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13 hours ago, philmpv said:

Weirdly, this continues the run that we haven't won in the League yet when Legges played!

Not sure what game you watched, but the goals were not down to Legge.  He was doing his job and putting his body in everywhere.  Try looking at the midfield for letting players waltz passed them and other defenders for going missing.

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1 hour ago, connor hackett said:

Not only have we got forward players missing, we are weaker in other positions because we're trying to cover those roles. Garrity has done brilliant further forward, but it means one of our best players this season is missing from the engine room. Garrity does a lot of the hard miles for Conlon and Pett. Which in turn means, both Conlon and Pett are being asked to cover on different areas of the pitch. This isn't a criticism of the team, it's just how it is at the moment, having strikers missing also disrupts the midfield. It's frustrating but hopefully we can get a couple of our wingers back for Saturday and bit by bit we can start to rebalance the middle. I've got nothing but praise for the team yesterday, they are digging in and battling, but no one should be criticising the boys whilst we're forced to play with one hand behind our backs. When we get players back, we will romp to promotion, im very confident.

I agree although losing yesterday was not great only yesterday and V Walsall have the performances being underwhelming. 

Still over the season we are doing great just negative about yesterday and Walsall game every other game we have generally being very good and we deservedly 3rd the thing is I've never seen Vale win a league I'd like see if before I take my last breathe  

Hope you are right 

UTV 

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Not sure what game you watched, but the goals were not down to Legge.  He was doing his job and putting his body in everywhere.  Try looking at the midfield for letting players waltz passed them and other defenders for going missing.
I didn't say they were. In fact, I've praised legge earlier in the thread for his defensive performance, if not his distribution. Just pointing out a fact

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7 hours ago, Breadwinner said:

I agree although losing yesterday was not great only yesterday and V Walsall have the performances being underwhelming. 

Still over the season we are doing great just negative about yesterday and Walsall game every other game we have generally being very good and we deservedly 3rd the thing is I've never seen Vale win a league I'd like see if before I take my last breathe  

Hope you are right 

UTV 

We played a good side yesterday who are on form, they'd lost 1 in 11 in the league and no doubt buoyed by a last minute winner in in their previous home game vs Sutton.

I was hoping that we'd have either Worrall, Rodney or both available but when I saw the team I feared the worst.

We had a completely makeshift side out there yesterday, many of the players bought in have had limited minutes so we were bound to tire as the game went on.  We grabbed a goal against the run of play and most of the people around me were almost in a sense of shock that we'd grabbed a goal and would've taken a draw then.

I was disappointed with their 1st goal though, we seemed to lose concentration but on the balance of play we'd have been lucky to hold out for the draw.

 

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Whilst credit is due for the quality of the finishing for their 2 goals I think we have to be critical of our defending for both.  Especially the second goal where their guy had all the time in the world to compose himself for the shot.

We’re not keeping clean sheets and, until we get the strikers back in the team at least, we need to tighten up defensively from where we are at the moment.

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2 hours ago, Breadwinner said:

I agree although losing yesterday was not great only yesterday and V Walsall have the performances being underwhelming. 

Still over the season we are doing great just negative about yesterday and Walsall game every other game we have generally being very good and we deservedly 3rd the thing is I've never seen Vale win a league I'd like see if before I take my last breathe  

Hope you are right 

UTV 

good longevity be with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!😄

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17 hours ago, philmpv said:

Weirdly, this continues the run that we haven't won in the League yet when Legges played!

 

2 hours ago, philmpv said:
3 hours ago, PVFC764 said:
Not sure what game you watched, but the goals were not down to Legge.  He was doing his job and putting his body in everywhere.  Try looking at the midfield for letting players waltz passed them and other defenders for going missing.

I didn't say they were. In fact, I've praised legge earlier in the thread for his defensive performance, if not his distribution. Just pointing out a fact

 It is just a coincidence that Legge playing we loose rather than winning.  Feel this is down to some defence and midfield errors rather than Legge being the problem.  As you say Legge has played well and been solid.  It will change soon.

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22 hours ago, LancyTony said:

We've played 8 of the other 9 teams in the top 10 with W4 D1 L3, and having given games away. We're 3rd on merit!

Can't disagree, the table speaks for itself.  However I was disappointed that had we held on to our lead, we would have been 2nd and 5 points clear of the fourth placed team.  As it is now, we are only one point ahead-quite a difference at this stage!

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3 minutes ago, Bycarsbill said:

Can't disagree, the table speaks for itself.  However I was disappointed that had we held on to our lead, we would have been 2nd and 5 points clear of the fourth placed team.  As it is now, we are only one point ahead-quite a difference at this stage!

Think you got your maths wrong there bill, surely with an extra 3 points we would be 4 ahead of 4th placed team.

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 It is just a coincidence that Legge playing we loose rather than winning.  Feel this is down to some defence and midfield errors rather than Legge being the problem.  As you say Legge has played well and been solid.  It will change soon.
Whilst I'll tentatively agree with you for now, it possibly isn't as simple as saying Legge played well so it's not his fault. There will come a point where we may have to look beyond his individual performance and question whether his presence is actually affecting the team. As others have pointed out, when he plays, our defensive line is much further back to compensate for his lack of pace and mobility. Also, his distribution is woeful, by and large, and his continued attempts at those Hollywood balls out of defence are just lumps forward which gift the ball back to the oppo. Finally, with Legge you are going to get a man who wins most of the long balls into the box, but such is his desire to win the ball, he neglects to think about where it's going to go (usually straight back to them). It was the same with Pope. Individually, he could score in a very prescribed set of circumstances (deep floated pinpoint cross to the back post) but his lack of any mobility pace other ways to score etc had a detrimental impact on the team itself and quality of football. We could only play 1 way and had 1 game plan when he played. If, as was usually the case, our crossing was shocking, we created zilch and didn't score. This season proves so far how important it is to have different skillsets and ways of scoring to be successful rather than rely on a single way. There's a place for Legge, I'm just not convinced that it's starting games.
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With regards to Legge being in the side and losing. I think it is more to do with the fact that we don't have Cass and Jones playing either side of him. We offer a lot more going forward as both are comfortable taking the ball out from the back. He is also often on when one of the usual wing backs isn't on.

Also I don't think we are currently endearing ourselves to the officials. We time waste from early in games and the keeper has been down injured more often than every other keeper I have ever seen play combined. Refs try to be impartial but are less likely to give us the benefit of the doubt when we spend the entire game taking the micky. We will be getting a reputation.

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Unless you were at VP in 1959 you won't have, so probably over 70s might remember. 
Obviously a great experience, but you are in the same league as the PO winner in the next season. 59 was a promotion run with the top spot safe in April, whereas 54 was safe at Xmas with a 5 or 6 win gap. FGR are currently enjoying it.

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3rd in league missing key players for quite a few games. How many of these players are in our first 11?

Top of the league lost twice all season, one of them against us. 

I think we all would have took this at the start of the season, surely?! 

Were going up! 

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