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8 minutes ago, DazFred said:

 

I know it was earlier in the season but we beat FGR and Swindon. Didn't lose to FGR or Tranmere,lost late on at Sutton when we should have won.

I think the key games at home versus Mansfield,Bristol,Sutton,Newport and Exeter will be make or break.

 

Yeah the fixtures list is looking a bit bleak if our current performances levels continue. I expect us to beat ColU, but Crawley arent on a bad run including beating FGR recently, Mansfield are absolutely flying and Bradford will be a month into the Hughes revolution so who knows. Looking further ahead, of the last 10 games, 5 games against teams above us currently, Salford who are right behind us and Oldham who are having a renaissance under Shez. Walsall Hartlepool and Barrow very winnable on paper.

Then again, any game is winnable on the day as we saw at FGR as you say.

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You mean the 'proven L2 experienced striker' Kane Hemmings? The one who's scored less in more games for Tranny than Edmonson? Or the 'proven L2 experienced striker' Ryan Loft who's yet to score in 6 for Bristol?
Glad we didn't break the bank for them
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6 hours ago, Beech said:

 

And over the season? We've dropped an absolute load of points because we sat back on leads.

 

This shows us top of the league for scoring first. That would suggest we have given the most opportunities to give up winning positions. We also are doing well after being behind in games. 

 

This shows that we have only lost once after being in front in 22 games and drawn 5. I would say turning 16 leads into wins is pretty good going isn't it? 

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2 hours ago, Ben Stevens said:

Thanks Jacko just didn’t want miss the match after the drive on my own 😂🙌 Very interesting night indeed 

Check your messages, Ben. 

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2 hours ago, DazFred said:

Exeter and Mansfield have a game in hand 

They play each other on Friday so here's hoping for a draw.

In addition Exeter also play us twice, Northampton,Newport,Swindon and Tranmere 

In addition Mansfield play us,Tranmere,Sutton,Northampton and FGR(twice)

Last matches of the season include Mansfield v FGR,Exeter v us

It really is up for grabs

 

 

Agreed it is. Just makes our last minute conceding of goals the more frustrating 

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16 minutes ago, valiant_593 said:

Agreed it is. Just makes our last minute conceding of goals the more frustrating 

Spot on. The joy of last minute goals versus Orient and Tranmere. The despair at Rochdale, Sutton and Oldham.

I remember taking my lad to Rochdale a few seasons ago. Lovely Bank Holiday then flaming Calvin Andrew scored in the 95th minute!!

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3 hours ago, Ben Stevens said:

Thanks Jacko just didn’t want miss the match after the drive on my own 😂🙌 Very interesting night indeed 

Ben ur selfish - can't believe you didn't buy me a match day program 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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25 minutes ago, OtterVale said:

We may not go up this season, may be the longest spell down here, but remember Carol is rebuilding the club from the ground up after probably the longest spell with idiots owning the club. I am desperate to see the club back to the glory years under Rudgie but I am realistic, the club has made massive strides during very difficult times for everyone, so let’s get behind the lads and roar them onto to success.

Massive strides? That's praise....I echo your thoughts. This is the first season I have started coming to home games after the Ribeiro fiasco. Me and my lad came from around 2008/9 up until Ribeiro. 

We've played some lovely stuff at times and I didn't think that I would attend 10 league home games for a while. I'll come to at least 5 of the remaining games too.

I feel the squad is better in general. Garrity has been a bonus...goalscoring midfielder. Gibbo,when fit,can definitely play at a higher level. You can tell Wilson has a touch of class. I could go on...

We're still alive and kicking...

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10 hours ago, SFBT said:

He was at the game though...

I'm also intrigued by the notion of resting him after a full 90 minutes on Saturday. On the surface, it seems most logical to have brought him off early on Saturday when we were two up. I keep hearing that it's a squad game with replacements available to slot in...

And that's the difference between us fans and the professionals tasked with running the club...

How many were saying he was crocked and a waste of a wage when the team was announced? Yet what was the fact...rested. Maybe that is why we have the backroom staff we do nowdays, so they make decisions based on a lot more evidence than fans have.

 

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The only team I'd be worried about playing in the playoffs is Swindon. If Northampton or Tranmere have to open up and try to win the game they'll get found out. 

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1 hour ago, OtterVale said:

We may not go up this season, may be the longest spell down here, but remember Carol is rebuilding the club from the ground up after probably the longest spell with idiots owning the club. I am desperate to see the club back to the glory years under Rudgie but I am realistic, the club has made massive strides during very difficult times for everyone, so let’s get behind the lads and roar them onto to success.

1000%

The thought of Carol reading some of these threads breaks my heart.

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3 minutes ago, Iron Curtain said:

1000%

The thought of Carol reading some of these threads breaks my heart.

I believe Carol has more sense than to come on here. Overall we have made progress and had some bad luck. We are still in the chance of play offs and need to get behind the team. I think it is fair to say that the goalkeeper is no better than the other two and that maybe we would be better changing to 4 at the back with the players available, but let's not be too critical as we are having a solid season overall- especially considering where we we were not so long ago. 

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When it comes down to it, beating the teams that currently occupy the playoff spots will be significant for two reasons:

its massively demotivating for one and motivating for the other

the league is so tight that games like that can play musical chairs with the table

4,5,6 and 7 all at home. Come out of them in credit and we’ve got one foot in the post season. Bristol Rovers would be nice to win too.

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52 minutes ago, ginge said:

I believe Carol has more sense than to come on here. Overall we have made progress and had some bad luck. We are still in the chance of play offs and need to get behind the team. I think it is fair to say that the goalkeeper is no better than the other two and that maybe we would be better changing to 4 at the back with the players available, but let's not be too critical as we are having a solid season overall- especially considering where we we were not so long ago. 

Nobody is being critical. But remember we’re talking about getting a decent side together in L2 not winning the Champions League.

Last Saturday was a classic example of L2. A really poor quality game, poor football from both sides and the two genuine bits of quality - the ball in for the first and Gibbon’s cross for the second - have basically won us the game.

The last promotion season we started it off in administration, we set out of tactics to play to our strengths, everybody pulling in the same direction and bosh…. promotion. And you’d hardly have described Tom Pope as a prolific, lethal L2 striker at this level.

Look at Swindon at the start of this season. They didn’t even know if they’d still be in business let alone have enough players to fill the team sheet yet, amazingly, they are above us in the league and played us off the park in one recent game. 

C&K have done amazing work and it would be impossible for us to find better owners than them. Likewise - despite the best efforts of some on here to make something out of nothing earlier - nobody is being critical of DC and are completely respectful of everything that has gone on for him personally (for which he has my deepest, deepest sympathy) and also professionally in terms of injuries, and would be delighted to see him back in the dugout.

That does not however mean people haven’t got to express opinions if performances and/or tactics and/or results and/or table placings are disappointing on a so-called fans forum without being labelled ‘whingers‘, ‘moaners’ or basically saboteurs of everything C&K are trying to do.

When we have now got a more stable environment, and have invested heavily in ‘infrastructure’ like a DoF, multiple coaches, performance analysts and the like plus have again had a good start so expectations will be higher.

Some posters on here seem to think that because we’ve had a season on which relegation has never been an issue that that somehow that constitutes success. Fine if you’re a Crawley, Harrogate, Stevenage (no disrespect) but there’s a lot on here who want a bit more than that.

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14 minutes ago, Biddulph_PV said:

Nobody is being critical. But remember we’re talking about getting a decent side together in L2 not winning the Champions League.

Last Saturday was a classic example of L2. A really poor quality game, poor football from both sides and the two genuine bits of quality - the ball in for the first and Gibbon’s cross for the second - have basically won us the game.

The last promotion season we started it off in administration, we set out of tactics to play to our strengths, everybody pulling in the same direction and bosh…. promotion. And you’d hardly have described Tom Pope as a prolific, lethal L2 striker at this level.

Look at Swindon at the start of this season. They didn’t even know if they’d still be in business let alone have enough players to fill the team sheet yet, amazingly, they are above us in the league and played us off the park in one recent game. 

C&K have done amazing work and it would be impossible for us to find better owners than them. Likewise - despite the best efforts of some on here to make something out of nothing earlier - nobody is being critical of DC and are completely respectful of everything that has gone on for him personally (for which he has my deepest, deepest sympathy) and also professionally in terms of injuries, and would be delighted to see him back in the dugout.

That does not however mean people haven’t got to express opinions if performances and/or tactics and/or results and/or table placings are disappointing on a so-called fans forum without being labelled ‘whingers‘, ‘moaners’ or basically saboteurs of everything C&K are trying to do.

When we have now got a more stable environment, and have invested heavily in ‘infrastructure’ like a DoF, multiple coaches, performance analysts and the like plus have again had a good start so expectations will be higher.

Some posters on here seem to think that because we’ve had a season on which relegation has never been an issue that that somehow that constitutes success. Fine if you’re a Crawley, Harrogate, Stevenage (no disrespect) but there’s a lot on here who want a bit more than that.

A excellent post BPV really well put , 

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