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22 hours ago, Doha said:

They were a good side on the ball. I've watched every game this season and been to 5. Rochdale looked the tidiest league side we've played so far. 

I was thinking during the game there are times where you just have to say "yeah these look a better team" and yesterday was one of them. I am surprised given their relegation last season but on the basis of yesterday they could easily be up there in April/May.

Yes we made them look better because we were utterly dire at times but not to take anything away from them, they looked capable. 

Spot on.  I think you see this sometimes with the newly relegated teams, initially still playing a bit above the level.  I felt after 20 mins Rochdale performed as a league 1 team would for pretty much all of the remainder.  They were a cut above us for most of that time.  Whether they can continue to perform like that who knows.  Probably consistency will be their nemesis, as it is ours.

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Hope Walker going be OK put on the bench v Bolton and Rochdale when playing superbly v Forest Green .

I've no idea what our manager was thinking yes Conlons a good player and he showed it for 25 mins of the 90 sat however Walker is a 80 out of 90 player and when Conlon has being involved we have lost all the games he as started in this season ,not to say its his fault just stating facts .

You do not take off Garrity and D Jones as im sure they were the players in form ,fair enough bringing Walker on but Conlon should have being the change along with Worrall who for 20 was magnificent but in my honest opinion disappeared as did a fair few of them however our second half displays with Pett Garrity and Walker as the 3 has being generally terrific.

Maybe something for DC to think about .

UTV 

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On 05/09/2021 at 14:16, Doha said:

Just put myself through the misery of watching them back. Jesus. That phrase "he looks like he's won a competition to play" was really true for Mal Benning.

And yeah, watching it instead of fast paced real time from the back of the Railway, Cov was really slow on the first two. Has to at least touch the first one, it wasn't a bullet header. 

Can't believe how bad Garrity was?

Midfield is always where games are won and lost.

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On 05/09/2021 at 12:55, Jacko51 said:

Martin was excellent at Forest Green.  He made a cock up for the first goal yesterday by misjudging the ball but as I said earlier, he's played the majority of his league career above League Two so he can't be as bad as people on here are making out.  Cut the bloke some slack.  Last season there were fans on here calling for Legge to be dropped because he was going through an awful spell before Christmas.  Good job we didn't listen to them

I am not saying  Aaron Martin is a poor player by any means just that he doesn't appear to be the dominant in the air, ball attacking center back in the mold of Leon Legge who's been outstanding for the Vale since he's been at the club apart from a blip in form last Nov/Dec....ish. 

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5 hours ago, Breadwinner said:

Hope Walker going be OK put on the bench v Bolton and Rochdale when playing superbly v Forest Green .

I've no idea what our manager was thinking yes Conlons a good player and he showed it for 25 mins of the 90 sat however Walker is a 80 out of 90 player and when Conlon has being involved we have lost all the games he as started in this season ,not to say its his fault just stating facts .

You do not take off Garrity and D Jones as im sure they were the players in form ,fair enough bringing Walker on but Conlon should have being the change along with Worrall who for 20 was magnificent but in my honest opinion disappeared as did a fair few of them however our second half displays with Pett Garrity and Walker as the 3 has being generally terrific.

Maybe something for DC to think about .

Its exactly what the Walsall fans told us that this how DC operates. Also TP stated that Monty said the same thing from his time under DC at BRFC.

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8 hours ago, ginge said:

Hope you are not referring to my post as disrespectful!

If you think I am, then I probably was! But, I don't have the time to go trawling back through all the posts on here, so I'm not sure? 

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7 hours ago, TJHValiant said:

Wigan were bankrolled by Dave Whelan at a massive loss for years. 

Ipswich had not been in the third tier since 1957, until they were relegated from the champ a couple of years back.

All the other examples are generations ago and not a reflection of modern football. 
 

The current climate is a trend for smaller, often southern based clubs in shire towns to do well and clog up the lower league places, leaving less room for traditional clubs like Vale. 

So...Ipswich was a valid example, from me.

The other clubs mentioned - I've seen them all down the Vale, and I'm reasonably sure my son has, too? So, fairly recent in an organisation with well over a century of history. Other clubs - often, Southern ones, have also been bankrolled into massive debt - Fulham / QPR to mention a couple. Northern club Bolton, too, not so far distant. A problem with Northern clubs is that, for years, they have been mismanaged - Bury / Stockport being recent (but not the only) examples. Had these clubs been better managed they would still be alive and/or still in League 2 and not be replaced by successful, bankrolled non-League clubs which, largely, seem to have replaced themselves in League 2? Recent former non-League clubs relegated being: Macc / Yeovil / Dag & Redbridge / Barnet / Cheltenham / Boston U / Kidderminster / FRushden & Diamonds. Northern clubs in the ascendancy, however: Morecambe, Blackpool (despite an horrendous ownership) and Accrington off the top of my head.

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27 minutes ago, LancyTony said:

If you think I am, then I probably was! But, I don't have the time to go trawling back through all the posts on here, so I'm not sure? 

Ginge - I am so sorry, i was supporting your post, not accusing you of disrespect, but quoted the wrong post! Sorry!

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22 minutes ago, LancyTony said:

Ginge - I am so sorry, i was supporting your post, not accusing you of disrespect, but quoted the wrong post! Sorry!

No problem. Just making sure because I agree with you about those people being disrespectful. 

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22 minutes ago, ginge said:

No problem. Just making sure because I agree with you about those people being disrespectful. 

Yes - they might as well pat Carol on the head and tell her to "run along and play with your dollies"!!!

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12 hours ago, Paul6754 said:

I am not saying  Aaron Martin is a poor player by any means just that he doesn't appear to be the dominant in the air, ball attacking center back in the mold of Leon Legge who's been outstanding for the Vale since he's been at the club apart from a blip in form last Nov/Dec....ish. 

So he should be back from injury just in time to repeat the blip this year!

jokes obvs

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I can see signs that once we click we are going have a very good season on the basis of what i have seen up to yet .

I think as always that attack is the best form of defence its good see us creating and once again even on sat proctors should have had the matchball the chances he took were harder than the one he missed at start of game after Wilson scuffed his shot then Martin as headed over and we have two appeals for penalties waved away one on Smith and one in second half where it looked a blatant handball to me but that's about 6 decisions penalties which haven't gone for us in home games alone .

Wilson was making some very good off the  ball runs first half got a feeling he will be scoring 2 in a game soon in fact when we go forwards we look a good side I'm extremely impressed with Smith considering he is a centre half at going forwards but that does leave us exposed if someone loses the ball but better to be brave than a coward .

Rodney came on and you thinking go on lad burst past that last defender and get in on goal as jp as not just showed he as a sublime feet for a big lad like Popey he like Popey can flick it on but no good flicking it on if the other forward is not 1 got good feet get past his man and 2 has the belief that he can indeed go past his man 3 actually read where the  balls going drop and fire towards goal ,lets hope DC has learned from that game sat and maybe try Amoo up there off Proctor the goal v Bolton no messing about bang after fabulous through ball by Lewis Cass who seemed a bit nervous on sat not surprised though as Martin Smith and Bennings defensive efforts were not worthy on the day as the goals against unanimously show with the goalkeeper stuck on his line as soon as thar ball comes in the box get off your line you did it away v Forest Green why the hell didn't you do  it sat.

 Encouraging signs going forwards though  we have 6 players  who can switch a ball (Charlie Adam type balls )and thar can only be a positive .

I think there are lots of goals in us make sure the  back door is shut in future 

UTV 

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First 15 minutes was the best I've seen a Vale side play for a number of years. Tom Conlon was simply sublime and was at a Championship level for that brief period. It's no exaggeration to say we should've been three up.

Clarke tinkered too much and got it wrong. Too much 'game management' when the game demanded a 'we'll score more than you' approach. I'd still rather that than not seeing a sub for 75 minutes, which we've seen with previous managers.

It's cliched but let's trust the process. One of the reasons why far smaller clubs like Crewe, Accrington, Morecambe and Burton Albion have Sunderland, Pompey, Ipswich and Sheffield Wednesday coming to town (instead of Barrow, Sutton and Harrogate) is because they've been patient and don't have fanbases that over-react to every defeat or sloppy goal conceded. It's a long slog of a season and we need to leverage the fantastic support we have for good rather than piling on the pressure. We're a club clearly going in the right direction off the pitch, and on it we're trying something new instead of the same old. I'm still confident that if we stick with it we've got a solid season ahead of us.

KTF.

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Rochdale were far superior to Forest Green as an attacking unit and therefore much harder to defend against. Forest Green played ponderous possession football with no penetration and by the time they were able to get a cross in the Vale defence and midfield were back in the penalty area which became congested. As a result the Forest Green forwards were closely marked and had no space to move in. Contrast this with the first two Rochdale goals where the wide player delivered quality crosses into the box which were sufficiently far enough out to prevent the keeper from cutting them out and because the crosses were delivered early, the box was not congested, giving Beasley space to make a run to attack the ball. Admittedly the last goal was a defensive shambles but I think credit is due to the quality of the opposition rather than heaping all the blame on some of our defence. 

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