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Here we go again, this week`s leaders on a good run. Injuries continue to mount, but little sign of any recoveries. Plenty of sweat and tears but few goals to enjoy. What can we expect? Most fit players have been viewed and options explored, time to take small chances in attack?  Maybe a tight game will go our way for a change? Lets make it a Festival.

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I'm starting to doubt our play off chances.

Go back to the 365. You cannot be a genuine Vale fan with stupid posts like this.

What are you going to do about it then? Sit on here just crying about it all day? No way to live your life pal. This is the difference between your 12k posts on here and my less than 100. I

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21 minutes ago, newchapel valiant said:

Can't see anything but a Vale win here. 2-0 Taylor and Dave 😉

We resorting to playing Flitcroft on Saturday?

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DC says the squad is built for 4-3-3 so lets play it. 3 at the back needs good wingbacks anyway and with monty and gibbos injuries its time to go back to 4-3-3 until we have the players to play other systems. Also considering how bad our strike force is at the moment it's a waste of 2 places on the team sheet.

I'd go with

Brown

Gibbo if fit/ Mills
Mussy (he looked bright and I get the rest with his age and inexperience but give him a go)
Smith
Crookes

Conlon
Joyce if fit/Burgess
Taylor

Hurst (looks good but missing end product so far)
Swan
Rodney

Robinson and whitehead were terrible-keep them away please. And I think we need to try and keep a settled side. Sooner we have Worrall back in and amoo/pope/monty/gibbo fit the better.

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Use this a basically a free punt. If we go there for a point and sit in all game again we will lose. Let’s just attack them, if we get beaten comfortably then so be it. 
 

Brown

Mills 😑 Legge Smith Crookes

Conlon Taylor Joyce 

Rodney Guthrie Hurst 

Awful side really but not sure what else what could do? Be nice to see the two loan lads given a chance but not sure if Clarke rates them (massive error by carol which was blatantly obvious in January). Hurst no assists as of yet but I don’t think we have anyone else who can play there. Joyce has been awful but again no other options. Guthrie yet to score but we’re playing hoofball so he has to start. Bin whitehead and especially Robinson back out of the squad. Mckirdy would have offered more. 
 

 

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Let's hope the bad karma of our last visit there where I'm sure we should have won and had at least one pen or two is changed to good karma .

I'm not sure who I would start with  as its plainly obvious whoevers chosen when we get a free kick theres lack of desire get on anything a seemingly lack of bottle and guts to get it in the oppositions net ,micky Adam's had a good saying or was it Grewy,that saying so true with these players so why not strike it on the floor to someone who can shoot a Burgess or taylor ,even corners just play it back to your midfielder and tell him hit it as hard as he can ,hoofball when Conlon and Hurst are smaller than me mum and she's small is nonsense football I'd play Swann up front with Cullen and then theres no point in long ball it doesn't work we had had about 6 shots in four games playing this nonsense way get it on the floor and push it through the field .

Yes it means we are changing the way we play but so what all them set pieces and Smith and Legge and all the other big units not getting on the end of them ,so I question myself there are the balls in lousy or are the players who supposed be making things happen once that ball comes in the box GUTLESS and not wanting score for Port Vale .

So its 11 players heres mine for reasons just stated .

        Brown 

Mills Legge Smith Fitzpatrick 

Taylor Joyce Burgess Hurst

     Swann Cullen 

No point in hoofing play football .

 

 

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BROWN

preferred                    injury depending

GIBBO                         SMITH

OLAGUNJU                 LEGGE

SMITH                         OLAGUNJU

MONTY                       CROOKES

 

TAYLOR

CONLON

JOYCE

 

HURST

GUTHRIE

SWAN

 

Rodney is not undroppable and we need to do something new. Swan has had no real chance apart from a game where nobody passed him the ball.

Very worrying that Worrall is still not near a return according to Clarke's interview.

No Pope, maybe Manny in a few weeks and maybe Amoo in a week.

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7 minutes ago, 1 said:

BROWN

preferred                    injury depending

GIBBO                         SMITH

OLAGUNJU                 LEGGE

SMITH                         OLAGUNJU

MONTY                       CROOKES

 

TAYLOR

CONLON

JOYCE

 

HURST

GUTHRIE

SWAN

 

Rodney is not undroppable and we need to do something new. Swan has had no real chance apart from a game where nobody passed him the ball.

Very worrying that Worrall is still not near a return according to Clarke's interview.

No Pope, maybe Manny in a few weeks and maybe Amoo in a week.

Worrying mate, a few weeks takes us basically to the end of March by which time we are into single figures of games left.

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5 hours ago, valiant_593 said:

Use this a basically a free punt. If we go there for a point and sit in all game again we will lose. Let’s just attack them, if we get beaten comfortably then so be it. 
 

Brown

Mills 😑 Legge Smith Crookes

Conlon Taylor Joyce 

Rodney Guthrie Hurst 

Awful side really but not sure what else what could do? Be nice to see the two loan lads given a chance but not sure if Clarke rates them (massive error by carol which was blatantly obvious in January). Hurst no assists as of yet but I don’t think we have anyone else who can play there. Joyce has been awful but again no other options. Guthrie yet to score but we’re playing hoofball so he has to start. Bin whitehead and especially Robinson back out of the squad. Mckirdy would have offered more. 
 

 

I have to agree with most of this and the only difference between the line up i suggested is the 2 loan signings for Legge and Guthrie. I think they will be more hungry than players that know they probably won't be here next season. 

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I think that every game is winnable in this poor league, but if we go for a 0-0 we wont get anything.

Guthrie and Swann to start for me, but please no Whitehead, Brisley or Mills.

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Be nice to get a win, but with our strikers, midfield and playing hoof ball, can only see a defeat by 1 goal.  Probably scored in injury time as well.

Swann must be wondering how Robinson gets picked before him at the moment. 

Please no Mills or Whitehead.  Its like playing against 13 players as they always seem to be kicking backwards or to the opposition.

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433 is the only way out. We have never looked like scoring in any other formation. We are now literally registering whole games without having a shot on target, how are we going to go from that to winning the necessary games?

flat back 4, joyce anchor, conlon and taylor free, rodney and hurst supporting guthrie as the central striker.

We should be able to play that even with the injuries, as it would be a worse but still feasible back 4.

Sitting conlon back defensively and booting the ball up to strikers that can't hold the ball up is desperate and will never work consistently.

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15 hours ago, PVFC764 said:

Be nice to get a win, but with our strikers, midfield and playing hoof ball, can only see a defeat by 1 goal.  Probably scored in injury time as well.

Swann must be wondering how Robinson gets picked before him at the moment. 

Please no Mills or Whitehead.  Its like playing against 13 players as they always seem to be kicking backwards or to the opposition.

tbf I'd actually prefer to give Swann a go as a supporting striker in a 3, but then i can't think where to put Hurst unless Rodney is dropped

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So if we are going play hoofball can you let me know before purchasing the game which undoubtedly I will probably do .

We haven't the players play hoofball so either bring in comfortable on the ball centre halfs from youth team who can run forwards with the ball and pass it on the ground to the midfield players or play a midfield player at the back and tell him he as to get us playing on the ground from the back ,because I cannot see the point on playing it  in the air when you have players who are smaller than me mum then we should progressively go up the field in my opinion and anyway in four games apart from out of play majority of the time the midfield gets missed out time after time then ends up having scrap off the forwards inability to hold the ball up because they can not play that way either so its bizarre that every game we thump it long when apart from Guthrie going through one on one last sat and the goalie saving and that was on the ground nothing are you reading this DC DP NOTHING is being obtained by playing the ball long and HIGH opposition players are loving it GET it on the floor and make them HATE. 

I'm Sure Jake Taylor Scott Burgess Tom Conlon and 3 foot five Hurst do not want receive the ball of Smith Crookes Smith Brown 3000 feet in the air so either find replacements or tell them pass the ball to feet as its absolute rubbish to watch ,I mean most of the time they take a touch and put it out of play ,your professional footballers what the <ovf censored> is that .

So pick footballers not Hoofers it doesn't work .

Proof no attempts on target in must win game the other day and One in home game versus a club who usually in past seasons we beat at home and generally finish above .

Get it down I expect see Cullen and Swann as your front two and Burgess back in 

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433 is the only way out. We have never looked like scoring in any other formation. We are now literally registering whole games without having a shot on target, how are we going to go from that to winning the necessary games?

No, no.

The players only know 4-3-3, so we should play something else.

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No, no.
The players only know 4-3-3, so we should play something else.

They’re professional footballers if they can’t play more than one system it really is time to give up
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