Goalkeeper stats

[Jacko51]

A couple of months ago someone posted a clever graph showing goalkeeping stats for our division.  I'm beggared if I can find it.  Can anyone help please?  I think it was what's called a scatter graph?

[Iron Curtain]

This the one Jacko?

 

 

[Joe B]

This one is the most interesting, as it backs up what we saw. Scott Brown very rarely left his line, and this cost us. He did it the least in the division by a margin:

When he did come for a ball, he didn't do very well:

There was a lot of debate about Brown, and the discussion was to be had, but the Ale and the Vale boys summarised it well, in that although Brown was seemingly a good shot-stopper (although these stats suggest he was around average), you could probably sign a more well-rounded keeper.

[Jacko51]

Thanks lads. 

[Iron Curtain]

Interestingly, the narrative always seemed to be that there was no better shot stopper than Scott Brown and it was his reluctance to leave his line that let him down.

These graphs say he was a poor shot stopper too!

 

[philmpv]

He was last season. I said as much during the period where he wasn't saving any shot in earnest. He was excellent the season before though, no matter what the stats say.

Interestingly, the narrative always seemed to be that there was no better shot stopper than Scott Brown and it was his reluctance to leave his line that let him down.
These graphs say he was a poor shot stopper too!
 

[Joe B]

13 minutes ago, Iron Curtain said:

Interestingly, the narrative always seemed to be that there was no better shot stopper than Scott Brown and it was his reluctance to leave his line that let him down.

These graphs say he was a poor shot stopper too!

 

My honest view, and its controversial, is that Brown was an average-poor League 2 keeper who avoided stick on the basis of:

1) Past heroics

2) Memorable good saves overshadowing consistent underperformance

3) The fact he's a top lad

4) The 'best keeper in the league' narrative that took hold in season 1

 

If The Matrix is using stats, you can understand the reasons he was released.

[Coyney Valiant]

19 minutes ago, Joe B said:

My honest view, and its controversial, is that Brown was an average-poor League 2 keeper who avoided stick on the basis of:

1) Past heroics

2) Memorable good saves overshadowing consistent underperformance

3) The fact he's a top lad

4) The 'best keeper in the league' narrative that took hold in season 1

 

If The Matrix is using stats, you can understand the reasons he was released.

Totally agree jb 

[johnjeffersfanclub]

36 minutes ago, Joe B said:

My honest view, and its controversial, is that Brown was an average-poor League 2 keeper who avoided stick on the basis of:

1) Past heroics

2) Memorable good saves overshadowing consistent underperformance

3) The fact he's a top lad

4) The 'best keeper in the league' narrative that took hold in season 1

 

If The Matrix is using stats, you can understand the reasons he was released.

I can't agree with that. I always felt he made big saves at big moments. He wasn't a brilliant all round keeper, but I thought he was well ahead in terms of points gained vs points lost.

[Jacko51]

Agree that those stats are pretty damning and explain Scott's release.  They also seem to show that Sam Hornby is a more dominant keeper in terms of coming off his line.

[valiant_593]

31 minutes ago, johnjeffersfanclub said:

I can't agree with that. I always felt he made big saves at big moments. He wasn't a brilliant all round keeper, but I thought he was well ahead in terms of points gained vs points lost.

I agree up until last season. He was poor last season but brilliant the year before 

[philmpv]

I don't think it helped that he knew that he would never be dropped. Even only on a subconscious level, this must have affected his performances

I agree up until last season. He was poor last season but brilliant the year before 

[bycars rob]

He got a hat trick of assists v Walsall at home, we can get a better keeper.