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1 minute ago, JohnJames said:

Jeans upset Carl

Carl is right tho.  Some big clubs have gone out of the league and never come back.  Can see where he is coming from.  

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Just now, Breadwinner said:

Dreadful game of football ,lookedto me like we were playing for a 0-0 and lost to a team who didnt deserve win .

Going down unfortunately there was no blood and thunder about the display ,half hearted to me ,Rodney Worrall Robinson all ominous .

There was nothing to get excited very poor that effort is all well and good but lack guts get the ball in the net and that will see us in the national league unfortunately .

Always love the Vale but fearing the worst now .

That display today just wasn't good enough at all 

Following Thursday, the last thing I expected was a display so lethargic, I expected blood and thunder at the very least. I fell asleep in all honessty and missed the goal.

This hurts and it's worse that we can't vent our feelings.

This display was as abject as any we have witnessed since the end of October

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1 minute ago, Breadwinner said:

Dreadful game of football ,lookedto me like we were playing for a 0-0 and lost to a team who didnt deserve win .

Going down unfortunately there was no blood and thunder about the display ,half hearted to me ,Rodney Worrall Robinson all ominous .

There was nothing to get excited very poor that effort is all well and good but lack guts get the ball in the net and that will see us in the national league unfortunately .

Always love the Vale but fearing the worst now .

That display today just wasn't good enough at all 

Well I can see far more than that. In particular, I thought the team worked really hard today. Two players picked up injries because they worked really hard. 

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Just now, darren1810 said:

Feels strange saying this but.... Cambridge and Bolton actually aren't very good are they or both had real off days. Not sure what that makes us . 

No one's very good at this level. Cambridge and Bolton just win their games. They are consistent, don't have many horrorshows, and will take chances when presented. They stick to their plan and know, sooner or later, something will fall. 

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5 minutes ago, pete vale said:

The Colchester and Barrow games are the ones that will save us or send us down. All the positivity from Thursdays meeting and we witness that. I will save the negativity but as the saying goes "You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time"

 

So sad, bitterly disappointing, cruel to have to witness this at home.

This time next Saturday though Pete I don't envisage typing the words 

What a great win 

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1 minute ago, Warren said:

Well I can see far more than that. In particular, I thought the team worked really hard today. Two players picked up injries because they worked really hard. 

Robinson didn’t work hard 

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We were doing reasonably ok until Swann went off.We then resorted to  stiff neck ball.Fluke of a goal but how much time and space did he have to mishit that shot?Looking dire and desperate now.3 points out of 21 would normally cost the manager his job.

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Just now, Joe B said:

No one's very good at this level. Cambridge and Bolton just win their games. They are consistent, don't have many horrorshows, and will take chances when presented. They stick to their plan and know, sooner or later, something will fall. 

Yes agreed but usually somebody stands out. I know we beat them at home but both recently Luton and Swindon were streets above anything I saw .

This season there's nobody outstanding. Or if there is I've missed it 

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As Phil Bowers said during the match, something happened in October. The team was playing very well under Askey , and then all of a sudden it’s not? It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to work that out. Player revolt is what it was . It’s all coming back to bite them now. I don’t buy the bad recruitment line. All water under the bridge now , but if we go down, and it looks likely , it’s down to a group of players who are lazy , greedy and self- important . Disgraceful. 
 

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Just now, Houston Valiant said:

As Phil Bowers said during the match, something happened in October. The team was playing very well under Askey , and then all of a sudden it’s not? It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to work that out. Player revolt is what it was . It’s all coming back to bite them now. I don’t buy the bad recruitment line. All water under the bridge now , but if we go down, and it looks likely , it’s down to a group of players who are lazy , greedy and self- important . Disgraceful. 
 

Don’t forget crap

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I've given Darrel Clarke the benefit of the doubt since he's been at the Vale because of the injury situation but he's had long enough now to asses the players and develop  a way of playing to suit the players he's got.

Today there was no method or pattern of play, the player's don't play as a team, they don't know what each other are going to do, there's a total lack of confidence on the pitch. Players are included then excluded then not in the matchday squad.

Darrel Clarke and Flitcroft need to take a look at their approach.

 

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1 minute ago, darren1810 said:

This time next Saturday though Pete I don't envisage typing the words 

What a great win 

Me neither Darren, following Thursdays meeting and me as usual 'buying-in' to everything, to witness that has totally deflated and upset me, which is a shame for me and every other Vale fan out there.

Today, I saw a relegated side, offering nothing. Clarke for me came from nowhere, he speaks well, that is not enough. Sick of it and it will break my heart if we lose league status.

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3 minutes ago, valiant_593 said:

Robinson didn’t work hard 

He was not the only one. It will take more than Mr Flitcrofts sports science to sort this sh*t out. I'd like to hear Askey's response to the fitness claims. to me when he came in, that was what I noticed about the Vale side. They were fitter and at em. We have some wasters at the club, even if fit won't look any different.

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We are where we if we survive it’s down to others losing and not us winning. What a sorry state to be in.

Who ever is to blame it’s too late. The players need to take a long hard look at themselves and buck up. They take a wage they should start to earn it 

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