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On 23/02/2022 at 17:25, butt lane vale fan said:

Perhaps because he's simply not good enough and far too inconsistent 

I’m not convinced by that. Joint-top number of assists suggests otherwise, no?

In his 18 minutes against Rochdale, for example, he did what no other player had achieved all game.
 

Vale haven’t trounced any opposition  this season, essentially because of the system we play. The wing backs don’t bomb forward too often; Garrity and Pett are very solid but don’t create, neither Conlon or Amoo (10 assists between them) are in the current side, yet we’ve three strikers on the pitch. There’s an inevitable discordance in the game play, and the dull victory over lowly Stevenage demonstrated that. Positive result aside. March will be a very telling month.

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On 23/02/2022 at 17:25, butt lane vale fan said:

Perhaps because he's simply not good enough and far too inconsistent 

Hard to be consistent when you start 1 week dropped the next then play 5, 20 minute spells then start then dropped ect. 

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1 hour ago, Denry Machin said:

I’m not convinced by that. Joint-top number of assists suggests otherwise, no?

In his 18 minutes against Rochdale, for example, he did what no other player had achieved all game.
 

Vale haven’t trounced any opposition  this season, essentially because of the system we play. The wing backs don’t bomb forward too often; Garrity and Pett are very solid but don’t create, neither Conlon or Amoo (10 assists between them) are in the current side, yet we’ve three strikers on the pitch. There’s an inevitable discordance in the game play, and the dull victory over lowly Stevenage demonstrated that. Positive result aside. March will be a very telling month.

Don't Colchester 3-0,Crawley 4-1 and Accrington Stanley 5-1 count as trouncing's any more?

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Amoo should have a big part to play for the rest of the season. He’s probably the only direct and exciting player we have going forward (other than Gibbo who’s a defender). 

I wish we still had Politic. We need that bit of excitement. 

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He wouldn't be in my side, especially when we play 3 4 3. His awareness of others is clear to see. Every time Hussey gets the ball down the wing Amoo runs into his space. Hussey's delivery has been excellent, when Amoo is out of the team. I would only suggest Amoo starts if we pay 4 3 3, when he has looked useful.

He is not a striker. Its not happened for him. You can't, however, fault his effort.

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I am happy he is here. He creates chances. He works hard and is physically strong. It's not use playing him as a target man on his own which is where we were at when we ran out of strikers. Edmondson scored yesterday though and can't argue therefore with his inclusion. But I think there is a point here when I analyse it. 

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Don't Colchester 3-0,Crawley 4-1 and Accrington Stanley 5-1 count as trouncing's any more?

You be careful spouting those…facts. That doesn’t fit the negative stance !

On another thread someone was complaining that we could never score 5 past anyone this season like Swindon .. but we did ! … Accrington !
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6 hours ago, For Us All said:

Don't Colchester 3-0,Crawley 4-1 and Accrington Stanley 5-1 count as trouncing's any more?

I take your point. (Though I was referring to the league more than the FA Cup). But since we’re here: who played the full 90 against Accrington and also came on at HT at Crawley to assist two goals and even bag one himself?

 

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1 hour ago, dazzerjames said:


You be careful spouting those…facts. That doesn’t fit the negative stance !

On another thread someone was complaining that we could never score 5 past anyone this season like Swindon .. but we did ! … Accrington !

It’s not about having a negative stance, it’s about watching games and acknowledging we lack a certain firepower and creativity within our play. The six draws we’ve had in this 8-match unbeaten run confirm that. 
 

And as I mentioned above, Amoo played the full 90 against Accrington and single-handedly changed the game when he came on at HT at Crawley. Sorry for spouting facts.

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Our front three for me should be Proctor, Amoo and Worrall. Wilson on the bench. Amoo is one of the very few players that has a bit of pace in the squad, and certainly at the top end of the pitch.

 

                     Covolan

 Gibbons    Hall   Smith   Hussey

                  Pett    Conlon

                      Garrity

Worrall                               Amoo

                      Proctor

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8 minutes ago, Beech said:

 

Our front three for me should be Proctor, Amoo and Worrall. Wilson on the bench. Amoo is one of the very few players that has a bit of pace in the squad, and certainly at the top end of the pitch.

 

                     Covolan

 Gibbons    Hall   Smith   Hussey

                  Pett    Conlon

                      Garrity

Worrall                               Amoo

                      Proctor

Didnt look good for Wozza as he limped off on Saturday, cant see him featuring for at least a few weeks.

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We should stick with the current formation now. No time time to play twist with a new one. Also, maybe it's the league, but with big teams we need to be able to defend the six yard box and three centre halves well drilled is the way. If I was manager and it was the start of the season I would be a 4 at the back man and have signed the players to do that.

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3 hours ago, Denry Machin said:

It’s not about having a negative stance, it’s about watching games and acknowledging we lack a certain firepower and creativity within our play. The six draws we’ve had in this 8-match unbeaten run confirm that. 
 

And as I mentioned above, Amoo played the full 90 against Accrington and single-handedly changed the game when he came on at HT at Crawley. Sorry for spouting facts.

You are a card our Denry😉

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4 hours ago, The man in the pub said:

Didnt look good for Wozza as he limped off on Saturday, cant see him featuring for at least a few weeks.

I agree . I do hope Worrall get well soon . As vale do need him . To return as soon as possible. 

Good Luck for Tuesday night . We need 3 more points please . 

4 hours ago, The man in the pub said:

Didnt look good for Wozza as he limped off on Saturday, cant see him featuring for at least a few weeks.

 

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Amoo should be getting the shirt now someone said he couldn't play the wing back role and maybe he couldn't but then maybe he could who knows he rarely played in Worralls position all season anyway couldn't we go 4 at the back then he as Gibbons behind him .

His cameo v Rochdale was excellent but that was on the left for Cooper I feel he would be better on the right cause when on his game he is unplayable .

People might say that's not very often but under Askey he was one of the shining lights someone who goes at opposition .

I would play him at Harrogate someone mentioned there is not a lot of pace in our side well he as tons of it and in the games he as played up top he as done a ok job for me at least he stretches the oppositions backline .

I like Amoo 

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I think what Amoo has achieved this season is down to how he has been managed. His influence and impact has been more effective when he has come on from the bench. It would appear he is more effective when he is using his pace against opposition defenders when they are tiring. The truth is, that without Proctor leading the line everyone else who has played up front this season has struggled to hold the ball up and this includes Amoo.

If I think about most of the decent sides we have produced throughout the last 40 years or so they have all fed off good strong ball winning centre forwards, with the likes of Bernie Wright, Ernie Moss, Andy Jones, Darren Beckford, Steve Brooker, Marc Richards and latterly Tom Pope.  The only exception to this was probably during the Foyle era where we had pace in the team, although Foyle was no slouch in holding the ball up. I think what I am trying to say is that if Amoo starts up front, he needs more tools in his bag than just running at defenders. It would appear that out and out wingers have become something of the past at Vale Park.

Whilst not having started many games as he probably would have liked this season, I think that Amoo should be pleased with what he has contributed and achieved so far. 

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