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10 hours ago, bertiepee said:

400 short then, for me we have a great home support in this division with very little away support to boost the average home attendance 

Totally agree. Stevenage bringing 74 fans yesterday was laughable.

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45 minutes ago, Aguar61 said:

Totally agree. Stevenage bringing 74 fans yesterday was laughable.

Stevenage are a club I don't like. The behaviour of their team was much improved from some of the injury faking tactics of the past. I suppose they were behind and didn't want to waste time! But there are many teams within commute to work distance for Port Vale who have gone out of the league and we have this lot of timewasters instead - think Wrexham, Bury, Notts County, Macclesfield, Chesterfield et al. 

And yes, 74 on a Saturday is really, really poor. On a Tuesday night it's still 100 short of reasonable.

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8 minutes ago, valiant_593 said:

One thing I will agree with is Jones and Benning. Especially Jones. Where is he? One of our best players now not even on the bench. Benning is good enough for the bench as well. Jones should be starting IMO

Jones last game at Vale Park was his worst. He gave the ball away loads. Hall has come in and done really well, Smith is on the other side doing well and the centre now has Walker who in theory can pass the ball. Well as a team yesterday I saw inaccurate ball passing! But earlier in the season Jones was one of our best players and so I hope we can still use him effectively at some point. It doesn't take much to get dropped from this team by the management. But that doesn't mean they actually solve the issue a player gets dropped for because they would need universally better players across the squad to do that. Benning needs to show me more than he has when in the team. 

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Amazing how players who are out of the side gradually become far better without playing.
Perhaps some would like a rule change to 15 a side to fit in all their heroes . 

We’re unbeaten in 8 , conceding very few , clean sheet yesterday yet some want  Jones , Benning , Hall , Hussey , Gibbo etc all in the side at the same time…. interesting line up ?!

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1 minute ago, ValeGez said:

Amazing how players who are out of the side gradually become far better without playing.
Perhaps some would like a rule change to 15 a side to fit in all their heroes . 

We’re unbeaten in 8 , conceding very few , clean sheet yesterday yet some want  Jones , Benning , Hall , Hussey , Gibbo etc all in the side at the same time…. interesting line up ?!

Wouldn’t be that odd would it? Gibbons, hussey, hall, Jones and smith? Not exactly an odd back line. In the case of Jones he was one of our best players. Looks pretty strong to me? 

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17 minutes ago, valiant_593 said:

Wouldn’t be that odd would it? Gibbons, hussey, hall, Jones and smith? Not exactly an odd back line. In the case of Jones he was one of our best players. Looks pretty strong to me? 

Not bad at all if needs be but the rest of the line up would be interesting .

Some other favourites would have to make way plus Conlon / Taylor to consider on their return for the creativity people are craving . 
Jones was one of our best players but had a drop in standards leading to the stupid sending off at Newport , now has to bide his time to get the shirt back as others have .
All I’m pointing out is we can’t play everyone , although some seem to think we can . We’ve got plenty of good players ,unfortunately some have to miss out , the management pick what they think is best , they know far more than we’ll ever do about what goes on day to day .

As the saying goes ‘you can keep some of the people happy for some of the time ‘ etc etc , opinions are opinions until they don’t suit others . 
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20 minutes ago, ValeGez said:

Not bad at all if needs be but the rest of the line up would be interesting .

Some other favourites would have to make way plus Conlon / Taylor to consider on their return for the creativity people are craving . 
Jones was one of our best players but had a drop in standards leading to the stupid sending off at Newport , now has to bide his time to get the shirt back as others have .
All I’m pointing out is we can’t play everyone , although some seem to think we can . We’ve got plenty of good players ,unfortunately some have to miss out , the management pick what they think is best , they know far more than we’ll ever do about what goes on day to day .

As the saying goes ‘you can keep some of the people happy for some of the time ‘ etc etc , opinions are opinions until they don’t suit others . 
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I agree. I just find it odd that Jones is one missing out given how good he was earlier in the season. Players like Benning haven’t been great but to not see him on the bench for weeks I just find a little odd. Presume he will leave in the summer. I imagine the likes of Charsley will be out of the squad when Conlon is back. Not sure on Taylor he’s another I have a feeling they’re not too keen on. Didn’t think it was a red at Newport personally either. I get him having to wait his chance, but not to be in the squad when fit is a bit odd Imo. 

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4 minutes ago, valiant_593 said:

I agree. I just find it odd that Jones is one missing out given how good he was earlier in the season. Players like Benning haven’t been great but to not see him on the bench for weeks I just find a little odd. Presume he will leave in the summer. I imagine the likes of Charsley will be out of the squad when Conlon is back. Not sure on Taylor he’s another I have a feeling they’re not too keen on. Didn’t think it was a red at Newport personally either. I get him having to wait his chance, but not to be in the squad when fit is a bit odd Imo. 

Anyone know if he has a knock / covid / injury?

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My view is all posters on this thread are in a way right.

Yes we are on an unbeaten run.

Yes we could be in automatics if we win games in hand.

Yes we have had terrible injuries to 'star' players (yesterday showed just how much we have missed Gibbo)

But the opening poster is right. Vale are a hard watch at the minute. Not sure if it's negative tactics, average players or the pitch.

What I hope we can all agree on is .... We have been too long in this league and we need out, and thanks to brilliant owners it will be in the right direction!

 

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40 minutes ago, andy jones said:

My view is all posters on this thread are in a way right.

Yes we are on an unbeaten run.

Yes we could be in automatics if we win games in hand.

Yes we have had terrible injuries to 'star' players (yesterday showed just how much we have missed Gibbo)

But the opening poster is right. Vale are a hard watch at the minute. Not sure if it's negative tactics, average players or the pitch.

What I hope we can all agree on is .... We have been too long in this league and we need out, and thanks to brilliant owners it will be in the right direction!

 

they never mentioned us being a hard watch. They said Hussey was a waste of a wage and asked what has happened to this team? Apparently nothing between us and Stevenage (apart from the goals). We might well be a hard watch (Due to work etc I have only watched us vs FGR recently which I thought was an entertaining game as it happens) but football is a results business not an entertainment business. Yes it's nice to watch some free flowing attacking football week in week out but it is league 2 ffs and I don't think our pitch is conducive to that at the moment. To start a thread when we are unbeaten for 6 weeks, 9th in the form table and only conceded 5 goals in the last 9 games makes the fan base look a bit daft and we could leave looking daft to Stoke fans. 

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On 27/02/2022 at 05:01, RayWalkers40yarder said:

no it isnt attention seeking much as you point out . i guess youre in that class of person that spends all his/her time on social media virtue signalling huh?

Where's the virtue-signalling in defending a player in the team I love? If you have to resort to name-calling just because somebody posts an opinion opposite to yours, and you have to defend yourself like this, it's you that has a problem! With free speech - as has been pointed out on here before - you can always state your opinion...but expect others to express their opinions on yours - free speech goes both ways! I think your original opinion is crass, stupid, attention-seeking, ignorant and just plain wrong...just my opinion, obviously! 

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On 27/02/2022 at 05:06, RayWalkers40yarder said:

it is when we have dan jones gibbo and mal benning who all offer much more. yes hes an experienced player who has played at a higher level but he offers nothing bar the odd decent cross in to the box. and even that was missing today. so yes its a wasted wage.

Sad to say Mal Benning, based on what we’ve seen, does not offer more than Hussey.  You’ve completely lost your argument by including him.  Gibbo is ideally our RWB.  Dan Jones has predominantly played as the left sided CB in the 3 and was decent there apart from a bit of a wobble in the couple of games prior to his sending off.  From memory he hasn’t set the world on fire at LWB.

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1 hour ago, Guitar Ray said:

Sad to say Mal Benning, based on what we’ve seen, does not offer more than Hussey.  You’ve completely lost your argument by including him.  Gibbo is ideally our RWB.  Dan Jones has predominantly played as the left sided CB in the 3 and was decent there apart from a bit of a wobble in the couple of games prior to his sending off.  From memory he hasn’t set the world on fire at LWB.

Gibbos arguably been player of the season playing out of position on the left and he’s looked at home there despite it being his supposed weaker side. IMO he’s offered more on that side than hussey has and to drop gibbo as soon as hussey came in was a strange decision from the manager.  I didn’t understand that at all. To my eyes we are a weaker side with gibbo missing, throw proctor and conlon in to the mix too as players essential to the way we play. 

But that’s gone now, the run in is going to be interesting as Crosby has to find a way of utilising gibbo, Worrall and hussey. I suspect he may rotate them given that we are playing statues at Tuesday for the majority of the next 2 months. 

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5 hours ago, PV1973 said:

Gibbos arguably been player of the season playing out of position on the left and he’s looked at home there despite it being his supposed weaker side. IMO he’s offered more on that side than hussey has and to drop gibbo as soon as hussey came in was a strange decision from the manager.  I didn’t understand that at all. To my eyes we are a weaker side with gibbo missing, throw proctor and conlon in to the mix too as players essential to the way we play. 

But that’s gone now, the run in is going to be interesting as Crosby has to find a way of utilising gibbo, Worrall and hussey. I suspect he may rotate them given that we are playing statues at Tuesday for the majority of the next 2 months. 

Gibbo was, and still is, coming back from serious injury.  Hussey was signed as cover, with speculation at the time being that had Gibbo stayed fit he would’ve been sold.  Suffice to say that Mal Benning had by this time clearly fallen out of favour.  Taken in this context Hussey is a very good signing in my view.

We’ve already seen Gibbo, Wozz and Hussey rotated and there’s no reason why that will change so you’re stating the obvious.

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