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9 hours ago, Moz said:

We still need a little more quality for me, if we want to challenge. Obviously, my opinion might change once we've played more games (speculation is the nature of this thread, after all). Compared to last season I'd say we're:

Goalkeeper - Similar last year

Defence - A little stronger than last year (I worry about Legge having to play too many games)

Midfield - Much stronger than last year (Walker is the signing of the window in my eyes)

Forwards - Similar to last year 

A lot depends on how Wilson goes. Like other posters, I think DC will look for a young striker (I like the look of Bailey as 4/5th striker), but we're low on proven goals. For that reason, I really hope DC doesn't want Wozza at wing back all year. The extra work takes its toll on him and he's out best source of chances.

The sooner we can pack off Whitehead and Robinson, the better.

 

The defence is much much better than last year. Better balance, better players, more pedigree, deeper in terms of cover. 

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16 out and 12 in, is it? I think, given that DC wanted a smaller squad, that that may be it other than loans and/or youngsters? Which will be fine for me. not panicking about strikers unless we have some shocking luck with injuries? Confident our keepers will do a job for us...maybe even go on to become crowd favourites? And defence / midfield are, unquestionably, in better shape. i'd prefer us to hold onto some cash for January in case something needs tweaking? 

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4 minutes ago, LancyTony said:

16 out and 12 in, is it? I think, given that DC wanted a smaller squad, that that may be it other than loans and/or youngsters? Which will be fine for me. not panicking about strikers unless we have some shocking luck with injuries? Confident our keepers will do a job for us...maybe even go on to become crowd favourites? And defence / midfield are, unquestionably, in better shape. i'd prefer us to hold onto some cash for January in case something needs tweaking? 

We definitely need another striker, Robinson is not wanted by the manager and I don't blame him, not good enough for me.  We have 3 strikers and an unproven youngster, Bailey might be great but I suspect he might go out on loan for experience, he is just 17.  We could have one injury for one of the 3 strikers and then left with a 17 year old on the bench.

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2 hours ago, philmpv said:
2 hours ago, Playa Amodores said:
Just a load of old tosh, only club who’d have him. Didn’t Quigley mk2 Richie Bennett say the same when moving to Stockport and he’s now at Sutton

I really think Quigley, like many others before and since him, has been subject to the instant judgment typical of some Vale fans. He was given a grand total of minutes equivalent to around 5 games for us, all in what most will agree was one of the worst Vale sides ever. Fact is that when given an actual chance he has performed well, scoring 35 goals in 73 appearances, including 15 last season.

Yes, he did play for us in a really poor season, but thats when good players stand up. I always thought he lacked any imagination and couldn’t be bothered. He’s had two very good seasons at Barrow so deserves a move but IMO very poor for us. Two good seasons since being a professional footballer, hardly tearing up trees. A lack of ambition and steps down a league for money. 

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2 hours ago, Boslem's Brazil said:

I think that looks our strongest team on paper, barring I think he’ll play Martin or Jones at LCB. Not a great deal of express pace, apart from Rodney, but the midfield 3 looks very tasty indeed.

I think with those 3 we should be able to dictate play from the middle of the park and I honestly think Conlon can surpass last season’s tally of 10 if given a more advanced role. His technique of striking a ball is a job to behold and he rarely misses the target. 

Agree with other posters, we defo need another striker who can compete. I think someone with pace to burn would complement the other strikers we have at our disposal. 

I think Clarke will go with Johnson at LCB. From what I’ve heard, he’s on a decent wedge and we beat a lot of clubs for his signature. Therefore, I reckon he was one of our biggest targets, and he fits perfectly into a back 3 considering he’s a left footer. I’d imagine Jones will compete with Benning, while Martin will most likely start in the middle with Smith to the right of him. Just my opinion, but I don’t think that’s a bad guess. 

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9 minutes ago, Portvale4 said:

I think Clarke will go with Johnson at LCB. From what I’ve heard, he’s on a decent wedge and we beat a lot of clubs for his signature. Therefore, I reckon he was one of our biggest targets, and he fits perfectly into a back 3 considering he’s a left footer. I’d imagine Jones will compete with Benning, while Martin will most likely start in the middle with Smith to the right of him. Just my opinion, but I don’t think that’s a bad guess. 

Sorry typo from me, meant Johnson or Jones. Interesting info, looking forward to seeing Johnson play. 

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11 hours ago, robf said:

I think we've got a good core but a fourth striker would be a good move in my view. I guess whether Robinson goes or not will have a big say on what sort of budget we have for that position.

It could be a waiting game. I suspect that as the summer progresses and most players get fixed up then players like Robinson will suddenly become a more attractive option for clubs desperate to add new faces.

There is possibly more chance of him going to Colchester. They were apparently going to re-sign Michael Folivi who was with them last season but he got injured the day before he was going to sign, He will be out for a while so Robinson must be back in the frame for them.

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Id personally have an out and out winger higher on our wanted list than another striker obviously if we got both be great just feel like we just need an option of pace and someone who can beat a man, i know weve got rodney but someone who can come on and change a game, or someone so that opens up different possibilities formation wise.

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53 minutes ago, valefan79 said:

We definitely need another striker, Robinson is not wanted by the manager and I don't blame him, not good enough for me.  We have 3 strikers and an unproven youngster, Bailey might be great but I suspect he might go out on loan for experience, he is just 17.  We could have one injury for one of the 3 strikers and then left with a 17 year old on the bench.

Doesn’t sound ideal, I agree, but who knows how good he will be? Looking forward to seeing him play either against Forest or Wednesday when it should give us a better idea of whether he would be out of his depth at this stage. If he’s training with the first team squad, DC clearly thinks highly of him and he wouldn’t be the first 17 year old to break into league football, would he? We’ll see! 

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1 hour ago, valefan79 said:

We definitely need another striker, Robinson is not wanted by the manager and I don't blame him, not good enough for me.  We have 3 strikers and an unproven youngster, Bailey might be great but I suspect he might go out on loan for experience, he is just 17.  We could have one injury for one of the 3 strikers and then left with a 17 year old on the bench.

Why would you send him out on loan when he could be scoring goals for us? We have - with Bailey - 4 strikers. We also have Amoo who could be drafted in, and a couple of spare CHs who could make nuisances of themselves. Pep Guardiola has sent teams out with no recognised strikers - good enough for me!

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Because DC doesn’t want him. Haven’t that been made more than clear over the past weeks?

It doesn’t matter what role anyone on here think or believe he can play. The only voices that matter are DC and DF. And both have given a thumbs down. So the discussion about these three players are absolutely beyond obsolete! They are Vale players on paper only. And the fact that they are training away from the first team and haven’t featured at all in friendlies, really should make the penny drop for the last few, most stubborn fans of these three players.

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32 minutes ago, LancyTony said:

Why would you send him out on loan when he could be scoring goals for us? We have - with Bailey - 4 strikers. We also have Amoo who could be drafted in, and a couple of spare CHs who could make nuisances of themselves. Pep Guardiola has sent teams out with no recognised strikers - good enough for me!

Just think it be a big ask for a 17 year old up against seasoned pro centre halves, not very often you get players of that age making a mark in league 2, happy to be proved wrong though.  I have not seen him play yet so should not judge but feel better if we can get that 4th striker in.  Clarke likes to play 2 up top, 2 strikers needed on the bench.  

It's one thing Man City playing with no recognised striker, League 2 is completely different, you have to have someone up there.

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We've been here before with Eldershaw and Turner. 

If I recall correctly, other than Brian Mills years ago, only Paynter has hit the ground running from the youth team as a centre forward.

Let's not pressure Bailey too much and develop him, we need someone in with a bit more experience.

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36 minutes ago, nodge said:

We've been here before with Eldershaw and Turner. 

If I recall correctly, other than Brian Mills years ago, only Paynter has hit the ground running from the youth team as a centre forward.

Let's not pressure Bailey too much and develop him, we need someone in with a bit more experience.

Spot on.

Bailey could well  become a player in the future but if we're going to use him at all this season it needs to be bits here and there.

No way should he be thrown into situations where we're relying on him.

Not fair on the lad.

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I don’t want to add any pressure on Eden or anything but I do think there may be a little bit about him. He’s got a bit of a swagger and he doesn’t hide. We’ll see in the fullness of time. 

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13 hours ago, philmpv said:
14 hours ago, Playa Amodores said:
Just a load of old tosh, only club who’d have him. Didn’t Quigley mk2 Richie Bennett say the same when moving to Stockport and he’s now at Sutton

I really think Quigley, like many others before and since him, has been subject to the instant judgment typical of some Vale fans. He was given a grand total of minutes equivalent to around 5 games for us, all in what most will agree was one of the worst Vale sides ever. Fact is that when given an actual chance he has performed well, scoring 35 goals in 73 appearances, including 15 last season.

We've had a few in recent times.  Harness was another during that season, looked nothing more than an average League Two player yet has gone on to be decent League One player(at least) who scores goals from midfield.  Admitedlly loan spells some players react differently to others but it could also suggest something about the coaching at VP wasn't right in the past?

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31 minutes ago, Santa said:

I don’t want to add any pressure on Eden or anything but I do think there may be a little bit about him. He’s got a bit of a swagger and he doesn’t hide. We’ll see in the fullness of time. 

My impression of him was he looked physically strong enough to cope, something which you can’t always say about these younger players. No point having lots of skill if you’re constantly pushed off the ball.  Ok so this was against non league opponents but we’ve got 2 friendlies against decent opposition coming up, so, assuming he plays more than just a bit part, we should see how he fairs against better players than those he faced at Kidsgrove and ‘Castle.  No disrespect to those players intended.

 

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13 hours ago, 1 said:

The defence is much much better than last year. Better balance, better players, more pedigree, deeper in terms of cover. 

On reflection, I think you're right. We must be better at RB, as Mills was dreadful. LB too as Fitz was also dreadful.

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