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Legge getting more and more like Maldini the longer he's out !! 
Whilst he has a part to play and was playing well can we remember with him in the side we drew every game. He only played 3 times before his injury. 
I like Legge and we needed him particularly at Sutton but let's not go all doe eyed that he's something he isn't. 
We've never conceded any headed goals when Legges played don't you know
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Really enjoyed the game yesterday despite us not picking up the 3 points. Yes we were a little shoddy at times giving the ball away but we created a number of chances and always looked capable of winning it.

Shame Wilson picked up the injury as it made our subs look a little puzzling. Ideally I would have swapped Wilson with Rodney leaving Garrity on as he was still giving them no space in midfield. We could then have brought some height on at the back to defend the lead. That game had 1-0 written all over it. After the equaliser we could then have brought on Politic as their defenders were tiring.

Still we're 2nd with a decent run of fixtures to come. Even though we weren't at our best we could have won it so bodes well when we do put it together

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First time I've seen the game, including fouls, back today.

Definitely 2 yellows for Threlkeld. As they said on Quest, any other player and that second foul is a yellow. Atrocious refereeing. And he can't say he didn't see it.

Blatant elbow by their player too. Another red missed.

Only one I thought that he got right was the GK tackle on Rodney.

Where do they get these refs from? Fuming now

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7 minutes ago, philmpv said:

Definitely 2 yellows for Threlkeld. As they said on Quest, any other player and that second foul is a yellow. Atrocious refereeing. And he can't say he didn't see it.

Blatant elbow by their player too. Another red missed.

Only one I thought that he got right was the GK tackle on Rodney.

Where do they get these refs from? Fuming now

I was fuming yesterday when it happened right in front of me sat in the Lorne Street. It wasn't the only blatant off the ball incident the linesman missed during the 2nd half. He was very poor like the referee. I'm sure there will be a letter of apology on the doorstep at Vale Park by the mid week.

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Defensively, Gibbons, Jones, Cass and Worrall aren’t the best but it’s scaring the bejaysus out of most teams in this league seeing that team coming at you with all the different scorers. Didn’t centre back Cass score last week from full back’ Gibbons’ assist… very hard to defend against.

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I think in this set up with 3 at the back there’s more onus on the 3 centre halves defensively than there is with Worrall and Gibbo as the wingbacks. In particular with the 2 wide centre halves as they have to come out of position to deal with any runners behind the wingbacks. Also with wingbacks there’s a bit of added pressure on our midfielders to help the wingbacks out as they can get overloaded if the opposition full back pushes on. At times yesterday Conlon, who is usually the one to help out on the left, was getting played around to leave us overloaded. 

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12 hours ago, southport vale said:

Today DC got it wrong. Never seen us play such long ball as today under him. Very
surprised the pressing game was lacking. When we went 1up should have brought on Legge. The more I see Rodney the more he reminds me off JJ Hooper he seems to have regressed

Legge wasn't on the bench🙄

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52 minutes ago, MBE said:

I was fuming yesterday when it happened right in front of me sat in the Lorne Street. It wasn't the only blatant off the ball incident the linesman missed during the 2nd half. He was very poor like the referee. I'm sure there will be a letter of apology on the doorstep at Vale Park by the mid week.

The one that got my goat was the bear hug on Worrall and he was thrown to the floor. The linesman ( can I say that ! ) stood oblivious to it. 

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17 minutes ago, darren1810 said:

The one that got my goat was the bear hug on Worrall and he was thrown to the floor. The linesman ( can I say that ! ) stood oblivious to it. 

From Lorne Street you could see clearly a couple of blatant elbows in the face from their centre half. Both were yards away from the liner who was staring at them. From what I've witnessed this season in particular I'd  guess that liners are instructed to simply attempt to keep up with play to flag for offside, nowt else. They don't even do that either! Complete waste of space week after week. Ruining the game.

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32 minutes ago, onestepatatime said:

From Lorne Street you could see clearly a couple of blatant elbows in the face from their centre half. Both were yards away from the liner who was staring at them. From what I've witnessed this season in particular I'd  guess that liners are instructed to simply attempt to keep up with play to flag for offside, nowt else. They don't even do that either! Complete waste of space week after week. Ruining the game.

Maybe, however the linesman was in our favour at home against Accrington and away at Crawley both games had the linesman flag for an elbow in smiths face and both were sent off after the ref had consulted with the linesman …. So we haven’t done too badly out of linesmen recently. I thought it was a tough league 2 game… we will have to get used to this if we are near the top of the league including coping with the dark arts of away teams as me coming for a point. I m sure DC and the lads will be upto the challenge.

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17 hours ago, valiantastic said:

we are starting to see a pattern from the types of goals we are conceding lately. Big man cross in the box and our current 3 can’t deal with it. if we get that right then we will have a lot more points. teams will see this trend and start doing what Sutton did and just fling it in because they know our current 3 are weak at attacking the ball. can’t complain right now where we are in the league but i do hope we sort this defensive frailty out 

Spot on. Assuming Martin will replace Smudger when he's suspended, he has the chance to put this right as we get tested out more and more on crosses. Hope he does but if not, we have the prefect replacement in Leon who is like a one man fortress in the box. If he'd played yesterday you can bet that header wouldn't have come in and the same is true of Sutton.

Teams are going to be increasingly asking, how do we beat Port Vale? And the answer is, crosses into the box. We just have to sort this or it's going to cost us more points than we can afford.

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1 hour ago, Bob Newtonian said:

I thought the ref wasn’t too bad no one was hurt and it is league 2 … physical with no camera s to help him.

was a bit weird in the bycars the sun was in my eyes at one point!! We ll have to have these 12:00 kick offs stopped!

Agree thought the ref was decent tried play advantage and keep the game flowing wasn’t card happy but made one big mistake by not sending their lad off with 2 yellows 

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Agree thought the ref was decent tried play advantage and keep the game flowing wasn’t card happy but made one big mistake by not sending their lad off with 2 yellows 
I can forgive a ref for not seeing something, such as the elbow. What I can't forgive is a blatant wrong decision not to award a second yellow card to a player just because he had already been booked. He clearly saw it. Unforgivable that is
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4 minutes ago, Tony Rodriguez said:

If he had sent their player off I think he would have been obliged to give Smith a second yellow for a late tackle near the halfway line.

Had he sent their lad off, the game would have changed and the Smith incident may not have happened.

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2 hours ago, Bob Newtonian said:

Maybe, however the linesman was in our favour at home against Accrington and away at Crawley both games had the linesman flag for an elbow in smiths face and both were sent off after the ref had consulted with the linesman …. So we haven’t done too badly out of linesmen recently. I thought it was a tough league 2 game… we will have to get used to this if we are near the top of the league including coping with the dark arts of away teams as me coming for a point. I m sure DC and the lads will be upto the challenge.

So he flagged for an elbow in the face? Did what he should do. How do you work out we did not do too bad. Two sendings off, we should have had Smith off, but maybe it would not have got to Smith if the ref and liner got it right. They would have put extra defender on an not angolan. To say we have not done too bad is stupid.

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42 minutes ago, Jacko51 said:

Had he sent their lad off, the game would have changed and the Smith incident may not have happened.

Wow, I was not expecting an existential debate on OVF. I was merely pointing out that I thought the referee was consistent in his decision-making, rightly or wrongly.

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