newport, or Swindon who exploit the gaps in our midfield) we struggle against and with the likes of Brizzle, Oldham, Bradford and Walsall who have all hit form and Exeter twice, Newport, Sutton etc then it’s not going to be as straight-forward as some think on here. So I feel the odds at the moment suggest we’ll still be in L2 next year, irrespective of how the rest of the season plays out which hopefully see an exciting climax. I challenge anyone to say that would not be slightly disappointing. The issue then is the out of contract spine of the team and having to re-build again. 

Good post this, realistic. We have had opportunities, squandered leads and not performed in certain games. We looked nailed on to  "HMS pi** this tin pot league" as many said prior to December. Injuries, Covid, DC and who knows ahat's gone on with the keeper merry-go-round? The opportunity is still there for the play-offs. We are missing that 'little someting' that teams have when chasing promotion, could be Conlon or a demanding skipper imo? Could be massive change again next year which again is detrimental to consistency. You never know though - THIS IS PORT VALE FOLKS! - NOTHING IS STRAIGHTFORWARD!! UTV

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You could just say I was wrong. 
 
 

“And when people’s views are pulled apart, interrogated and challenged in a sensible and considered way, this forum will be much the better for it.”
 

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Charlesly won everything in midfield,Petty kept things ticking over(brilliant chip for our first),Garrity making superb runs for  his goals.Hall is a beast.Wilson is class.Proctor must start on Tuesday.Same team or possibly Walker for Martin.UTV.

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4 hours ago, Denry Machin said:

Yesterday showed we’re much better when we dare to have a go at teams. We just need to do it from the first whistle.

I thought Stone absolutely justified his return to the side; Hall was very good with and without the ball; Wilson and Proctor, while not on the scoresheet, showed why they’re integral to our forward play by creating some very good assists; Charsley’s got a great engine and I love the way he relentlessly closes down the opposition. Thank the Lord for Garrity.

If we had Gibbons in for Hussey, I’d say we’ve a strong XI. I’m not entirely convinced by the latter. He reminds me of Benning in his tendency to play the ball either sideways or backwards - going against what you require from a wing back/winger.

3-5-2 worked well, unsurprisingly. It was nice to see Worrall more advanced in the first half. I’d like to see Amoo get some minutes during this next fortnight of consecutive fixtures. He has more to offer from the bench than Cooper and Harratt.

Half of our remaining games are against the top 9. It’s hard to know whether we’re capable of using that to our advantage. A 4-1 should surely instil some momentum for Tuesday, regardless.
 

 

I really like Hussey and I dont think its a coincidence that we have tightened up defensively since him and Hall have been signed, however, he didnt seem himself yesterday - Im wondering if he had been carrying the knock for a while before he went off. Would be nice to see Mal being given a few games run - we are lucky when we can replace like for like with quality (I know Benning has been the scapegoat a lot this season, but he is a really good squad player if not better)

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