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Yes. But more the volume of players across the whole pre-season. The closer we get to the start of the season, the more competitive the market becomes (as we found out when signing Theo).

Also, with such a significant re-built, you'd hope for some time with everyone in for the start of the season. Making them all gel is going to be tricky.

Personally, a few bad results at the beginning and I won't be getting on the manager's back. That can't be said for the majority of our fanbase.

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13 minutes ago, Joe B said:

State of this.

"We've got no 2nd choice right back a month before kickoff! The strategy is in tatters, and we are clearly panicking."

Chill. It's all planned out. We're miles ahead of most teams.

We don't have any right back who will be fit for the start of the season. Don't be disingenuous.

 

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I’m yet to be convinced too… but how can you be convinced until the season’s well under way? “The plan” makes sense to me, it may be fur coat and no knickers but the time to arrive at that conclusion is about December and even then there’s the issue of how these lads fair on heavy pitches and how injury resistent they are relative to other squads. It’s an interesting time and I’m happy to see how a clear out works out. Part of the equation is the coaching and development of the group on top of the individual CVs as they stand in July. Lots of unknowns and ‘cant be known yets’. Enjoy it for what it is and by all means speculate, that’s what the forum’s for but no-one will end up being able to sustain grandiose “I told you so” statements as it pans out because there are so many unknowns.

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When Dc came in we continued with our losing streak, making many even myself think we’re going down and JA should have gone in December. DC then blamed the previous management which he was entitled to do and he was right. JA would have taken us down with his lack of knowledge in the transfer market and tactics. DC had to come in and motivate the squad which led to us going on a remarkable winning run and offered reassurance to us, the fans. Whilst for me the jury is out at the moment on DC who some may describe as a (poor mans Mourinho), I’ll make my decision around Christmas, it won’t just be based on league position it’ll also be based on performance. We’ve made some very good signings and with these unprecedented times players will be holding back on signing for clubs and holding clubs to ransom for a lucrative deal. Unfortunately in football at all levels clubs will overspend hoping to get promoted, however not every one can be promoted and will then struggle for years to come. A good example being that shower in Blurton.

The strength of a forum is to listen to others POVs invade someone mentions something that you haven’t seen or weren’t aware of. Please let’s of some cohesion amongst ourselves.

COYW

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1 hour ago, Rampant Zebra said:

I don't remember a previous preseason with 6 youth teamer and a trialist in a squad of 23 for the Kidsgrove game.

There's some mitigating circumstances though - we did have two new signings (Covolan and Johnson) who have been given a rest. If they'd have been in the squad, it would have been 18 professionals. 19, if Gibbo was fit.

Considering it's very early in the window being (in the manager's words) 3/4 players away with over a month to go (especially considering the number that have already been signed) shouldn't be too concerning. 

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1 hour ago, Guitar Ray said:

I don’t think anyone can say they’re totally convinced, only time will tell on that score, and it’s far too early. Nobody has said the squad is complete, we’re no different to any other club on that score.  If you look at our rivals we’re all in a similar position, a few decent, on paper, names signed and a few relative unknown prospects.  Nothing wrong with looking at youth players and I wouldn’t read anything into it, keeping in mind we were resting some players who’ve only just finished their season and I guess for the other senior pro’s the idea of the first game back is a gentle breaking in.  Anyway, most clubs will be signing players beyond the season kicking off as match day squads become settled so anything can happen.

I’m totally convinced in terms of every single step he has made since he walked in the door regarding the players I agree with really. If it fails, then I would have done the same and we couldn’t have got better players short of Carol putting the club on red or black and hoping to double up.

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46 minutes ago, Moz said:

We don't have any right back who will be fit for the start of the season. Don't be disingenuous.

 

There's 4 weeks before we kick off. We're short a right back and a winger from the starting 11, and a couple of reserve forwards. We have a DoF and recruitment analyst to work on this every day.

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2 hours ago, TJHValiant said:

Oh yeah don’t get me wrong I agree, but if we are having to still pay him money to go somewhere else, I would wonder the value of that? 

Usually with a loan deal the club he moves to will pay some or most of is salary especially one from the same division. Probably better to get some money to offset his contracted salary than none.

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The Sentinel is reporting that Clarke wants to sign four players - a defender, a winger and two forwards.

Presuming that defender is a right-back then we would have one in place for the start of the season. We'd then have Smith as emergency cover to switch across until hopefully Gibbo is back fit.

I do think it's a little premature to say we're running out of time. By this point last summer we'd yet to sign a single player. Rodney was the first to arrive on the 7th July.

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6 minutes ago, Joe B said:

There's 4 weeks before we kick off. We're short a right back and a winger from the starting 11, and a couple of reserve forwards. We have a DoF and recruitment analyst to work on this every day.

Agree on the winger, but I also think we want another experienced striker who can start. As for full back it depends on how the manager wants to set up.  If we are using wing backs I think he’ll go with worrall at right wing back anyway. 

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26 minutes ago, Playa Amodores said:

When Dc came in we continued with our losing streak, making many even myself think we’re going down and JA should have gone in December. DC then blamed the previous management which he was entitled to do and he was right. JA would have taken us down with his lack of knowledge in the transfer market and tactics. DC had to come in and motivate the squad which led to us going on a remarkable winning run and offered reassurance to us, the fans. Whilst for me the jury is out at the moment on DC who some may describe as a (poor mans Mourinho), I’ll make my decision around Christmas, it won’t just be based on league position it’ll also be based on performance. We’ve made some very good signings and with these unprecedented times players will be holding back on signing for clubs and holding clubs to ransom for a lucrative deal. Unfortunately in football at all levels clubs will overspend hoping to get promoted, however not every one can be promoted and will then struggle for years to come. A good example being that shower in Blurton.

The strength of a forum is to listen to others POVs invade someone mentions something that you haven’t seen or weren’t aware of. Please let’s of some cohesion amongst ourselves.

COYW

I think the appointment of Andy Crosby was the catalyst for the improvement in performance. His post Kidsgrove interview was a much better listen than Clarke's ramblings.

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7 minutes ago, fuzzyvalefan said:

To be honest, bringing in 10 players by 5th July is pretty impressive and they look a good bunch of signings to me.

Personally I think Tom Pett could work out to be a masterstroke signing.

Conlon/Pett/Taylor is a very good central midfield engine at this level. Young too. 

New LW, RWB to challenge Gibbons, a target man and a rotation centre forward and we're away. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Doha said:

Personally I think Tom Pett could work out to be a masterstroke signing.

Conlon/Pett/Taylor is a very good central midfield engine at this level. Young too. 

New LW, RWB to challenge Gibbons, a target man and a rotation centre forward and we're away. 

 

Do you have a place for Worrall in the first 11

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1 hour ago, Rampant Zebra said:

it seems a little uncoordinated to me

In what way? The obvious conclusion from 20/21 was that the biggest weaknesses were too much reliance on aging players in the spine (including for leadership), a lack of depth/competition for places in key areas, lack of tactical flexibility, inability to manage a game, and lack of physicality (in most areas, CB excepted).

DC himself answered the tactical flexibility/game management issues, as was evident on our run late last season. The clear-out and subsequent recruitment thus far, (which everyone in the club state is incomplete, but 10 have been brought in during the first half of the close season, so only 4-5 to find in the next 4-5 weeks), has addressed all of the remaining problems, with many of the signings having clearly been sounded out and/or signed up to the project very early on in the close season, if not before.

We are just a couple of players away now from a very competitive 22, which is a damn sight closer than we were 6 weeks ago, or indeed 12 months ago.

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