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27 minutes ago, valeparklife said:

I really rate Gibbo and he'll be a big miss for us. But I've never thought of him as a Championship player.

L1 yes. But I feel the Championship would be a step too far.

Look at it from their point of view, it’s a low risk buy. Trawl the lower leagues for players with good stats. Pay a minimal fee if they came in this month. They could probably get away with paying him a lot less than the established players in their squad, yet it would still be much more than a L2 wage. If it works out then they’ve picked up a gem. If it doesn’t then they haven’t paid out a fortune. 

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1 hour ago, wishboneguy said:

First posting....go easy on me😀 I wonder if Sheff U would sign him and loan him back to us for the rest of the season? Perhaps someone could confirm if this is allowed.

We will sure miss the energy he gives the team and the way that gets the crowd going which in turn raises the whole teams energy levels!

Think it can happen I think a lot of prem clubs do it when they sign younger players, don’t think it’s something Sheffield would be interested in doing though personally. Agree, we will probably miss him more than any other player, I don’t think he’s close to our best technically, however as you say he just raises the tempo of the game with his aggression and gets us going. Shame but at least we brought Hussey in I suppose 

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4 hours ago, MBE said:

He does look off the pace but the only way to get going is playing. Having said that he can’t play 3 games in 7 days anyway coming back from a long absence do I would expect lots of rotation in the CF position anyway.

My point was more how to get the best from our best players and I think a change in formation is the answer.

 

He's been anonymous since he came back though. We shouldn't be accepting that when we now have others up front waiting for their chance. Harratt has taken is so far and hopefully Edmondson will too. Wilson will have his time again but at the moment he's looking miles off where he was prior to injury.

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I really do hope Gibbons stays, but it’s looking very likely he won’t be here for much longer. He will be a huge loss, and you could arguably say irreplaceable. I agree with a previous post, I never imagined a move to the Championship, I was thinking a top L1 club. But fair play, I really do hope he’s goes on and smashes it. He’s been a cracking player for us, and he has always give his all. His goal at Oldham away will stick with me for a long time! 

 

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23 minutes ago, Beech said:

 

He's been anonymous since he came back though. We shouldn't be accepting that when we now have others up front waiting for their chance. Harratt has taken is so far and hopefully Edmondson will too. Wilson will have his time again but at the moment he's looking miles off where he was prior to injury.

Bit harsh. He’s only played an hour v Brentford and then 45 mins v Swindon since coming back to training in the new year. He’s our best striker and it’s only right that he gets the game time to get back to match fitness. There’s no way we’d start games with a front 2 of those 2 loan lads unless Wilson got injured again. Another factor is also the overall team performance that can dictate the input a striker has in a game. 

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8 hours ago, Joe B said:

Record with Gibbons in the league:

Played 15, won 9, drawn 2, lost 3. 29 points. 1.9 points per game.

Record without Gibbons in the league:

Played 7, won 1, drawn 3, lost 3. 6 points. 0.9 points per game.

Small sample sizes but I would be seriously concerned for our promotion hopes if he goes. I think his ability is replaceable but it's his 'other' stuff which isn't. He gives the team and fans that intangible 'lift' with his runs and tackles. It's not something you find in many players.

Seriously concerned for our promotion hopes, really!? I really like Gibbo & there's no doubt he is a really good player for us, but I do feel there's a lot of overhype amongst our fan base with some players & Gibbo is one of them.

Would I be disappointed to see him leave? Yes of course. Do I think him leaving completely derails our season? Absolutely not.

He's a full blooded, hard working, "one of our own" fans fave. A lot of that is down to him loving a challenge & getting right stuck in. Defensively he's not brilliant. He also has a poor injury record. Going forward he has quality & is an ever willing runner & I've mentioned his other outstanding qualities. 

I get Hussey is 33 & a different style of player but for me, for the rest of this season, he will do just as good a job as Gibbo. Don't panic.

Hopefully we can get a few quid & invest it back into the team. On we go.

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7 minutes ago, ValeForever. said:

Seriously concerned for our promotion hopes, really!? I really like Gibbo & there's no doubt he is a really good player for us, but I do feel there's a lot of overhype amongst our fan base with some players & Gibbo is one of them.

Would I be disappointed to see him leave? Yes of course. Do I think him leaving completely derails our season? Absolutely not.

He's a full blooded, hard working, "one of our own" fans fave. A lot of that is down to him loving a challenge & getting right stuck in. Defensively he's not brilliant. He also has a poor injury record. Going forward he has quality & is an ever willing runner & I've mentioned his other outstanding qualities. 

I get Hussey is 33 & a different style of player but for me, for the rest of this season, he will do just as good a job as Gibbo. Don't panic.

Hopefully we can get a few quid & invest it back into the team. On we go.

That's an excellent post!  Different subject - it seems like Ian Evatt has washed his hands of Politic? I think we should pay what it takes to get him, if we can afford it - then play a system which allows us to get the best out of him, regularly, not only as an impact sub? So much potential in this lad...and he's a good age for improving!

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If a championship team are willing to take Gibbo why not, he won’t be costing them much. He’s young and will develop playing against better players. His wages will increase drastically which is good for his future and will offer him and his family some financial security for the future.

He could end up playing higher if it doesn’t work good L2 player if not L1. Good luck to him and thank you, for what you’ve given us on the pitch.

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1 hour ago, ValeForever. said:

Seriously concerned for our promotion hopes, really!? I really like Gibbo & there's no doubt he is a really good player for us, but I do feel there's a lot of overhype amongst our fan base with some players & Gibbo is one of them.

Would I be disappointed to see him leave? Yes of course. Do I think him leaving completely derails our season? Absolutely not.

He's a full blooded, hard working, "one of our own" fans fave. A lot of that is down to him loving a challenge & getting right stuck in. Defensively he's not brilliant. He also has a poor injury record. Going forward he has quality & is an ever willing runner & I've mentioned his other outstanding qualities. 

I get Hussey is 33 & a different style of player but for me, for the rest of this season, he will do just as good a job as Gibbo. Don't panic.

Hopefully we can get a few quid & invest it back into the team. On we go.

I think Gibbons is a very hard player to replace. It's not his ability, but his character and what he gives to the team. He's lifted Vale Park single-handedly on occasion. 

We won't get the money we should do as he's got 6 months on his deal. It won't be bad, but we're losing a strong player of the season candidate who offers so much to how we play.

It's a blow, however dressed up.

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1 hour ago, PV1973 said:

Bit harsh. He’s only played an hour v Brentford and then 45 mins v Swindon since coming back to training in the new year. He’s our best striker and it’s only right that he gets the game time to get back to match fitness. There’s no way we’d start games with a front 2 of those 2 loan lads unless Wilson got injured again. Another factor is also the overall team performance that can dictate the input a striker has in a game. 

 

It's not harsh in my opinion. I'm not saying he's suddenly a rubbish player. But in his time on the pitch since he come back he's not offered anything yet, albeit our team performance as a whole against Swindon was shocking so he certainly wasn't alone. But we have a tendency to rush players back and then throw them in only for them to break down again. Now that we have Harratt and Edmondson we really don't need to do that with Wilson. He generally gives me the impression of someone who takes some time to find form. Some players can come back and make an instant impact.

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3 hours ago, Beech said:

 

It's not harsh in my opinion. I'm not saying he's suddenly a rubbish player. But in his time on the pitch since he come back he's not offered anything yet, albeit our team performance as a whole against Swindon was shocking so he certainly wasn't alone. But we have a tendency to rush players back and then throw them in only for them to break down again. Now that we have Harratt and Edmondson we really don't need to do that with Wilson. He generally gives me the impression of someone who takes some time to find form. Some players can come back and make an instant impact.

But you only have to look at the start of the Season. Fans were writing Wilson off, yet he showed he needs games to find his form. So no way will Clarke drop him, as he knows, a fully fit Wilson is head and shoulders ahead of any other Striker we have technically and is a key player for us.

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7 hours ago, Beech said:

 

It's not harsh in my opinion. I'm not saying he's suddenly a rubbish player. But in his time on the pitch since he come back he's not offered anything yet, albeit our team performance as a whole against Swindon was shocking so he certainly wasn't alone. But we have a tendency to rush players back and then throw them in only for them to break down again. Now that we have Harratt and Edmondson we really don't need to do that with Wilson. He generally gives me the impression of someone who takes some time to find form. Some players can come back and make an instant impact.

You don’t ditch your main striker and a player who’s been the centre point of everything good about our play prior to the injury because he’s had 2 quiet games after coming back. You give players like that the minutes they need to get back to match fitness. 

8 hours ago, Joe B said:

I think Gibbons is a very hard player to replace. It's not his ability, but his character and what he gives to the team. He's lifted Vale Park single-handedly on occasion. 

We won't get the money we should do as he's got 6 months on his deal. It won't be bad, but we're losing a strong player of the season candidate who offers so much to how we play.

It's a blow, however dressed up.

This. Fans have a tendency to close ranks when players could be on their way. He is a decent defender and can get forward as well IMO. He is also a leader and a future captain as well. What he may lack in technical ability (he is improving all the time though to be fair) he makes up for in his attitude and desire. But all that side of the game can’t be understated because I think no matter how he’s playing, the team is playing or how the game is going he has it in him to do something to lift the team or the crowd. Whether it’s a run, carrying the ball 70 yards to drive the team forward or a tackle or whatever. It seems like no one else offer the same qualities he does and I think it’s obvious when he’s not in the team. Can he be replaced. Of course he can. Is Hussey that same time of player that can pick up where he leaves off. No IMO. 

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26 minutes ago, Rampant Zebra said:

Remember that Gibbo didn't see the Power Point before he signed. He was here already. Maybe he has seen what happened to last years out of contract players and decided not to take a chance. 

RZ, I read most of OVF and so both appreciate and accept others views and opinions. I think Gibbo is both better than the players that you are comparing him to and has more potential for the future as a player and an asset. 
 

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Remember that Gibbo didn't see the Power Point before he signed. He was here already. Maybe he has seen what happened to last years out of contract players and decided not to take a chance. 
That is the situation in all walks of life if you are on a contract. Accept the situation or be proactive if no positive feedback.




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6 minutes ago, Playa Amodores said:

RZ, I read most of OVF and so both appreciate and accept others views and opinions. I think Gibbo is both better than the players that you are comparing him to and has more potential for the future as a player and an asset. 
 

McKirdy seems to be doing OK at Swindon...

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