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12 hours ago, robf said:

We (the Fielding family) are matchball sponsors on Saturday.

It was my 50th during lockdown so it's a delayed birthday present to be in the posh seats.

I'm really looking forward to the behind the scenes tour as I've heard lots about the improvements to the tunnel area, dressing rooms etc.

I'll try and put some photos on here if I get any good ones. 

Rob, enjoy your long awaited belated birthday present

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On 21/10/2021 at 09:42, robf said:

We (the Fielding family) are matchball sponsors on Saturday.

It was my 50th during lockdown so it's a delayed birthday present to be in the posh seats.

I'm really looking forward to the behind the scenes tour as I've heard lots about the improvements to the tunnel area, dressing rooms etc.

I'll try and put some photos on here if I get any good ones. 

Have a great day and hopefully 3 points for Vale will top it for you and family.

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Hoping for a good game against Dad's army. With big Proc injured I would be really tempted to play a slightly different way 343 with lots of energy to overrun Ipswich sorry ~I mean Colchester team,  I'm sure they have prepared to play against 352 all week. 

I would go  -:

Cov

Smith Martin Jones 

Wozza Conlon Pett  Benning

Amoo Wilson Politic

This game could really open up for Rodders coming on as a sub with 20 to go.

 

 

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Hoping for a good game against Dad's army. With big Proc injured I would be really tempted to play a slightly different way 343 with lots of energy to overrun Ipswich sorry ~I mean Colchester team,  I'm sure they have prepared to play against 352 all week. 
I would go  -:
Cov
Smith Martin Jones 
Wozza Conlon Pett  Benning
Amoo Wilson Politic
This game could really open up for Rodders coming on as a sub with 20 to go.
 
 


Rodneys sub appearances this season have left me completely underwhelmed and, against Rochdale, furious. Wish I could share your optimism on his effectiveness as a sub.

I'm also amazed that you're dropping Gibbo for Benning, keeping Martin in for Cass, and dropping Garrity for Amoo!
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I'd be tempted to go with the side that did for Barrow at the start of that second half

                        Cov

Gibbo    Smith      Jones    Benning

              Pett         Conlon

     Woz         Garrity        Politic

                     Wilson  

Either that or Martin in for Benning with Jones at LB, (not sure how big a team Colchester are now, or if they take the aerial route). I know Benning was poor by all accounts on Tues, but was great second half on Saturday in a back four, so I'd be tempted to stick with him there (even if he has looked poor as LWB).

I feel also we need to go with more bodies in midfield and options out wide when Proctor isn't there to hold the ball up, gives us more short passing options, keep it on the deck. And all of the 3 in that 4-2-3-1 (or Amoo as another option possibly instead of Politic from the start) are happy to run on beyond Wilson, who in turn is happy to collect the ball deeper, so makes us hard for defenders to track.

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38 minutes ago, philmpv said:

Rodneys sub appearances this season have left me completely underwhelmed and, against Rochdale, furious. Wish I could share your optimism on his effectiveness as a sub.

I'm also amazed that you're dropping Gibbo for Benning, keeping Martin in for Cass, and dropping Garrity for Amoo!

Rodders has been poor to date but at some point he will get going and be a huge asset for us down the stretch. Just his sheer presence on the pitch tends to make teams drop deeper and create more space for us to play in.

My pick is Horse for courses. A different system means a few tweaks to make it work buy here's my logic:

Benning is he's natural left footed and doesn't need to keep coming inside which breaks down and slows our attacking threat. We need to play quicker against and old team and not slow build up play. 

Martin provides height with Proc out injured defending and attacking set-pieces. 

A different formation requires a different type of player.  Amoo fits the bill in this system with direct running with the ball to move the opposition out of position. You could play Wozza on the 3 and play Gibbo in the RM role but as the home team I went with the more attacking option with the safety net of Smith and the more defensive right sided CB.

Just shows how strong the squad is and the  options at our disposal. Its so refreshing.

 

 

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29 minutes ago, MBE said:

Rodders has been poor to date but at some point he will get going and be a huge asset for us down the stretch. Just his sheer presence on the pitch tends to make teams drop deeper and create more space for us to play in.

My pick is Horse for courses. A different system means a few tweaks to make it work buy here's my logic:

Benning is he's natural left footed and doesn't need to keep coming inside which breaks down and slows our attacking threat. We need to play quicker against and old team and not slow build up play. 

Martin provides height with Proc out injured defending and attacking set-pieces. 

A different formation requires a different type of player.  Amoo fits the bill in this system with direct running with the ball to move the opposition out of position. You could play Wozza on the 3 and play Gibbo in the RM role but as the home team I went with the more attacking option with the safety net of Smith and the more defensive right sided CB.

Just shows how strong the squad is and the  options at our disposal. Its so refreshing.

 

 

I don’t think it’s just solely a case of a right sided player being on the left, having watched some training I’m going to take more than an educated guess and say that when Gibbo plays inside to the forwards feet, who then lay it back to a midfielder, whilst gibbo makes an overlapping run….. (like the Sutton goal that we scored from that side for example )….. is a training ground routine in a attempt to get him behind the fullback for a pull back. Worrall makes the same movements and does the same link up play at times too on his side. There’s a lot more method to what players do on the pitch than some fans may think. Besides overall performance wise Benning has been nowhere near good enough, certainly not better than gibbo IMO. 
 

Rodney hasn’t set the world alight this season, so I agree in the front 3 with Amoo and politic either side of Wilson. 

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If Rodders is suffering from long covid he may well need a lot more time to get back to his best? We have enough bodies to fill those attacking places - let's keep switching it around so the opposition doesn't know what to expect?...except when Proctor is fit, as he has to play when he's fit?

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Always a tough one for me this!

Vale through and through as a Boslem lad but found myself in Colchester for the last 25 years and as a stones throw from home its hard not to follow the local team. Not many can claim to follow both teams avidly.

First and foremost I want a Vale win for the record.

The U's have been poor so far and are toothless up top. Defensively pretty solid. Hard to break down but lacking in any creativity.

I'd like to think we should run out worthy winners by a couple of goals if we play anywhere near our potential.

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Just now, Bob Newtonian said:

This will be a tough game.

there’s no reason to believe that vale will change from DC fundamentals… 2 up top and 5 at the back…..fine details are up to the manager… our job is to create an atmosphere…. Are we up to it ?

Are we good enough as supporters to rise above what we perceive as tactics and simply get behind the team throughout without using any misplaced pass as a lever to promote our own agendas ? Big game for us fans I think…. When DC and Fitz get another offer as they surely will…. Can we be passionate enough to influence them to stay?

Remember we can all comment on football but we aren’t professionals paying our mortgage through it… let’s support not criticise until after the final whistle, bloody hell vale is in my families blood… we wil need everyone on board for the best part of 2 hours tomorrow not 5 minutes.

enjoy the game remember it’s all about getting 3 points at the end of 90 mins 

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Agree about the supporters the last two posts spot on not always going play well so encouragement by everyone is a must if going today ,the atmosphere has not being what it should be in my opinion folk need to get out there seats and contribute more than just sitting there quietly it's not a library someone loudly remarked at times last week behind me that thefans only cheered when we scored got do better than that he was spot on .
Make it a horrible place come for visiting sides I feel we have a decent enough team to give hell of a lot more from the terraces .
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Problem with Rodney is I think he needs a regular run of games to get to his best. To enable that, we'll have to deal with his sub-par performances.

Worryingly, he has 3 in 24 since DC came in. Patience needed, though.

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4 hours ago, Breadwinner said:

Agree about the supporters the last two posts spot on not always going play well so encouragement by everyone is a must if going today ,the atmosphere has not being what it should be in my opinion folk need to get out there seats and contribute more than just sitting there quietly it's not a library someone loudly remarked at times last week behind me that thefans only cheered when we scored got do better than that he was spot on .
Make it a horrible place come for visiting sides I feel we have a decent enough team to give hell of a lot more from the terraces .
UTV

Same at away games everybody standing up as soon as they kick off 95% sit down and stay quite and like you say only cheer if we score thank goodness for the 5%

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Covolan

Cass Smith Jones

Worrall Pett Conlon Gibbons

Rodney Wilson Politic

 

Liked the idea of a 343 suggested by another poster. Without Proctor, 352 doesn't seem to work as well as don't have a focal point. Conlon will have to be more restrained but him and Pett sitting and allowing Worrall and Gibbons to get wide of a quick front three might be nice to watch.

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