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Match Thread: Stevenage v Port Vale


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25 minutes ago, 1 said:

Cov has conceded 2 in 4.

Stone has conceded 2 in 1.

Bar a few dodgy decisions with the ball at his feet Cov has been virtually a by-stander with the odd competent save or cross thrown in.

At lot of other players have made more dodgy decisions with the ball at their feet but get away without criticism that lasts days.

100% agree with this. 

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44 minutes ago, valiant_593 said:

Sorry don’t agree at all. None of those other 10 players got themselves sent off. He’s in a key position and shouldn’t be messing around with the ball. 

Do you think we would have won that game without the sending off?

At the moment he has a slight weakness. As a massive Brown fan (who wanted him to stay), I'd say Lucas' confidence in commanding his area makes up for his 'going walkabout'. It's certainly an easier thing to fix and will cost fewer goals.

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2 hours ago, valiant_593 said:

Sorry don’t agree at all. None of those other 10 players got themselves sent off. He’s in a key position and shouldn’t be messing around with the ball. 

But a couple of them were in dereliction of duty when it came to marking their scorer?  And how about the chance Wilson missed from under the bar - surely he was in a key position and should have been putting the ball in the net?

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1 hour ago, jimbo57 said:

Quite agree and I can't understand how anyone can possibly defend a player who was red carded twice in a matter of days.

Wasn't Tommy Widdrington sent off twice in a matter of minutes?  He got red carded in one game then was sent off in the first minute of his return - at Birmingham?  Or is my memory playing tricks? 

Covolan's first red card was a result of stupidity by the officials and would surely have been rescinded had we bothered to appeal it.  His second was madness but is not a reason for the sort of abuse people like you are directing towards him.  Tell me a goal he's been responsible for so far and I'll give some credibility to your opinions.

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15 minutes ago, Jacko51 said:

Wasn't Tommy Widdrington sent off twice in a matter of minutes?  He got red carded in one game then was sent off in the first minute of his return - at Birmingham?  Or is my memory playing tricks? 

Yep, last day of the 1998–99 season and third game of the 1999–2000 season so there was a three month gap

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1 hour ago, Jacko51 said:

Covolan's first red card was a result of stupidity by the officials and would surely have been rescinded had we bothered to appeal it.  His second was madness but is not a reason for the sort of abuse people like you are directing towards him.  Tell me a goal he's been responsible for so far and I'll give some credibility to your opinions.

He most likely would have been responsible for a 2nd Northampton goal but he was judged to have pulled the guy down and got sent off. What this did was put Vale further on the back foot chasing a 1-0 deficit so the sending off did come with a cost.

On Saturday early in the first half  his left foot clearance was awful resulting in Stevenage being in on goal and their guy hit the bar. There was also the incident from a goal kick where all the players were lined up on Vale's right and Covolan smother hooked the ball to the left, it was like watching a schoolboy. I won't go into the situation where he thought he was Gerson and was nearly dispossesed in the penalty area.

Yep he made some decent saves and claimed some good crosses but there were also a few times he came out for the ball and there was a lack of communication which resulted confusion. 

All these things can be improved and as DC said I'd rather see Covolan put the ball into row Z. As things stand at the moment when the pitches get bobbly it's gonna be fun. A jittery, uncertain goalkeeper translates through the whole team.

 

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14 minutes ago, Paul6754 said:

 There was also the incident from a goal kick where all the players were lined up on Vale's right and Covolan smother hooked the ball to the left,

Yep he made some decent saves and claimed some good crosses but there were also a few times he came out for the ball and there was a lack of communication which resulted confusion. 

 

 

That goal kick was indeed bizarre but was clearly a misskick.  Our keepers have spent a considerable amount of time putting goal kicks into the crowd over recent years.

The lack of communication is almost inevitable at this stage of the season.  It will improve. I've yet to see anything from him that was as bad as Alisson's performance against Man City last season!

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It all started going downhill when Cov admitted at training camp he’d never tried an oatcake. He should have just said “yes I have, it was oaty.” That would have bought him a free month of dribbling antics.

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2 hours ago, glenpvfc said:

You won't be moaning when we get Stoke in the FA cup and at 90 mins, still 0-0, Mad Cov goes up for the corner and nuts in the winner along with the defender daft enough to mark him 

That’s a very very unique fantasy! 

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1 hour ago, Paul6754 said:

He most likely would have been responsible for a 2nd Northampton goal but he was judged to have pulled the guy down and got sent off. What this did was put Vale further on the back foot chasing a 1-0 deficit so the sending off did come with a cost.

On Saturday early in the first half  his left foot clearance was awful resulting in Stevenage being in on goal and their guy hit the bar. There was also the incident from a goal kick where all the players were lined up on Vale's right and Covolan smother hooked the ball to the left, it was like watching a schoolboy. I won't go into the situation where he thought he was Gerson and was nearly dispossesed in the penalty area.

Yep he made some decent saves and claimed some good crosses but there were also a few times he came out for the ball and there was a lack of communication which resulted confusion. 

All these things can be improved and as DC said I'd rather see Covolan put the ball into row Z. As things stand at the moment when the pitches get bobbly it's gonna be fun. A jittery, uncertain goalkeeper translates through the whole team.

 

Whilst I agree his clearance was poor , it was straight to Walker who's first touch was appalling. Then they hit the post from that. 

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Fact is Vale fans need (and I use that word purposefully because its way more than a want) a boo boy.

It's a seriously weird and strange quirk of English football fans.

You would have thought that providing him with confidence and support would be beneficial to the team, rather than slating him and potentially putting him on edge.

But hey ho.

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3 minutes ago, Iron Curtain said:

Fact is Vale fans need (and I use that word purposefully because its way more than a want) a boo boy.

 

You think so? I don't want to boo anyone. Cov looks a little wound up. Needs to calm down a bit. Then we will see.

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