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22 minutes ago, JRC said:

Some may not have 22 but I doubt any club has less than 20. Without in season loans you wouldn't survive with less than 20.

Make the numbers up with 20 and unders,  I think that is what Southend have done but others have too.

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13 hours ago, Fosse69 said:
22 hours ago, Guitar Ray said:
That's an interesting point.  Ageism is supposedly illegal interms of employment if not pay.

But it is a sporting competition. The number of players on the field is fixed. So the Prem fixed the squad at 25 Adult players, and an unlimited number of apprentices/learners since they don't all make the grade by the time they are 21 and all can't be guaranteed a job.

It's a sporting competition played by full time professionals.  Surely employment law relating to age should apply?

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33 minutes ago, Guitar Ray said:

It's a sporting competition played by full time professionals.  Surely employment law relating to age should apply?

Sports tend to have lots of age limits, physical fitness is often related to age,  footballers legs going etc. Which aspects of employment law are you thinking of?

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22 minutes ago, Fosse69 said:

Sports tend to have lots of age limits, physical fitness is often related to age,  footballers legs going etc. Which aspects of employment law are you thinking of?

Equality Act 2010.  Forget legs going, that's ageist.

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It's a sporting competition played by full time professionals.  Surely employment law relating to age should apply?
Not sure employment law is relevant? Vale could employ 500 players if they wanted to, they just wouldn't be able to select them all in the FL squad.

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On 11/04/2021 at 00:45, Rory said:
On 10/04/2021 at 22:28, Guitar Ray said:
It's a sporting competition played by full time professionals.  Surely employment law relating to age should apply?

Not sure employment law is relevant? Vale could employ 500 players if they wanted to, they just wouldn't be able to select them all in the FL squad.

That's the point, it doesn't appear to be relevant.  You'd think in this day and age that it would be.  Just referring back to part of the comment posted by DanishValiant, "Imagine any other business, only being allowed a certain number of people over a certain age. There would be lawsuits all over the place!
Ie. what if Tesco or Sainsburys said, each branch could only employ 10 people over 21, the rest had to be under 21
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EFL is a members club with a charter and set of rules that teams signed up to there is no legality issues they aren't saying you can't employ as many players as you want they are just saying you can only play 20 if you want to be a member. Similar to a dress code at a golf club

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That's the point, it doesn't appear to be relevant.  You'd think in this day and age that it would be.  Just referring back to part of the comment posted by DanishValiant, "Imagine any other business, only being allowed a certain number of people over a certain age. There would be lawsuits all over the place!
Ie. what if Tesco or Sainsburys said, each branch could only employ 10 people over 21, the rest had to be under 21
."
I think you're still getting confused by being employed and being selected in an EFL squad.

Why can't they make a proper decision on it? All seems a bit odd to me.

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22 hours ago, Rory said:

I think you're still getting confused by being employed and being selected in an EFL squad.

Why can't they make a proper decision on it? All seems a bit odd to me.

A pro footballer under contract at a club is employed, whether or not they're selected for the squad.  If they get left out of the 20, or whatever it ends up being, due to there being too many players over the age limit, could the rules be construed as being discriminatory?  Clubs aren't going to want to employ players to have to pay them not to play.

We live in a world where asking someone their age in a job interview is technically illegal, so to have age limits within the framework of smaller squads seems to me that it could potentially restrict the employment prospects of more of the players who happen to be over the age cap than was the case before these limits were in place.

Have to add I'm not an expert and the idea itself was originally floated by someone else.

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All though there isnt any obvious legality issues, as always if someone clever enough looks hard enough they could find one. The EFL needs to grow a pair and make the decision. What are the PFA going to do have it's members go on strike or seek money as compensation which will ultimately filter down to the clubs as less solidarity payments and therefore lower wages for it's members and finally if anything is discriminatory in football I think it's the no girls aloud policy that stands out the most.

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A pro footballer under contract at a club is employed, whether or not they're selected for the squad.  If they get left out of the 20, or whatever it ends up being, due to there being too many players over the age limit, could the rules be construed as being discriminatory?  Clubs aren't going to want to employ players to have to pay them not to play.
We live in a world where asking someone their age in a job interview is technically illegal, so to have age limits within the framework of smaller squads seems to me that it could potentially restrict the employment prospects of more of the players who happen to be over the age cap than was the case before these limits were in place.
Have to add I'm not an expert and the idea itself was originally floated by someone else.
Is only being able to start a match with 11 players discriminatory too?

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