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6 minutes ago, PortVale4Life said:

He will score more for walsall than Wilson Edmondson and Harrat combined. 

Harratt and Wilson are already half way there, and one of them is child who’s played 3 odd games.

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I understand some of the comments, but let us look at the big picture with Rodney.

He starred with his raw power and a decent return in last years abysmal team.

This year after starting slowly he looked rather lazy and disinterested when called upon with the odd exception. Rochdale at home as a sub he was disgusting and received a few boos ( uncalled for ). 

Then after finally grasping the nettle he was banned for elbowing a Swindon player in the face. I'd love to know his game time since then, can't be much. A frustrating performance i recall at Oldham where he was either miles away from a tap in with the umpteen balls we put across the six yard box or being dozy on the wing.

He has scored ONE goal all season, which bobbled off his shin and trickled in. Now we have people saying he'll score more than 3 of our other strikers combined.

I can't blame DC for losing patience, wasn't he quoted last season as saying ' Devante is too nice '. He is so laid back he needs the proverbial rocket up his jaxxy. 

Just didn't seem to have a footballing brain or anticipation. 

At first i was disappointed but now the dust is settling we can get someone else in who hopefully will have more of a brain and positional awareness. 

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27 minutes ago, ValeForever. said:

He's also had a little nibble in his interview with Walsall saying that their style of play is a big reason he has made the move. Clearly didn't fit into DCs system. If the rumours about his poor attitude are true, good riddance.

Done well to get a bit of money for him as I think he may have just sulked for the next 12 months if not.

Vale, do we know what DCs system actually is.?

Id be really interested to hear RZs opinion. Even if you don’t agree with what they say they’re entitled to their opinion.

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23 minutes ago, ValeForever. said:

He's also had a little nibble in his interview with Walsall saying that their style of play is a big reason he has made the move. Clearly didn't fit into DCs system. If the rumours about his poor attitude are true, good riddance.

Done well to get a bit of money for him as I think he may have just sulked for the next 12 months if not.

Bog standard comment from a lower league player, I don’t really see that as a dig personally. It’s the same as when a player states, the gaffer, the facilities etc 

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It’s something that we’ll probably all look out for now. If he does what should we take from that.?
Not much. Sometimes players work out, sometimes they don't. He was decent last season but not this. Good luck to him. If he starts banging them in, that would simply indicate that either he wasn't happy here, or that their style of play and chance creation suits him better than it did here this season. I won't be losing any sleep either way.

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1 hour ago, valiant_593 said:

Can’t say I’m thrilled with it either. It’s a reasonably big turn around for a summer window nevermind January. We’re really struggling for goals and whilst Rodney has been down right awful at times this season, he can score at this level as we saw last season. Is this what we will see again in the summer? No idea what our 11 or even squad will be tomorrow, could kind of understand it if we were languishing in the bottom 2; but we haven’t done too bad thus far so not sure this level of change was required! Hope there’s a sell on fee as you never know with Rodney. 

I reckon sideis

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Worral smith hall Jones hussy

Garraty pett cooper

wilson  harratt

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1 hour ago, werstayinup said:

Makes monday more interesting now,will we try to replace Rodders and Cass now

I'm surprised this one has happened to be honest but as DF said if a club matches our valuation all our players are for sale. 

Its make an exciting at prospect. We could have some money (albeit unknown) burning a hole in our pocket to bring in X factor in a forward area to make a difference. Del Flitcroft would have had this one the bubble for the past few weeks,I'm convinced we would have had 2-3 replacements lined up ready to go.

Could be a really exciting Monday for a permanent signing plus another loan.

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14 minutes ago, philmpv said:
20 minutes ago, Playa Amodores said:
It’s something that we’ll probably all look out for now. If he does what should we take from that.?

Not much. Sometimes players work out, sometimes they don't. He was decent last season but not this. Good luck to him. If he starts banging them in, that would simply indicate that either he wasn't happy here, or that their style of play and chance creation suits him better than it did here this season. I won't be losing any sleep either way.

Phil, his goals kept us up. So what has changed

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27 minutes ago, Mario said:

How would you stop the other team kicking our players causing impact injuries emoji848.png

How many of the injuries are impact injuries, though? Proctor's 2nd (aggravating a non-impact hernia), Wilson's foot? Is that it?

The vast majority of our injuries have come around the same time (November onwards) and can't be explained away through bad luck/players injuring ours. Most have been muscular, and even bone injuries can be made more likely through heavy load bearing via excess activity.

Something has gone wrong with our sports science/training. 

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16 minutes ago, philmpv said:
18 minutes ago, Lifelongvalefan said:
I reckon sideis
holly
Worral smith hall Jones hussy
Garraty pett cooper
wilson  harratt

Willoughby in goal?

She's better up front on_the_buses_jack.jpg.298d7609842246c9f3d6a00dab762512.jpg

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Phil, his goals kept us up. So what has changed
Who knows? Hes become a father, had covid. Could be either of those or neither. I do know that he's been largely dog dirt this season. Last seasons goals don't count for this one unfortunately. We can't keep players who aren't performing simply because of what they've done previously. We've made that mistake before
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46 minutes ago, Iron Curtain said:

So if we had started a week later we would have expected these injuries a week later on?

Not sure how starting earlier affects injuries mid way through a season… timelines make no sense.

Also a few more weeks training didn’t cause a broken foot, a twisted ankle so bad it caused ligament damage and Proctors apparent kidney damage.

Proctor aggravated a hernia. The broken foot and twisted ankle are standard non-preventable injuries, I agree.

The rest; Gibbo's hamstring, Conlon's achilles, Taylor's quads, Lloyd's hamstring, Politic's groin, Walker's knee, whatever Worrall is carrying (probably ankle again), Amoo's 'strains' (plural), Proctor's first injury, whatever Hurst has got, Legge's 'freak' injury...

In terms of the pre-season, it isn't quite as linear as you suggest; you aren't just pushing along the injuries. If you start earlier (and possibly maintain heavy fitness work for longer, though I don't know if it's the case), then you increase the risks of injuries happening at any point, as the players had a shorter break from last season and had longer 'pre-season' before the intensity of matches kicked in. You also can make a player more susceptible to what some deem 'contact injuries'; they're more fatigued and therefore more likely to break down.

Muscle weakness can make an ankle roll more likely, hence why Cass talked about 'bulking up' in his recovery. Fatigue makes the muscles supporting your ankle weaker and more likely to do damage if you roll it (speaking from painful experience). Although it appears to be a 'freak' injury, fatigue increases the chances.

Whatever the cause, a serious investigation needs to occur in the summer. I think we're 50/50 to finish in the playoffs but these injuries have probably cost us top three, though we'll all hold out hope. We're either the most unlucky team of all time suffering from the most improbable string of unfortunate coincidences, or something has gone wrong.

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I’d rather we had kept Devante. He is frustrating and unpredictable, but that also made him dangerous. When he played, the opposition had to be awake, his speed alone meant they couldn’t adopt a high defensive line against us. I think we’ll miss him.

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