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Just now, Doha said:

At the risk of Beechy making yet another thread all about him, if you support two clubs you’re a weapon. Doesn’t matter who they are. Doesn’t matter who you are. It’s that simple.

Someone who really gets it, is a real fan, would be sickened by the thought of having a second club. 

It’s that kind of plastic bandwagon chasing that has helped cause the money and tourist disease in football. 

Even more of a weapon are people that get so emotional and butt hurt about someone supporting clubs not even in the same league as Port Vale and feeling like they're some sort of judge and executioner. The fact you admit you're actually sickened, despite the other things going on in the world right now, I can only think you don't have much if anything in life beyond Port Vale football club.

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the greed league complaining that another greed league is taking their teams .................... funny that

as far as G.Neville goes, you're sinking money into a pub team trying to get them into the championship, so you need to look at yourself first

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For me, its confirmation of what we already knew.  At the top level, the identity has absolutely gone and it is ALL about money. Nothing else at all.

The Premier League cannot even complain about it really. They've allowed ownership of clubs for folk who have no idea whatsoever about what football in this country means to fans. 

It's an abomination, a joke and nobody wants it.

But we have let it happen.

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Just now, mikey said:

the greed league complaining that another greed league is taking their teams .................... funny that

as far as G.Neville goes, you're sinking money into a pub team trying to get them into the championship, so you need to look at yourself first

So are you saying if Carol came into more money from somewhere and invested it into the club/team, you would be opposed to that?

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7 minutes ago, Beech said:

Even more of a weapon are people that get so emotional and butt hurt about someone supporting clubs not even in the same league as Port Vale and feeling like they're some sort of judge and executioner. The fact you admit you're actually sickened, despite the other things going on in the world right now, I can only think you don't have much if anything in life beyond Port Vale football club.

Console yourself with whatever you want Beech, you’re not Vale and never will be in the eyes of thousands. Peculiar, peculiar little manchild.

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Just now, mikey said:

As long as it was sustainable no. But I wouldnt be jumping ship to some fantasy league where you cant get relegated - who do they think they are?

 

I completely agree with the last bit/ I just don't get this hatred for the Premier League when it's what every football league club with any ambition is aiming to be long-term, Port Vale included. And if anyone is happy to just exist in the lower leagues than they need to give their heads a wobble.

At the end of the day football club's are a business that provide entertainment. 

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1 minute ago, Doha said:

Console yourself with whatever you want Beech, you’re not Vale and never will be in the eyes of thousands. Peculiar, peculiar little manchild.

What thousands? You speak for yourself and a minority only, Mr. Port Vale. If Vale ever go out of business in these crazy times, or drop out of the football league which is more of a possibility, then God help you.

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Just now, Beech said:

 

I completely agree with the last bit/ I just don't get this hatred for the Premier League when it's what every football league club with any ambition is aiming to be long-term, Port Vale included. And if anyone is happy to just exist in the lower leagues than they need to give their heads a wobble.

At the end of the day football club's are a business that provide entertainment. 

Im astonished that you dont get the hatred bit - small clubs like us have been squeezed over the years as the funds were diverted to the rich clubs. Im not sure i'd ever want us in the Prem as it can kill clubs like ours - just look at Bradford, Swindon, Portsmouth, Oldham etc...... none have fully recovered from their time in the top flight

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Just now, Doha said:

The hatred is for this, not the premier league. 

Port Vale are a business. Do you think Carol isn't also in it to try and make money during her stint as Chairwoman?! Her heart is in the right place, much more so than other owners, that's clear. But she's a businesswoman at the end of day, no matter what you try and tell yourself.

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3 minutes ago, mikey said:

Im astonished that you dont get the hatred bit - small clubs like us have been squeezed over the years as the funds were diverted to the rich clubs. Im not sure i'd ever want us in the Prem as it can kill clubs like ours - just look at Bradford, Swindon, Portsmouth, Oldham etc...... none have fully recovered from their time in the top flight

Well yeah, you can obviously hand pick certain clubs if you wish to. But there's plenty that have benefited from the money that comes from playing in our top flight. Ask Carol if she wants to see Vale play Premier League football while she owns the club if it was a possibility - You would have to have a screw loose to think that she would say anything else other than yes.

If people are genuinely happy with Vale playing football in League Two and wish us to stay there, then my God, what a mentality.

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41 minutes ago, points-with-bone said:

Presumably, as this seems to be based on the American football model, teams will change locations and names

So if Arsenal decamp to Brazil, they could be the Rio Gunners

Points-with-Bone

Yes,they don't do promotion and relegation in the USA.

They'll be moving Man.Utd,Liverpool and Arsenal to different locations next?😃

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7 minutes ago, mikey said:

Im astonished that you dont get the hatred bit - small clubs like us have been squeezed over the years as the funds were diverted to the rich clubs. Im not sure i'd ever want us in the Prem as it can kill clubs like ours - just look at Bradford, Swindon, Portsmouth, Oldham etc...... none have fully recovered from their time in the top flight

But clubs still have a go, will Brentford make it ? Extra promotion places to replace the Greedy expelled?

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Again Carol asked to go on Jeremy Vine and talk about this.  Port Vale in the forefront again.  She talks a lot of sense and said those owners are not thinking about the fans, just the money they can make from it.

Yes a club are run to make money for the owners, but without the fans then there wont be money going in to the club.  Just the select club owners who want to make more money and are not bothered what happens to the other clubs.  

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