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Match Thread: Rochdale v Port Vale


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2 minutes ago, Joe B said:

I don't know how many times I have to say that we've won 2 games out of 10 and both of those wins were against teams who are in the bottom 2 of professional English football. I think frustration is understandable and inevitable.

I'll mention it again, maybe.

We’ve taken 4 points of Forest Green, beaten Swindon away. No matter how eloquently you try to demean my optimism, it won’t work. We went on a run this time last season that nobody would have predicted, why don’t you believe we can do that? Choose what anyone says, we were not rubbish tonight, I’m pretty sure it was Rochdale’s only shot on target. If you believe we are going to lose, is your disappointment diluted? I would suggest my disappointment is greater believing we can win every game. I’m happy to remain in my naive dream land, believing in my team. I’ll avoid the cynicism or realism as some might call it. 

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8 minutes ago, Joe B said:

I don't think the older fans can quite grasp this.

 

I  think we can. We've seen it all. And what is your definition of "old". I'm 57 is that "old".  I can't "grasp it"? I can call out a rubbish performance when I see one.

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Pathetic! To try and waste time and "see the game out" with 20 minutes to go when only 1 0 up. We got what we deserved. 

The players clearly have holidays booked in May and don't want the play offs! 

Yet another mediocre mid table finish to come in the basement division. 

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Just now, Beech said:

 

We've not recovered from that month or so where we didn't kick a ball in the league. Performances since then, Carlisle apart, have been nowhere near early season performances where we were creating tons of chances and scoring lots of goals despite often not being anything like clinical. It just all feels a bit safe and workmanlike at the moment, and has done for many weeks. We just haven't replaced Politic who gave us something different, especially from the bench, which certainly hasn't helped.

It’s as if everything is too safe and we are scared of throwing it away. Then low and behold we go and throw it away anyway. You can feel it coming. 

Rather than taking the shackles off and having the mentality of going out and clawing back the lost ground we’ve been too cautious in not wanting to lose any more ground. 

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3 minutes ago, Dr Delgado said:

We’ve taken 4 points of Forest Green, beaten Swindon away. No matter how eloquently you try to demean my optimism, it won’t work. We went on a run this time last season that nobody would have predicted, why don’t you believe we can do that? Choose what anyone says, we were not rubbish tonight, I’m pretty sure it was Rochdale’s only shot on target. If you believe we are going to lose, is your disappointment diluted? I would suggest my disappointment is greater believing we can win every game. I’m happy to remain in my naive dream land, believing in my team. I’ll avoid the cynicism or realism as some might call it. 

The run we went on last season was a freak incident. How many times in the past ten or twenty years have we gone on a run like that? It’s naive to think we’re suddenly going to win 5/6/7 in a row. 

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1 minute ago, SuperHuman said:

The run we went on last season was a freak incident. How many times in the past ten or twenty years have we gone on a run like that? It’s naive to think we’re suddenly going to win 5/6/7 in a row. 

Freak? Did it happen? We’re they trying to win each of them games? 
it was no freak. 
Do you believe we can win on Saturday?

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21 minutes ago, valiant_593 said:

Hate comments like this. We’re fans it’s not our job to decide tactics ect. 

Most of us if you read the comments we’re pretty dissatisfied with the whole performance before their goal so not hindsight. 

We we’re really poor there. it wasn’t one mistake. It was us sitting on a lead again we just don’t learn. Before tonight we had already dropped more from winning positions and it’s clear why. If we won today I can tell you now I wouldn’t be saying fantastic. We were beyond poor against a side that on that performance would make a Sunday league outfit look half decent. We should be able to put sides like this away 3/4 - 0. But we don’t, we don’t create anywhere near enough and haven’t for weeks - since before Christmas(Carlisle aside) 

‘Hate’ is quite a word .

I’m expressing an opinion as you frequently point out when someone disagrees with what you have to say, which is quite often . 
Most people just disagree they don’t ‘hate’ .

We all want the same , success for Vale , unfortunately we’re in League 2 it doesn’t come easy and it’s not guaranteed. 

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No doubt we'll set up with three centre backs against Stevenage on Saturday and scrape another draw against another <ovf censored> team. They've got a -20 goal difference. We'd better play cautious, boring, defensive, predictable football again. 

🙄😴 

 

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Shame with the outcome. We really controlled the game and I really enjoyed watching it. The passing, tempo etc were all spot on. However did we actually, honestly look like scoring another goal in the second half? We had a few good chances, Worrall driving the ball at the keeper stood out and Wilson at the end,  but it wasn’t clear cut. Yet we all the possession and dominance, we should have scored more. 
 

I used to believe and have for years felt that it was a simple case of buying decent, proven strikers.  At the moment I tend to feel by the standards of the best teams and certainly league 1 level, we don’t have any creative players or those who come up with wow moments thinking “where did that come from?”.

The two guys who have done that on occasion are Politic, now left and Conlon, but that was a while back since his last magic moment. 

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6 minutes ago, Beech said:

 

We've not recovered from that month or so where we didn't kick a ball in the league. Performances since then, Carlisle apart, have been nowhere near early season performances where we were creating tons of chances and scoring lots of goals despite often not being anything like clinical. It just all feels a bit safe and workmanlike at the moment, and has done for many weeks. We just haven't replaced Politic who gave us something different, especially from the bench, which certainly hasn't helped.

We had Cass and Jones playing early season that was a massive difference , we have no drive or pace anymore , looking like another disappointing season , poor tactics at the moment poor recruitment in January (Hall aside ) 

 

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1 minute ago, SuperHuman said:

It’s as if everything is too safe and we are scared of throwing it away. Then low and behold we go and throw it away anyway. You can feel it coming. 

Rather than taking the shackles off and having the mentality of going out and clawing back the lost ground we’ve been too cautious in not wanting to lose any more ground. 

That’s why I got lambasted on Saturday for saying I felt it was ‘must-win’. The 6-pointers against the top 3 protagonists are so important if we want to be in the mix. Ok we draw against all three, but we might as well have gone for it against FGR who are too far clear (instead we did absolutely nothing 2nd half) and maybe Northampton and we might have won one and lost one, so wouldn’t have been in any worse a position going into Tranmere. Draws are absolutely no use whatsoever now, I really cannot understand the mentally of being defensive when we simply cannot keep clean sheets.

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1 minute ago, ValeGez said:

‘Hate’ is quite a word .

I’m expressing an opinion as you frequently point out when someone disagrees with what you have to say, which is quite often . 
Most people just disagree they don’t ‘hate’ .

We all want the same , success for Vale , unfortunately we’re in League 2 it doesn’t come easy and it’s not guaranteed. 

It’s a comment I don’t like seeing, sorry if hate seems strong but it frustrates me when fans come out with ‘you do better then’ it’s not our job to do that. 

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Absolutely gutted. Heart beat never rose at all during the game as they had nothing. Vale defence and midfield good but nothing up front. Wozza an Wilson should have sealed the victory. About time that Wilson started using his weaker foot better. Thought he had enough to get ball onto his left foot and score easily. Seem to make hard work of bottom teams. Can only see a narrow win on Saturday. Great squad of players and should be in automatics by now. Who was marking scorer?

Why was Gibbons taking corners when he was dying to get off to have a dump?

 

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26 minutes ago, ValeGez said:

Some pathetic comments on here ! 
We weren’t dire, we did enough to win the game, they scored with their one and only chance just be realistic it’s football it happens ! 
All the total negative comments from the usuals on here, there’s nothing in between with some of you , if we win we’re fantastic if we lose we’re absolute rubbish !! 
Totally surprised why some spend so much time on here you should be plotting your way to the Champions League Final with all your superior tactical knowledge! 
It’s League 2 , get over yourselves and back your team to do their best . 
One mistake has cost us, it’s unfortunate, it’s not the end of the the world ! 
Easy to criticise after the event, too many ‘Captain Hindsights’ on here  , try doing the job yourselves, oh yeh right , you wouldn’t know where to start !!

UTV 

Thats football I'm afraid, it gets emotional and it deals with human frailties......... It's also bloody frustrating. 

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15 minutes ago, Sandyford_Lion said:

One defensive mistake may have cost us, together with several attacking and goalscoring mistakes too. Score more than one and you get away with a defensive mistake.

I agree there - If Wilson had scored 30 seconds before they did then we were home and dry - but thats football, - and we weren't grumbling when we did it in the 94th minute on Saturday - its all part and parcel of supporting a team and we love it (I think) 🤣

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5 minutes ago, TJHValiant said:

Shame with the outcome. We really controlled the game and I really enjoyed watching it. The passing, tempo etc were all spot on. However did we actually, honestly look like scoring another goal in the second half? We had a few good chances, Worrall driving the ball at the keeper stood out and Wilson at the end,  but it wasn’t clear cut. Yet we all the possession and dominance, we should have scored more. 
 

I used to believe and have for years felt that it was a simple case of buying decent, proven strikers.  At the moment I tend to feel by the standards of the best teams and certainly league 1 level, we don’t have any creative players or those who come up with wow moments thinking “where did that come from?”.

The two guys who have done that on occasion are Politic, now left and Conlon, but that was a while back since his last magic moment. 

Thats what Cass and Jones gave us for three months. Their attacking runs forced our midfield to push forward and make runs. Its a poor midfield five, including Worral and a left sided player and offer very little goal threat. This means the front two need to be 20 goals each for us to be up there

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