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56 minutes ago, Breadwinner said:

I'm surprised he wants build a team around Smith he is one I want paying up and gone yes he excelled alongside Brisley and Legge but in them 3 months and sat he was abject when it was time for show he could lead he did naff all apart from let Mansfield players run past him all game .

Get him gone the other 3 I do not mind them but if Brisleys gone then Smith should be shown the door too .

How many years has he being at the club ,how many defeats has he being involved in ,yes he is young but come on we need better than him in my opinion 

Are you crazy, nathan smith since clarke has come in shown what a great player he is at this level. Youve clearly got a agenda against him. Slate him at every given chance yes he was poor in that run we had but put sergio ramos in that defence and he would struggle. 
 

nathan smith is a very good league 2 centre half and you are deluded and no nothing about football if you think otherwise to say hes not good enough is beyond stupid 

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19 minutes ago, darren1810 said:

I see your point but isn't this the life of a football player ? 

For example look at Cullen, he's had loads of clubs. Not many will be stacking shelves at Asda in a couple of weeks. Yes they might drop down the pyramid but it's slightly different to losing your job on a factory and having to search for a job doing literally anything. 

Clarke himself could be on the rock and roll if it goes belly up. Harsh as I sound , this is football. 

Example Doddsy, Vale, Chorley, Hanley Town. He's still getting paid for kicking a ball around .

 

 

It was aimed more towards the extreme reactions to the retain list rather than a general "lets feel sorry for the ex Vale players". Football is a cut throat business as it is without people jumping for joy because someone has lost their job. That was my point, but that being said, its very exciting and I'm confident there is a detailed plan who they are looking to bring in over the summer. This is not Bruno v2.0. 

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Clarke’s done it before. He released 12 players when Bristol Rovers were relegated from the Football League in 2014, rebuilt the team and took them to back-to-back promotions.

 

🎵 One two three four
Darrell Clarke
He hates media questions
Darrell Clarke
Being puddleds the intention
Darrell Clarke
He's going bite your fćking nose off
ONE TWO THREE FOUR.. 🎵

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Wow.  Let the rebuild commence, if not already started in the background.  Not too surprised with the list tho - DC sounded mightily t'd off in the after match interview on saturday, like he wanted to tell certain players they were off and what he thought of them.  

Thought Brown might have been offered a 1 yr contract - probably reduced terms.  Pope - may have been a 1 yr contract again on reduced terms and a coaching role with the younger players.

Good luck to those released and please don't score against us if you play against us in the coming seasons.

 

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52 minutes ago, valiant_593 said:

I see Malbon isnt impressed with the ways in which Clarke has dealt with releasing pope. (On Twitter) says pope didn’t know on Saturday and should have been given a better send off. 

Why would he be told on Saturday? DC has said all along that his players would be told on Monday.

Ask Micky Adam's about Malbon and his passport?

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If Dutton is coming, does that mean that we lose the services of Crosby. I might be missing something but why the excitement of Clarke&Dutton. Yes they were successful at Bristol Rovers but that was over five years ago. Please let me know if I’m missing something, thanks

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10 minutes ago, For Us All said:

Why would he be told on Saturday? DC has said all along that his players would be told on Monday.

Ask Micky Adam's about Malbon and his passport?

Never said I agreed with what Malbon said. Just mentioning that he said it. 
 

I agree there was no reason for him to be told on Saturday. 

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Massively shocked about Brown.  If we can find a better league 2 keeper than him I would be hugely surprised.  The rest you can't argue with too much apart from maybe Brisley and Montano.  I would have give Tom another year but I suppose there's no sentiment.  Clarke has piled a huge amount of pressure on himself and Flitcroft to replace and replace them to a better standard.

 

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Brown is a top bloke and was excellent in keeping us up two seasons, but I think a narrative took hold about him being 'the best in League 2'/'we are lucky to have him' which is objectively no longer the case and was never grounded in evidence.

He is decent for this level, and declining with every season.

Clarke has started every game with him and, with 4 promotions under his belt (including one at this level) has assessed he probably isn't good enough to be a promotion-winning keeper anymore.

Think of Chris Neal in the year we went up; he was a fair bit more solid than Brown has been next year. Certainly less unforced errors (one where it went through his legs) and much more well-rounded when it came to catching crosses.

The risk with Brown is you extend him, he declines further as he hits 37, and then promotion is finished, as no one goes up with a dodgy keeper. This is the financially sensible decision; put £1500 a week into a clearly declining asset, or invest the same money in one who is in the ascendancy/at their peak?

I wish Brown the best as he has been a good keeper, but I do think is completely replacable.

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