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Match Thread: Harrogate Town v Port Vale


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Smith will never bring more quality to his game. This is it for him. He's 350 games deep into his career. 
He's a good defense-first player. That's all we're getting. 
People will see this as a knock against him. It isn't - he's just not a player you want on the ball. 
First thing you've said all season that I actually agree with! He is absolutely awful on the ball. Shocking, really.
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2 minutes ago, Joe B said:

Robinson, Charsley, Cooper, Holy, and Harratt have had minimal impact. 

Hall has been good. Edmonson OK (3 in 9 is no more than that). Hussey fine (though we looked much better after he was subbed).

Not good enough. 

Unfair on Harratt IMO. Not had a lot of minutes and his energy gives us a lot. Other than that, fully agree. I don't get the Charsley or Holy signings.

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7 minutes ago, Joe B said:

Garrity is a 10. No point playing him as a sitting mid as he can't trap or pass a ball. He's a good player, just much further forward than he's being played now. His touches should basically be very near to the box or inside it, and nowhere else.

We looked miles better as soon as Hussey was subbed. He has brought something but I'm not sure it was what we needed. Hall continues to look the only January signing who has definitely 'improved' on where we were before. 

He’s an excellent runner but he has to be, he’s always chasing his 1st, 2nd and 3rd touch.

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6 minutes ago, philmpv said:

Going against the grain, I thought we pretty much dominated them tonight, and played some good stuff, particularly in the second half. We didn't create many clear cut chances, but we were well worthy of the point, and probably 3. Cooper and Wilson were my bright sparks tonight. Both played very well,,particularly Wilson when he was coming deeper in the second half. Now unbeaten in 9, 6 points off 3rd with at least 1 game in hand on all but 2. Don't get the 'season over' comments, yet again.

No chance we deserved 3 there. They had a few decent opportunities 2nd half up until around the 60th minute. We have to start winning games like this. We won’t make the play offs drawing to poor sides every week. Well worthy of the point I agree and I think we shaded it but I don’t think we deserved 3. Sides above us in Exeter and Mansfield have 2/3 games in hand and even a game in hand on us. I think when we play those; that will decide our season - but we really do need to put away sides like this. 

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Just now, Vale1995 said:

I actually thought that was the best weve played in a long while. Thought cooper looked excellent. Extremely unlucky not to take the 3 points

What did we create to deserve 3? Very worthy of a point but not 3. First half was awful. I’d say they created more than us, good goal from Edmondson and a cracking effort from Wilson but I don’t think that’s worthy of 3 imo 

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6 minutes ago, Joe B said:

Smith will never bring more quality to his game. This is it for him. He's 350 games deep into his career. 

He's a good defense-first player. That's all we're getting. 

People will see this as a knock against him. It isn't - he's just not a player you want on the ball. 

I mentioned Smith specifically as I believe his distribution used to be better and he was prepared to bring the ball under control and try and play. This season in particular he is rushed and has almost employed a safety first ethos. He attempted one bit of ball control in the first half and his second touch was a possession saving tackle, I though we'd seen the last of that when Legge left. 

Is it a confidence thing or is it as you say, the best we're going to get?

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Good points for me- Plenty of effort, great away support, we came back from a goal down, good goal, great effort from Wilson.

Improvements required- Holy's distribution, Walker can't play CB, vulnerable to pace, dead balls we have specialists but frustrating delivery at times, still need to get more out of Wilson as a good touch player, can't finish teams off, Pett indifferent for a few games, Amoo before Cooper.

Disappointed but we go again.

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5 minutes ago, johnjeffersfanclub said:

Unfair on Harratt IMO. Not had a lot of minutes and his energy gives us a lot. Other than that, fully agree. I don't get the Charsley or Holy signings.

That's my point. He's not had a lot of minutes in a side that doesn't score much. No impact. He started brightly but hasn't featured since. 

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2 minutes ago, valiant_593 said:

What did we create to deserve 3? Very worthy of a point but not 3. First half was awful. I’d say they created more than us, good goal from Edmondson and a cracking effort from Wilson but I don’t think that’s worthy of 3 imo 

Yes we didnt create a load of clear chances but thought our general play was excellent we looked really comfortable bar a ten min spell for them. We got into really dangerous positions numerous times and played a lot of balls into decent areas. Thought out of the two teams we were good for the three points

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15 minutes ago, philmpv said:
16 minutes ago, Biddulph_PV said:
Didn’t bother watching / listening tonight as frankly I decided tossing pancakes with the kids would be more entertaining. 
It sounds like a continuation from Saturday which was one of the worst footballing displays I’ve seen for some time. As others have said no creativity, no pace, no pattern of play. It is literally hit and run.

Got a strong opinion on tonight for somebody who hasn't watched it.

Is that a strong opinion on tonight?? Or is it a more general reflection on what I’ve witnessed more recently and expect from the team picked. 

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