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Match Thread: Port Vale v Barrow


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5 hours ago, philmpv said:
17 hours ago, werstayinup said:
Come on Doha that cant be right surely.....RZ told us he was a bully and how poor his man management was....we can ask him when he errrmmm next appears

I understand that he, and a number of other posters, are currently offline convalescing from knee replacement surgery

I am still here, I don't feel the need to keep putting myself in the firing line for having a different opinion to the happy clappers. 

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I don’t think anyone is knocking Covolan as such, but I’m also struggling to understand the reluctance to give Stone a go. When we signed both it wasn’t immediately obvious (to me at any rate) who would be No 1, given Cov, whilst more experienced, has spent most of his career in Non-League whereas Stone has more FL appearances. I have a feeling Mansfield might be the game with it being his old club, because if he can’t get up for that game he never will. 

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I am still here, I don't feel the need to keep putting myself in the firing line for having a different opinion to the happy clappers. 
All of us have different opinions and are free to express them. Nobody has knocked you for that. It's your insistence on pushing your original opinion despite all of the evidence to the contrary that people give you stick for
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20 minutes ago, Rampant Zebra said:

I am still here, I don't feel the need to keep putting myself in the firing line for having a different opinion to the happy clappers. 

Happy clappers 😂😂😂

yes we’re happy RZ we’re 3rd in the table 

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4 hours ago, valiant_593 said:

Straight at him, cov pushed it into the corner. No debate that it’s his error me for me, even DC said so. 

 

It’s fair to criticise an error like that surely? DC has said he has to do much better. Personally I think he does need to improve, the last 3 games we have conceded 3 goals I would expect him to save. If we can criticise Wilson every time he misses a chance it’s only fair to criticise the keeper when he lets one straight at him in. 

In fairness to Cov it deflected off the wall, you can hear it on the youtube highlights. Perhaps he should have saved it but the deflection made it much more difficult.

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Irrespective of deflection he got his hands to the ball comfortably but had weak hands. Could have punched?  As DC said it was a mistake. However at 2-1 he made a very brave stop at a forwards feet as the ball came in from the bye line.  So as his mistake didn't cost us let's move on and look forward.

Its hard these days being a Vale fan with very little to moan at. Let's have the days back when you could stand in the Paddock and a bad defeat would guarantee an increased attendance at the next home game!! Lol.

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Not relating to Covolan in just this one game but more generally, is it possible, subconsciously maybe, that some fans have got a little bit carried away in thinking we’ve signed a goalkeeper who was destined to become a superstar club legend, when in reality it’s more likely that we’ve signed a decent League 2 level keeper, no better or worse than that?

Ironically, we’ve seen already, the better players so far have been those where our expectations were lower.

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Not relating to Covolan in just this one game but more generally, is it possible, subconsciously maybe, that some fans have got a little bit carried away in thinking we’ve signed a goalkeeper who was destined to become a superstar club legend, when in reality it’s more likely that we’ve signed a decent League 2 level keeper, no better or worse than that?
Ironically, we’ve seen already, the better players so far have been those where our expectations were lower.
I personally think that it's just the opposite. He got sent off in his first game (and a friendly at that) and some seem to have never forgiven him, nor will they. Plus he's completely different to Scott Brown, so the natural reaction seems to be 'we don't like this, we're not used to it'. If he was a monkey, he'd have been hanged by the people shouting loudest for him to be dropped


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Just seen the highlights. Mistake fom Cov for the first on though he will have seen it late. I had appreciated the skill from Denis for his excellent equaliser but hadn’t appreciated fully the quality, first of the shot from Mal and more importantly his “switched on-ness” to net the rebound for the third- that was superb.

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2 hours ago, Rampant Zebra said:

I am still here, I don't feel the need to keep putting myself in the firing line for having a different opinion to the happy clappers. 

Do you still have a different opinion on the players he has brought in and on DC and the management team then?

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Anyone seeing Cov on football focus will want him to succeed. So far I would say, okay.  Not great but not bad and most of the poor goals have other factors. Like the unnecessary free kick and poor wall yesterday. I'd certainly stick with him.

When he arrived I wonder if he felt he had an el loco persona to live up to? Thankfully that has gone, he's looked calm recently. 

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23 hours ago, Doha said:

Politic's first touch for his goal. Oh my god.

 

 

Yep - Politic's first touch was great...as was the ball out to the wing, and the cross in for the third goal. Wouldn't be too harsh on Covolan, either - the ball came through a bunch of legs, and low down, and he was fractionally late seeing it so getting down to it a little late. You'll see that from better keepers than ours!

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Politics goal changed the course of that game it was brilliant .
Dc was brought up on a Mansfield housing estate ,no let up on Tuesday Vale you go for the 3 points they didn't feel sorry for us when they were battering us both games 7-0 on aggregate let's beat them and well tues .
I think Proctor will be out so id start with Walker in his place and push conlon up front with Wilson

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