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14 hours ago, Powerline said:

Don’t know why some people are hitting the panic button already. We’ve basically rebuilt our entire squad, it’s going to take time. There’s promising signs with our good defensive record, and we’ve played quite well and just been unlucky. And as others have said, it doesn’t help players to be abusing them in the ground.

 

Our fans are no different to anyone elses. I've never booed a player inside a stadium and think that's out of order. But it happens every week up and down the country, not just at Port Vale. But there's also people here that throw a bitch fit if you criticise players performances in a place like this, a football forum. It's ridiculous.

I think everybody gets that we should only get better as the season goes along. But there's plenty to be worried and dissapointed about this season early on.

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2 hours ago, darren1810 said:

Can't find anything anywhere, possibly 400 maximum. 

I was very impressed by our following. Given it is a 1,400 capacity away stand, it seemed very full. I thought we may even have had in excess of 500? Certainly more than any previous trip to their ground. 
 

Their home attendance looked dire. 

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2 hours ago, andy jones said:

The one thing we all share is 'hope'. I have been 'hoping' for 65 years so there's no way I won't be 'hoping' until I breath my last.

My concern is the fact that Carol is making an immense effort to bring youngsters into supporting the club.

So at the minute we have over 1,000 new 'hopers' turning up for matches.

But have we got the type of Manager we need to keep those youngsters supporting the club.

Football has changed dramatically and turgid defensive teams who grind out results are not the future.

When questioned on TV after a match at Arsenal once about his team's defensive display a Stoke manager (Durban?) replied if you want entertainment go the circus.

Managers who set up not to lose, rather than score at least one more than the opposition, are not going to make those kids lifetime supporters... They will be off to the circus.

 

 

 

Covolan belongs in a circus. His antics certainly kept things lively at the end of the 1st half. 

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4 hours ago, SFBT said:

Having watched the game this morning, I'm a bit surprised at the general negativity.

First half was poor, but even so, we weren't carved open.

Most chances were our mistakes.

Second half was thoroughly entertaining.

All players looking good and doing their bit, with Jones and Woz outstanding.

Pace was higher, passing crisper, crossing superb.

We should have won, and need to score when so dominant.

 

I don’t agree about the crossing being “superb”. Stevenage dealt with a lot of them and only two crosses, one that Wilson headed over and another when Worrall got over to the far post could be classed as resulting in chances. 
 

The 2nd half was decent, but when you look at how dominant we were, the lack of actual efforts on goal made and created was poor. 

 

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2 hours ago, philmpv said:

I agree that it was the fair result. But my point was not that. It's to see whether he will also accept that we should have won both home games. I suspect that he won't, and that all of his post match comments this season will be:

If we lose - deserved to lose, we were crap

If we draw - didn't deserve that. We should have lost. We were crap.

If we win - didn't deserve that. Very lucky. We were crap.

We've had four fairly even games but only have three points to show for it. Very binary stuff: 0-1, 0-0, 0-0, 1-1. With more luck we could have edged a couple of those games and got 1-0s but we need to be playing better and creating more if we want to make a genuine play-off push.

No offence but you seem to like predicting people's personalities and behaviours but you're not very good at it.

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50 minutes ago, TJHValiant said:

I don’t agree about the crossing being “superb”. Stevenage dealt with a lot of them and only two crosses, one that Wilson headed over and another when Worrall got over to the far post could be classed as resulting in chances. 
 

The 2nd half was decent, but when you look at how dominant we were, the lack of actual efforts on goal made and created was poor. 

 

Maybe it depends on how you define a good cross.

I saw what seemed like a stream of quality balls into the area.

Not having anyone getting on the end of them is another thing entirely.

Clearly the two coinciding is the ideal.

 

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1 hour ago, TJHValiant said:

I was very impressed by our following. Given it is a 1,400 capacity away stand, it seemed very full. I thought we may even have had in excess of 500? Certainly more than any previous trip to their ground. 
 

Their home attendance looked dire. 

Total Att. 2727, cant find a split.

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17 hours ago, CambridgeDon said:

Already, a few players who've had a ropey start (I'm thinking Covolan, Wilson and Benning) seem to be the targets of particular criticism. The manager knows these players and needs to be given some slack in ensuring their development. I'm particularly exercised with Wilson who I think is a class player but seems to lack confidence, for whatever reason. It's not going to help him or the others one little bit if the crowd starts to get on their back.

So let's cut them some slack, be a bit more patient and get behind the manager and the team as a whole - it's a long season!

Best post of the season so far.

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3 hours ago, TJHValiant said:

I was very impressed by our following. Given it is a 1,400 capacity away stand, it seemed very full. I thought we may even have had in excess of 500? Certainly more than any previous trip to their ground. 
 

Their home attendance looked dire. 

It's hard say what the away following was as they were all spread out across the stand. Last time we played them away and fans were allowed to attend we took 313 and there looked more there than that if I had to guess I'd say between 400 and 500.

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What was a pain yesterday, apart from Vale's 1st half performance, was the many white seats in the stands. watching on iFollow when a cross came into either box or when the ball was hit in the air the white ball against the background of white seats made it difficult to see and I often lost the flight of the ball or lost it altogether. Perhaps I need a trip to the opticians.

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Early doors yes we would prefer 4 wins out of 4 games and apart from the first game we have had chances to score but we have also give chances for the opposition score so at present who knows how the seasons going pan out however if your striker is heading over unchallenged from 6 yards and miscontrolling and managing put the ball the wrong side of the post when it's easier score (yes folks will say he is getting in there score  )then we have a problem and it needs addressing as quickly as possible .especially when fans are commenting that he is strolling around also as he is first line of defence along with Rodney. 

It's not being good enough that's for sure .

If any of your players think they are  Billy big balls it can demotivate the others not saying that's the case but for someone who has played for Man Utd I'd expect a much more all round terrific player .

He needs step up and quickly. 

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1 hour ago, Paul6754 said:

What was a pain yesterday, apart from Vale's 1st half performance, was the many white seats in the stands. watching on iFollow when a cross came into either box or when the ball was hit in the air the white ball against the background of white seats made it difficult to see and I often lost the flight of the ball or lost it altogether. Perhaps I need a trip to the opticians.

iFollow was difficult to follow a lot of the time. Camera was zoomed in too far e.g. didn't show goal when corners taken, so forever panning quickly to follow ball and stopping / revesing quickly too. Coupled with low steaming resolution this lead to a fuzzy ball passing out of focus blobs rather than clear on focus players.

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19 hours ago, johnjeffersfanclub said:

Sorry, are you impressed by DC and DF's buzzwords and mixed metaphors?

I'm impressed by the honesty with which they have been addressing the huge task that was necessary, including the shipping out of...most of...the "dead wood"! I couldn't care less if people use buzz words or Klingon as long as they get the job done! Mixed metaphors??? - there are people on here who use mixed languages - do you know what a mixed metaphor is?

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9 hours ago, geoff1 said:

hes also been sloppy and sent off twice!!!!!!!!!!!

Indeed he has - and most of us would say only one was deserved...and how many refs send players off in friendlies FFS???

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14 hours ago, LancyTony said:

I'm impressed by the honesty with which they have been addressing the huge task that was necessary, including the shipping out of...most of...the "dead wood"! I couldn't care less if people use buzz words or Klingon as long as they get the job done! Mixed metaphors??? - there are people on here who use mixed languages - do you know what a mixed metaphor is?

You think he's been honest?

It's a funny world where someone can blatantly make a statement counter to facts and it be deemed honest. Remarkable but I hold people to a higher standard. If they fail it then I can ignore almost everything they say. He's full of BS.

Bottom line is that we are close to being decent. We are also close to being awful. I'm content with mid-table as I understand where who we are but I'm not content will idiotic spin.

The problem, for me, is that good teams find a way of winning when in the race. If they don't get that habit then we may end up struggling.

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