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33 minutes ago, Iron Curtain said:

I’m not sure that’s for sure… Did you listen to Flickers interview the other day? We have invested in new tech and platforms that allow us to watch games all the way down to U21 that are live or they can be watched later… so sounds like there is a database.

There will be plenty of data on Holy given his number of games in league 1.

Videos and data will be historic not just this season so plenty to work from.

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I’ve really been disappointed with the time Mal Benning has spent on the pitch. We were chasing him for some time and believed he’d be going to a L1 team. When we signed him I believed that he was a marquee signing and would bring some quality and class to our first team and would certainly be a nominee for player of the season. For me very disappointing and twelve months of his career wasted. Does anyone else feel the same or did you expect it to work out this way.?

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Welcome to both players and hope you'll both enjoy success.

I'll admit to being baffled by the Holy signing seeing as 50% of the Covolan ban is completed . He's certainly got a good pedigree so a good signing which leaves big question marks for Covolan or Stone for the remainder of the season.

I'd say another midfielder possibly permanent will be coming in. Let's get a cheeky bid in for Mr Guy . 

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I’ve really been disappointed with the time Mal Benning has spent on the pitch. We were chasing him for some time and believed he’d be going to a L1 team. When we signed him I believed that he was a marquee signing and would bring some quality and class to our first team and would certainly be a nominee for player of the season. For me very disappointing and twelve months of his career wasted. Does anyone else feel the same or did you expect it to work out this way.?
I wasn't impressed with him at all in pre-season and posted as much on here. That said, I gave him the benefit of the doubt but agree with you that he's been poor (in my eyes) and certainly hasn't lived up to the hype. That said, I am dubious as to the basis for that hype. I very much doubt that many, if any, on here saw him play other than against us in previous seasons so can only imagine the Mansfield fans opinions were the predominant factor. One poster on here kept referring to him as having had 'an illustrious career', despite it all bar a handful of games being at L2 level. One to bin for me in the summer

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3 minutes ago, Playa Amodores said:

I’ve really been disappointed with the time Mal Benning has spent on the pitch. We were chasing him for some time and believed he’d be going to a L1 team. When we signed him I believed that he was a marquee signing and would bring some quality and class to our first team and would certainly be a nominee for player of the season. For me very disappointing and twelve months of his career wasted. Does anyone else feel the same or did you expect it to work out this way.?

Always thought he was a solid left back when we played against them and I thought he’d be better. However I don’t think that wing back is his role and frankly it actually shows that even though the grass seems greener on the other side we already had 2 better players in Gibbo and Worral. Maybe he’d be better in a traditional back 4. 

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Benning is a very good player, dosent fit into a back 3/5 hes a left back and had success playing there. Kind of a similar story to Martin for me, (benning has been better) but i dont think either have been particularly poor, certainly not to the level that some make out.

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Always thought he was a solid left back when we played against them and I thought he’d be better. However I don’t think that wing back is his role and frankly it actually shows that even though the grass seems greener on the other side we already had 2 better players in Gibbo and Worral. Maybe he’d be better in a traditional back 4. 
People have defended him using that argument before. He played WB at Mansfield as well.

"He scored a winning goal against local rivals Chesterfield on 14 April, which earned him the nickname "Sir Mal" from supporters.[39] This was his only goal from 34 appearances in the 2017–18 season, one in which Mansfield finished one place outside the play-offs.[40] Benning adapted well to the new manager's wing-back system and after he increased his running statistics towards the end of the season credited Flitcroft's work ethic in training for his improved fitness levels.[41][42]"


Neither Gibbo nor Worrall are WBs, but they're much better. Neither was Monty, and he was too

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55 minutes ago, philmpv said:
59 minutes ago, PV1973 said:
Always thought he was a solid left back when we played against them and I thought he’d be better. However I don’t think that wing back is his role and frankly it actually shows that even though the grass seems greener on the other side we already had 2 better players in Gibbo and Worral. Maybe he’d be better in a traditional back 4. 

People have defended him using that argument before. He played WB at Mansfield as well. Neither Gibbo nor Worrall are WBs, but they're much better. Neither was Monty, and he was too

Not really defending him, just posing the question that maybe he would be better in a back 4 and he isn’t suited to wingback. Not every fullback can become a wingback, he cant have been rubbish all his career and as I know nothing about Mansfield I’ve assumed they’ve mainly played as a back 4 during his time there. 

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8 minutes ago, Playa Amodores said:

’ve really been disappointed with the time Mal Benning has spent on the pitch. We were chasing him for some time and believed he’d be going to a L1 team. When we signed him I believed that he was a marquee signing and would bring some quality and class to our first team and would certainly be a nominee for player of the season. For me very disappointing and twelve months of his career wasted. Does anyone else feel the same or did you expect it to work out this way.?

I agree with you totally but I have mixed feelings. I think he's been the most disappointing of the signings because of high expectations. Generally he has struggled but I thought when he and Politic played together ( rare occasion) they appeared to form a decent understanding and looked dangerous. 

I also don't think he has had a fair crack either, his confidence must be very low. He's basically dropped down to 3rd choice LWB or even 4th behind Jones. The home game against Salford was case in point.When Hall went of injured it seemed obvious to me to maintain balance of the team and keep our threat he needed to come on LWB and move Hussey to LCB but instead DC moved Gibbo into LWB. I thought this nullified our attacking threat.

Personally speaking I would like to see more of Benning and hope he gets a chance to show what he can do.

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7 hours ago, mvb said:

if you look throughout the EFL and the Premiership , the teams (95% or more ) that spend the most money have the most success , its a fact of business life , and running a football club is a business , Carol and her team have put the club back on an even footing , all revenue is now being fed back into the club , not into a fat controllers pocket , gates are up , expectation is up , so I am sorry investment is paramount to keep the momentum going  

Where do you get 95% from? I think that's a ridiculously high number, considering Arsenal / Everton / Tottenham / Newcastle / Leeds / West Ham / Watford  have all spent relativelt high money...Man Utd, even, post-Fergie...with little or no success in their League. And looking at some of the basket cases in the Championship, that figure decreases significantly!

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Exactly unless he is only on about football without taking the future of football clubs into doubt

Derby had far more football success than us , look at them now

Brighton, great success , directors loans over 330m!

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15 minutes ago, Idreamvalepvfc said:

This is a brilliant back up signing, this will surely keep convolan on his toes and keep producing for the vale, cracking business carol

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Holy is in no way coming in to be a backup. He's our number 1.

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13 minutes ago, MBE said:

I agree with you totally but I have mixed feelings. I think he's been the most disappointing of the signings because of high expectations. Generally he has struggled but I thought when he and Politic played together ( rare occasion) they appeared to form a decent understanding and looked dangerous. 

I also don't think he has had a fair crack either, his confidence must be very low. He's basically dropped down to 3rd choice LWB or even 4th behind Jones. The home game against Salford was case in point.When Hall went of injured it seemed obvious to me to maintain balance of the team and keep our threat he needed to come on LWB and move Hussey to LCB but instead DC moved Gibbo into LWB. I thought this nullified our attacking threat.

Personally speaking I would like to see more of Benning and hope he gets a chance to show what he can do.

Agree here, and i think you have nailed it with his partnership with Politic. Now like i'd imagine 95% on here i only had Vale v Mansfield games to go on. He had a superb partnership with CJ Hamilton at Mansfield and at times they were excellent. obviously i'm basing that on maybe 4 or 5 times i saw him against us. He hasn't formed any sort of partnership at Vale and i'd describe his Vale career as bitty . 

Has he been a world beater nope, but he's certainly no Ray Deakin or David Fitzpatrick.

 

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6 minutes ago, darren1810 said:

Agree here, and i think you have nailed it with his partnership with Politic. Now like i'd imagine 95% on here i only had Vale v Mansfield games to go on. He had a superb partnership with CJ Hamilton at Mansfield and at times they were excellent. obviously i'm basing that on maybe 4 or 5 times i saw him against us. He hasn't formed any sort of partnership at Vale and i'd describe his Vale career as bitty . 

Has he been a world beater nope, but he's certainly no Ray Deakin or David Fitzpatrick.

 

Maybe he isn’t the type of player that can carry a game to the opposition like Worrall and gibbo can in the wingback role. Not every full back is suitable for the wingback role and they may need a winger in front of them to be more effective in a game. 

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