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Match Thread: Port Vale v Hartlepool United


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27 minutes ago, Doha said:

There's this daft pseudoscience thing called manifest thinking where it's claimed you can simply will something so much it becomes true.

 

Not woken up in bed  with Debbie Harry yet. I'll be willing Rodders on. He's ow reet. He's not moved on but give the lad a break, get behind the lad not boo. The Lorne were booing him before he touched the friggin ball.

Give the bloke a break. 

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I think we treat Rodney harsher because we all know what he can do. At the start of the season he was a nailed on starter after a great season last season, and honestly at the start if you said Wilson and proctor are out but we still have Rodney I’d have thought we would be ok. However so far, for whatever reason he’s been doing his best impression of Theo Robinson. I can cut amoo some slack up top, but Rodney should be doing better. His hold up play was ok at times and was against Walsall as well, but DC needs to tell him to stay in the box, Worrall, cass and amoo down the right first had numerous opportunities to cross but had nobody in there. 

Always thought he’s better out wide but he needs to show what he can do, I’m hoping each game gets him fitter and fitter, but I did think he was our weakest player today. 
 

One thing I will say is that a few games ago there was literally no effort from him, he at least tried today so that’s something. I think he’s a massive confidence player (and amoo) I think if he can bag one he will get a few 

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44 minutes ago, Jacko51 said:

OK.  Being a bloke everything you said was absolutely right and I clearly was wrong to even suggest there was an alternative view.  Happy now???

Going from bad to worse, Jacko. The implication of your remark is that my comments are somehow disingenuous when they were intended to point out the flaws in your argument. If you aren't able to evidence your arguments, of course I'm going to point it out. How you respond is of course up to you.   

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3 minutes ago, CambridgeDon said:

Going from bad to worse, Jacko. The implication of your remark is that my comments are somehow disingenuous when they were intended to point out the flaws in your argument. If you aren't able to evidence your arguments, of course I'm going to point it out. How you respond is of course up to you.   

STFU yeah? No-one's interested.

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28 minutes ago, toyahw said:

Not woken up in bed  with Debbie Harry yet. I'll be willing Rodders on. He's ow reet. He's not moved on but give the lad a break, get behind the lad not boo. The Lorne were booing him before he touched the friggin ball.

Give the bloke a break. 

You are right. We can be far too quick to turn on players. I think it was against Rochdale early on he was getting absolute pelters in the railway after a few bad touches, it was a bit odd, like we'd been waiting for it.

He's the main outlet now though for at least 5/6 weeks so it's now or never to start delivering. Played much better today.

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20 minutes ago, valiant_593 said:

I think we treat Rodney harsher because we all know what he can do. At the start of the season he was a nailed on starter after a great season last season, and honestly at the start if you said Wilson and proctor are out but we still have Rodney I’d have thought we would be ok. However so far, for whatever reason he’s been doing his best impression of Theo Robinson. I can cut amoo some slack up top, but Rodney should be doing better. His hold up play was ok at times and was against Walsall as well, but DC needs to tell him to stay in the box, Worrall, cass and amoo down the right first had numerous opportunities to cross but had nobody in there. 

Always thought he’s better out wide but he needs to show what he can do, I’m hoping each game gets him fitter and fitter, but I did think he was our weakest player today. 
 

One thing I will say is that a few games ago there was literally no effort from him, he at least tried today so that’s something. I think he’s a massive confidence player (and amoo) I think if he can bag one he will get a few 

 

Rodney will come good. One goal is probably all it will take to turn for him hopefully. But nobody can say anything other then he's been really, really poor this season as of yet. Some people still talk about him as if he's an 18 or 19 year old prospect.

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18 minutes ago, valiant_593 said:

I think we treat Rodney harsher because we all know what he can do. At the start of the season he was a nailed on starter after a great season last season, and honestly at the start if you said Wilson and proctor are out but we still have Rodney I’d have thought we would be ok. However so far, for whatever reason he’s been doing his best impression of Theo Robinson. I can cut amoo some slack up top, but Rodney should be doing better. His hold up play was ok at times and was against Walsall as well, but DC needs to tell him to stay in the box, Worrall, cass and amoo down the right first had numerous opportunities to cross but had nobody in there. 

Always thought he’s better out wide but he needs to show what he can do, I’m hoping each game gets him fitter and fitter, but I did think he was our weakest player today. 
 

One thing I will say is that a few games ago there was literally no effort from him, he at least tried today so that’s something. I think he’s a massive confidence player (and amoo) I think if he can bag one he will get a few 

I'd agree with some of that. I think he's doing what DC is asking of him and it can be quite frustrating, in the same way that England retaining possession by knocking it sideways and back is frustrating. He's not as gung-ho with charging forward as he was last season but I think his game has changed under the new management. Some on here - not necessarily yourself - can't wait to catcall the guy and it's a pretty unlikable trait of some Vale fans. Even when he's done well, he generally gets the lowest mark on that squad scoring thing that's usually over there >

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Another cracking example of how football fans don’t help themselves.

It was said before the game on radio Stoke, can’t remember who by, that Devante Rodney is the type of player who needs to feel the feel the love to be confident and play well.

I would be willing to bet that if the crowd collectively got behind him and supported him and encouraged him he would benefit massively and get his confidence back.

Would that be good for him - yes

Would that be good for the vale - yes

Would that be good for the fans - yes

Will the fans do it - no, the opposite in fact

 

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Must admit, I didn’t hear any booing at Rodney either. Not saying it didn’t happen. Maybe it was because I had my hood on all game.

IMO if we have aspirations of promotion, I’m afraid at the moment Rodders isn’t the answer.

As I said previously, how long do we wait for him to find form? Especially with Wilson and Proctor out?

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Rodney has recently had a baby so we don't know what's going on in his life currently.

It might be linked to his performances. It might not. He might not be getting much sleep. He might be supporting his partner more than usual. He might be going through a rough time personally. We don't know.

He hasn't become a bad player overnight though.

Like others have said, he probably just needs our support more than ever. And needs a goal more than ever.

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