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Genuine question - has Benning stopped more than one cross in all his accumulated game time since joining Vale?

Rodney poor again. Should have been Amoo to come on.

Joe makes a good point about the atmosphere but I think it was clear from the get go it was going to be one of those games and the inevitable blanket of exasperation and frustration, and even resignation, quickly takes over the crowd who’ve seen it all before. I’ve never seen us so sloppy and wasteful as tonight. Constantly turning it over, aimlessly hoofing it to a yellow shirt, passing across our own sodding back line on a wet pitch and getting caught out. It’s infuriating how often attacking moves and even set pieces end up being played backwards to the keeper as there’s no movement and none of them have a clue what to do with it.

One of Worralls poorest displays for us I thought but then he’s stuck back at WB.

They looked the 3rd placed side and us the 22nd. They wanted to win, were comfortable on the ball, we wilted from the first whistle and had the short passing game of a deer on ice. Worse than Stevenage that was.

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Watching it was completely annoyed more than any other game this season I've watched them .
Here are my marks .
COVALAN 8 saved pen did nowt wrong our best player in my opinion
Smith 5 looked out of sorts most of night .
Martin 5 did some good things I thought but also did some bad things .
Benning 3 a cone be more useful did he think he was still playing for Mansfield because he showed no desire take them on when we had the ball and was generally miles away from there player when he was crossing .
Jones 5 poor distribution tonight
Worrall 5 headless chicken no real attacking threat at all .
Conlon 6 great goal and another great free kick however spent most of the night chasing shadows .He gets a 6 for his goal and that's it .
Pett 5 chasing shadows
Garrity 5 chasing shadows
LLoyd 5 never held the ball up but was on the end of through ball to win free kick works his socks off ill give him that .
Wilson 5
Subs Gibbons 7 he livened us up a bit .
Politic 6 at least he got us in there half
Rodney 6 thought he did OK but we never played at all all night .
733 Vale fans there and they play like that.
AWFUL.
man of the match the travelling fans

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Genuine question - has Benning stopped more than one cross in all his accumulated game time since joining Vale?
Rodney poor again. Should have been Amoo to come on.
Joe makes a good point about the atmosphere but I think it was clear from the get go it was going to be one of those games and the inevitable blanket of exasperation and frustration, and even resignation, quickly takes over the crowd who’ve seen it all before. I’ve never seen us so sloppy and wasteful as tonight. Constantly turning it over, aimlessly hoofing it to a yellow shirt, passing across our own sodding back line on a wet pitch and getting caught out. It’s infuriating how often attacking moves and even set pieces end up being played backwards to the keeper as there’s no movement and none of them have a clue what to do with it.
One of Worralls poorest displays for us I thought but then he’s stuck back at WB.
They looked the 3rd placed side and us the 22nd. They wanted to win, were comfortable on the ball, we wilted from the first whistle and had the short passing game of a deer on ice. Worse than Stevenage that was.

I agree with all of this , painful to watch at times but spot on from Clarke we can turn it into a positive week with a win on Saturday now

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3 hours ago, Breadwinner said:

Martin 5 did some good things I thought but also did some bad things .

Just rate everyone like this:

Did some good things and some bad things

Did some good things and no bad things

Did no good things and no bad things

Did no good things and some bad things

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The Mansfield commentators were raging about our gamesmanship, in particular when Lloyd went down second half holding his face just before he got subbed. That really did create a hostile environment by the sound of the crowd. They weren’t happy with Covolans time wasting either, which was quality in my book. I thought one of them was going to have a heart attack when that penalty wasn’t given second half. Personally I thought he threw himself forward looking for it. They were full of praise for Mel Benning before the game, interestingly they made a comment that over the last couple of years he never hit the heights of his form of when he first joined them, but as he was about to be subbed even they noticed that he’d done nothing all game. 
 

Play poorly and take a point isn’t necessarily a bad thing. Just need to stop that becoming a trend, but I think the 3 changes to the starting line up were noticeable in our overall performance and fluidity. Proctor is crucial to us linking with the wing backs and the midfield. We just didn’t get hold of the ball for any meaningful length of time in the game and we seemed to constantly under pressure and sitting back. 
 

Some negative comments on Conlon earlier in the thread, I agree with another poster in that teams will pay good money for someone who can produce a special moment in a game like he did with the free kick. Game changing players are what stand out and even in a quiet game by his standards he still pulled something out of the bag, that could have won it but at least gave us a share of the spoils. 

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I feel more positive than negative after that strangely in that if we can be that off it and grind a point out (and nearly nick it) then that’s a promotion side trait.

Difference between why we are up there and them down there is we played poorly still got a decent point, they played very well but couldn’t get the three.

Last season we were as bad and lost 4-0 so shows the improvement that we’ve defended resolutely to ensure we got something and ran.

Good to see Smudge do a Cheilini at the end to preserve the result! Last season we let them run through and take the consequences.

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1 hour ago, CAVALIER said:

They cut out any supply to Woz by having 2 on him. Benning had acres but we didn’t use him and the midfield weren’t there. Conlon needs a rocket. Great goal and second free kick but that was it. Quinn aged what, 40, ran rings around him

Barrow did the same at the weekend with Worrall and gibbons, 2 men on them every time stopping the ball into our forwards from both wing backs and we couldn’t get anything going. 

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I still worry about that formation. Always feels to me that’s it’s quite easy to counter and to stop us playing. Which Mansfield did with ease last night. It Dosent suit us, Worrall still being wasted at RWB and Politic stuck on the bench. 433 or 4321 next time DC 

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Barrow did the same at the weekend with Worrall and gibbons, 2 men on them every time stopping the ball into our forwards from both wing backs and we couldn’t get anything going. 
I think that this is maybe a sign that teams have figured out how to stop us creating. DC has said that would happen, and that he would change it when they did, so we'll see if he actually does relatively soon I expect

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25 minutes ago, valiant_593 said:

I still worry about that formation. Always feels to me that’s it’s quite easy to counter and to stop us playing. Which Mansfield did with ease last night. It Dosent suit us, Worrall still being wasted at RWB and Politic stuck on the bench. 433 or 4321 next time DC 

We played 433 second half (Politic, Rodney, Worrall front three) and were much, much worse. 

We weren't great with a 352 but we looked a bit better. 

Politic came on and did very little, which was disappointing. It was an off-night but 352 has served us relatively well.

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