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8 minutes ago, Jacko51 said:

Can't agree with your crass stupidity comment.  Proctor had been out for five weeks and had been in training.  He came on for 20 minutes the other night which is a reasonable action to take when bringing a player back from injury.  I think he was just unlucky.

Also a different injury - so could have happened at any time?

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10 minutes ago, Jacko51 said:

Can't agree with your crass stupidity comment.  Proctor had been out for five weeks and had been in training.  He came on for 20 minutes the other night which is a reasonable action to take when bringing a player back from injury.  I think he was just unlucky.

He blatantly wasn’t ready. Was clear as day from just how he ran on the pitch. 100% rushed back imo. 

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Pleasing to see several good individual performances today, and everyone was at least steady, but no hiding from the fact that Hartlepool were dire and we’re going to face far better teams in the upcoming games.  We really need Rod and Amoo to find their shooting boots.

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1 hour ago, pete vale said:

Serious problems up top without Wilson and Proctor. Amoo should be out wide, Rodney through the middle. What is wrong with Devante, something is? Hope he works through things. Where was Politic?  Well short tbh and deserately in need of a 'proven' striker on loan.

Today Gibbons, Pett and garrity were great

Totally agree with your assessment. And, like you, I am at a loss as to what's the problem (or problems) surrounding Devante.  After an impressive last season, I was really looking forward to seeing him progress during this one. Hopefully there's still time for him to blossom. We need someone to take up the slack up front!

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18 minutes ago, Jacko51 said:

Five weeks?  Rushed?  

For normal hernia surgery, one to two weeks; for sports people six to twelve weeks, which was the basis of my comment. 

So much for crass stupidity

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2 minutes ago, CambridgeDon said:

For normal hernia surgery, one to two weeks; for sports people six to twelve weeks 

So much for crass stupidity

For Alan Shearer 10 days.

The time frame for getting back to normal activity is around six to twelve weeks, a very wide margin. Being in good shape before your surgery can help decrease that time, but everyone is different, and every sports hernia injury is different.

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17 minutes ago, Jacko51 said:

Five weeks?  Rushed?  

It was clear he was rushed back, yeah he probably got injured which wasnt connected to the previous inury but he looked off the pace completely before then.  There is no way if Wilson or Lloyd had been fit that he would have been on the bench.  For me we should not have been taking any chances with such an important player when so many matches between now and the New Year.

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5 minutes ago, Jacko51 said:

For Alan Shearer 10 days.

The time frame for getting back to normal activity is around six to twelve weeks, a very wide margin. Being in good shape before your surgery can help decrease that time, but everyone is different, and every sports hernia injury is different.

Selective quote. From the article I researched, which you quoted:

"When you’re on the road to recovery from a sports hernia injury, it can be tempting to shoot ahead or hang back, but taking it step by step will help ensure that you recover fully from your surgery and get back in the game."

Clearly we shot ahead.

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7 minutes ago, valefan79 said:

It was clear he was rushed back, yeah he probably got injured which wasnt connected to the previous inury but he looked off the pace completely before then.  There is no way if Wilson or Lloyd had been fit that he would have been on the bench.  For me we should not have been taking any chances with such an important player when so many matches between now and the New Year.

You are both making assumptions about the state of Proctor's recovery.  We don't know how serious the hernia was, where it was located, what was the nature of the surgery he had or owt else about it.  The management have shown with other players that they have been very careful bringing players back from injury - look how they've managed Gibbons for example - so I don't believe for one moment that Proctor was rushed back.  They have not done it with any other player.

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Just now, CambridgeDon said:

Selective quote. From the article I researched, which you quoted:

"When you’re on the road to recovery from a sports hernia injury, it can be tempting to shoot ahead or hang back, but taking it step by step will help ensure that you recover fully from your surgery and get back in the game."

Clearly we shot ahead.

Selective quote again!  As my quote said, everyone is different, so perhaps step by step for Proctor saw him ready to play 20 minutes on Tuesday.  The collision with the keeper which has caused the other problem was just unlucky.

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Just back from the game/pub. Not a great performance by any stretch but will take 3 points.

Hartlepool = awful. Second worst side I’ve seen all season.

As an aside: Great to see the almighty Walsall doing so well. Well done to Walsall players for playing so well against Vale (not really you were terrible) and then putting promotion pushing Carlisle to the sword. Clarke’s at the wheel!

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Proctor coming on was a desperate roll of the dice that's failed miserably.

Thought we were poor today but they were shockingly bad. Johnson surprised me in a good way, hopefully he's turned a corner now after a shaky start. Garrity and Gibbo also good.

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