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9 minutes ago, bycars rob said:

At least Artell comes out of this well unlike his employers.

Unlike Dario who ,whatever he tries to cover up with his statement,is banned for life from football activities .His claim that it's "ONLY FOR UNDER 18Yr  OLDS" says it all .His words,not anyone else's.

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1 hour ago, Doha said:

JESUS CHRIST

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/crewes-bid-to-shut-down-sex-abuse-apology-from-manager-david-artell-d6l62n785

Crewe Alexandra yesterday appeared to take steps to suppress the reporting of an apology made by their manager David Artell to the victims of child sexual abuse at their club. A Crewe official told The Times that the club had intervened yesterday because their directors were “uncomfortable with the ‘sorry’ thing”.

A report published this week said Crewe could have done more to prevent sexual abuse carried out in the 1990s by their former coach Barry Bennell, who is serving a 30-year prison sentence for his crimes. In response, the club issued a carefully worded statement that did not apologise directly to survivors, instead saying sorry “if there were in fact any warning signs that ought to have led the club to do more”.

The statement, which came more than 24 hours after the report was published, was described as mealy-mouthed and begrudging by survivors.

Yesterday Artell, 40, issued an unqualified apology that was far less scripted while appearing at his regular weekly press conference. “I’m not sure of the reasons it didn’t happen earlier,” Artell said, when asked why Crewe took longer than other criticised clubs to make a formal response. “But I know it was important for the football club to say sorry after the report concluded and what it said in the findings.”

Artell’s press conference, conducted via Zoom because of lockdown restrictions, involved only a handful of local reporters. Soon after it finished those reporters were contacted by the club and told that should Artell’s comments “go national” — a reference to them being reported in the national media — that the club may cancel future Zoom press conferences.

That led to some reporters electing not to report Artell’s apology, and one news website taking it off their site completely, despite having initially published it.

When questioned by The Times, Crewe’s press officer, Rob Wilson, said: “The board [of directors] were uncomfortable with the thing about the ‘sorry’ thing and that was the way it was.”

When questioned if he had asked for the story to be suppressed, Wilson said: “I just asked the question [of] where it was going to go. I never asked anyone to pull any interviews.

“I asked them where it was going to go, so we could cover off where it was going to go. It was done on a local level and we were worried it was going to go national.

“It wasn’t a threat at all. Do you want me to be honest? I said to them I have to be careful then, when I speak on a local level, if it was going to a national level — because we’ve got to cover our manager.

“I was worried if you record a Zoom press conference it can go anywhere in the world.

“I don’t think it was a threat. I said we would have to rethink how we do press conferences on Zoom. That’s my quote to you. I have to rethink, going forward, about recording Zoom press conferences if it goes from a local level to a national level [and about] protecting our manager and directors.”

Crewe have reached financial settlements with a number of former players who were abused by Bennell but those settlements have never included direct personal apologies from the club to the survivor for the abuse they suffered, unlike the settlements reached by Manchester City, who also employed Bennell.

A former player and the Crewe manager for the past four years, Artell spoke with compassion about the abuse scandal which resulted in one of his predecessors, Dario Gradi, being banned from football indefinitely by the FA. “That’s hopefully a way to help people move on,” he said. “Whether it does or not — I don’t want to be seen as uncaring about this — the club said ‘sorry’ more than once in the statement and I hope that the survivors can find comfort in that if they need to.”

Board members at Crewe have been dismissive in their response to questions about Bennell in the past and the tone of their statement offended The Offside Trust, set up by survivors of child sexual abuse. They said: “We are pleased to see the club finally say ‘sorry’ — shame it has been delivered in such cold, mealy-mouthed, legalistic fashion. The emphasis on their lack of culpability makes it sound begrudging.”

Jesus Christ.

They're clearly acting on legal advice that uttering the word 'sorry' would be bad for them.

I feel sick every time I read this story. 

Edited by Joe B

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Anyone calling into P&G today needs to ask live on air if RS were warned by the Crewe press officer about losing access to future press conferences should Artells apology be widely reported. If they cut you off, there's your answer, with both Morse and McGarry being RS contributors. Go for it Jacko, they'll have you on! 

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3 hours ago, Doha said:

JESUS CHRIST

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/crewes-bid-to-shut-down-sex-abuse-apology-from-manager-david-artell-d6l62n785

Crewe Alexandra yesterday appeared to take steps to suppress the reporting of an apology made by their manager David Artell to the victims of child sexual abuse at their club. A Crewe official told The Times that the club had intervened yesterday because their directors were “uncomfortable with the ‘sorry’ thing”.

A report published this week said Crewe could have done more to prevent sexual abuse carried out in the 1990s by their former coach Barry Bennell, who is serving a 30-year prison sentence for his crimes. In response, the club issued a carefully worded statement that did not apologise directly to survivors, instead saying sorry “if there were in fact any warning signs that ought to have led the club to do more”.

The statement, which came more than 24 hours after the report was published, was described as mealy-mouthed and begrudging by survivors.

Yesterday Artell, 40, issued an unqualified apology that was far less scripted while appearing at his regular weekly press conference. “I’m not sure of the reasons it didn’t happen earlier,” Artell said, when asked why Crewe took longer than other criticised clubs to make a formal response. “But I know it was important for the football club to say sorry after the report concluded and what it said in the findings.”

Artell’s press conference, conducted via Zoom because of lockdown restrictions, involved only a handful of local reporters. Soon after it finished those reporters were contacted by the club and told that should Artell’s comments “go national” — a reference to them being reported in the national media — that the club may cancel future Zoom press conferences.

That led to some reporters electing not to report Artell’s apology, and one news website taking it off their site completely, despite having initially published it.

When questioned by The Times, Crewe’s press officer, Rob Wilson, said: “The board [of directors] were uncomfortable with the thing about the ‘sorry’ thing and that was the way it was.”

When questioned if he had asked for the story to be suppressed, Wilson said: “I just asked the question [of] where it was going to go. I never asked anyone to pull any interviews.

“I asked them where it was going to go, so we could cover off where it was going to go. It was done on a local level and we were worried it was going to go national.

“It wasn’t a threat at all. Do you want me to be honest? I said to them I have to be careful then, when I speak on a local level, if it was going to a national level — because we’ve got to cover our manager.

“I was worried if you record a Zoom press conference it can go anywhere in the world.

“I don’t think it was a threat. I said we would have to rethink how we do press conferences on Zoom. That’s my quote to you. I have to rethink, going forward, about recording Zoom press conferences if it goes from a local level to a national level [and about] protecting our manager and directors.”

Crewe have reached financial settlements with a number of former players who were abused by Bennell but those settlements have never included direct personal apologies from the club to the survivor for the abuse they suffered, unlike the settlements reached by Manchester City, who also employed Bennell.

A former player and the Crewe manager for the past four years, Artell spoke with compassion about the abuse scandal which resulted in one of his predecessors, Dario Gradi, being banned from football indefinitely by the FA. “That’s hopefully a way to help people move on,” he said. “Whether it does or not — I don’t want to be seen as uncaring about this — the club said ‘sorry’ more than once in the statement and I hope that the survivors can find comfort in that if they need to.”

Board members at Crewe have been dismissive in their response to questions about Bennell in the past and the tone of their statement offended The Offside Trust, set up by survivors of child sexual abuse. They said: “We are pleased to see the club finally say ‘sorry’ — shame it has been delivered in such cold, mealy-mouthed, legalistic fashion. The emphasis on their lack of culpability makes it sound begrudging.”

although i've never been  Artell fan, he's just jumped in my estimation of him, the only one on the staff side, to recognise crwho had a problem, and never delt with it, and are still deniging any responsibility. Also are affraid to say "sorry", in case everyman and his dog will think badly of them...and instead release a "leagal" reply.

   Well done Artell, for having the balls to say that word sorry, and mean it.

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1 hour ago, Davebrad said:

although i've never been  Artell fan, he's just jumped in my estimation of him, the only one on the staff side, to recognise crwho had a problem, and never delt with it, and are still deniging any responsibility. Also are affraid to say "sorry", in case everyman and his dog will think badly of them...and instead release a "leagal" reply.

   Well done Artell, for having the balls to say that word sorry, and mean it.

The reason they don't say sorry is because if they do they are admitting guilt and the legal world and ambulance chasers will be all over them there legal fees must be running at a high figure, if they get sued it could mean the end of the club it's all about money.

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8 minutes ago, Jacko51 said:

That’s cos you’re not blond, Danny.

The Mail on Sunday pulls no punches today. Oliver Holt describes Crewe as “a sad, cynical excuse for a football club.”  Decent Crewe fans must find that heartbreaking. 

They say they are been picked on it happened 30 years ago, time to move on,Bennell is is in jail and Dario was just being nice.....(Make of that what you will )

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I think this is pretty telling from the 200% website, given the legal role of the person giving the statement...

 

Polly Handford, the FA’s director of legal and governance, added that:

I think where someone’s removed from football office for safeguarding reasons, that will be because we have we have seen that there’s been an assessment that that particular individual could potentially cause or pose a risk of harm to children.

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9 hours ago, Phil1965 said:

I’m facing up to some uncomfortable viewing tonight. Things went badly wrong all those years ago. The club needs to acknowledge this.

You’ve got to have huge respect for the chaps speaking out and in particular Paul Stewart.

Gradi and Benell are scum.

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