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6 hours ago, werstayinup said:

No he didn't but go on i will play your game,you do know he was an Askey signing??

I actually thought Mills had one of his better games today

It's no game, seriously. My heart sank when I saw his name on the team sheet. And I know he was an Askey signing. A very poor one (among others just as bad). I thought he was awful first half, as was Crookes. Second half, Mills was one of our better players, delivering a decent cross and defending well. If fit, Gibbo should still start. Surely you agree? 

What I find hard to fathom is that most of this squad have played extremely well together before and I'd really bought into the football JA wanted to play, with some youth and wingers. Suddenly we bring in a few players and we can't defend long balls down the middle. I'd say Leon and Smith were as bad as Mills in Nov/Dec. It was such a weird drop off.

I know I'll get a shed load for it, but I would rather have stuck with Askey, but employed a DOF to help him recruit. He clearly wasn't great at it, but I thought he was excellent at improving the players he had.

As for my comments about Clarke earlier, I guess I was frustrated. I obviously want him to succeed, but I don't like his demenour. I can't warm to him. I work in marketing and I can recognise buzzword bingo a mile off, and him and Flitcroft are full of it. JA was a bit dull in the after match interviews, but I had faith because of it (if you know what I mean).

Everyone's got an opinion, I get it. The way Vale fans (and a few of the players) turned on Askey so quickly really hasn't sat well with me. I just thought we were a bit better than that.

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Hi all, Can I please make a couple of comments: 1. Please KEEP ON TOPIC. This is about a football match. I am now going to plough through and remove all posts not to do with the game (happy

Missing today, Gibbons, Worrall, Oyeleke, Amoo, Joyce and Pope. All of this would be in most fans first 11 when fit. None played today. We didn’t deserve to lose that and probably wouldn’t have done w

Nice to see you are starting early Should we play poorly or lose then no doubt we will hear a lot from you today again..... play well or win we will see you Tuesday. For goodness sake Askey

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6 minutes ago, Moz said:

I'd say Leon and Smith were as bad as Mills in Nov/Dec. It was such a weird drop off.

I very distinctly remember watching Legge getting consistently turned like a geriatric donkey against Crawley and thinking he's lost it, 19/20 was the last bit squeezed out of the toothpaste tube for him.

I know it's the same for every club, but I am increasingly wondering whether general fitness issues from players dossing about at home between March-September instead of a proper break/regimental pre season caught up with us in November and then once on the slippery slope the subterranean confidence meant there was no coming back. Clarke has a Herculean task trying to keep these bottlers heads above water and staying up. 

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We just need a frigging win, not just for the points but as something to anchor against. Bookend this run of losses and draws and use it as a springboard for the rest of the season for their confidence. I suspect that's what Clarke will be thinking. 

Crap league this, most of the time the victor is the one who has the least amount of players having an off day. Confidence game and at the moment this squad doesn't have any.

Hope to have Pope back in 3 weeks. We need that sort of personality on the pitch who will drag and carry the rest of them. 

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39 minutes ago, Iron Curtain said:

7 for Mills is good to see... I thought he had one of his better games for us today! 

Not convinced we should keep him mind!

He didnt do a thing wrong and put a ball in which a striker should have being on the end off second half .

We have lost to a wonder strike but I always thought deep in my heart a goal was coming for them at no time apart from Guthrie major chance and when we got a free kick outside the area early knocks of game and Conlon just chipped it in to the goalies arms ,right naffed me off that did hit it with some venom youth,  that we were going score at any other time as we no quality whatsoever. 

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55 minutes ago, Breadwinner said:

He didnt do a thing wrong and put a ball in which a striker should have being on the end off second half .

We have lost to a wonder strike but I always thought deep in my heart a goal was coming for them at no time apart from Guthrie major chance and when we got a free kick outside the area early knocks of game and Conlon just chipped it in to the goalies arms ,right naffed me off that did hit it with some venom youth,  that we were going score at any other time as we no quality whatsoever. 

Fair points mate. How did you think Smithy did?  Pretty solid for me.

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2 hours ago, Breadwinner said:

Ok back to the game ,we do not seem to have the desire get the ball in the back of the oppositions net .

When that chance comes along for Kurtis he as to take it or at least pass it so  Rodney has a tap in ,so frustrating especially the first 25 mins both forwards were contributing after that I beg to differ ,you gotta do more if you want score that's for sure ,so disheartening to see that goal fly in after the defence in general were pretty good especially Legge who was 8 out of 10 alongside Smith who was also a good 8 also .

In fact I'm pointing the fingers at the lack of desire in the forward players ,you will never score if you do not play with a belief you can .

No doubt about it Cambridge deserved win as around the 65th  min we began to get ragged in midfield and there extra fitness began to tell by the looks of it I found that quite annoying because for 20 mins second half at least we were passing it to one another ,I thought we were going get the lead ,but no one really wanted or busted a gut to get the ball in the Cambridge net at any point it was all a bit half hearted and lame ,yet they wanted get it in ours and if it wasnt for a couple of fine saves from Brown and blocks  in the six yard box from Smith Mills and Crookes the defeat may have being hell of a lot worse .

As for us I'm trying think did we make there goalie work ,Guthrie should have scored and that's it 89 mins of nothing and do not get me started on that free kick early game from Conlon ,choose someone in future who will whack the ball it might hit a opposition player and fly in .

It was pathetic. 

MY Mark's 

BROWN 7 

MILLS 7

Smith 8 

LEGGE 8 man of match ,overworked though but he did everything all game in my opinion to give us a clean sheet maybe play him up front as we need goals .

Crookes 7 

Taylor 5 faded badly as game went on and when you are passed the ball in the opposition penalty area make sure you do not lose it ,ok for a hr 

Conlon 6 better than the last 2 games but creatively creating naff all ,porthill pirlo I do not think so ,worked hard mind you that's a given well should be as a pro footballer though I'm sure it was him who was wrong side of man for there goal .

Burgess 6 created nothing but I cannot remember our right side letting us down in this game ,most of the opportunities were being created from the left as Taylor And Hurst were not winning the ball unfortunately. 

Montano 5 went off injured while on did ok nothing more .

Guthrie 4 best chance of game fluffed it and after that his head probably went down ,well let's just say he was not any good after he missed that big moment up until then he along  with Rodney started the game well but the game lasts for 90 not 20 .

Rodney 4 first 20 ok last until he was replaced ominous .

Not impressed at all with him ,we need everyone at it wheres the explosive pace gone wheres the desire get the ball in the net  

Subs Hurst 5 going forwards does some decent things defensively not so easily beaten .

The other 2 subs worked hard but that Robinson rash shot was just ridiculous .

Darrell Clark ,defensively 2 goals conceded in 3 games which is ok  ,going forwards about 5 on target in them 3 games,1 goal  it isn't good enough work on clever free kicks ,getting shots away and choose a two up front which does not include Rodney or Guthrie and not leave players on who's legs are gone in fact maybe just play Swann up front and have extra legs in midfield 

 

You are as mad as a box of frogs mate, As we all are. Which is why we love you. Would not argue with a word you say there.

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2 hours ago, Doha said:

We just need a frigging win, 

Crap league this, 

Hope to have Pope back in 3 weeks. We need that sort of personality on the pitch who will drag and carry the rest of them. 

Yep. It is a crap  league and we are near the bottom of it. Tells you something.

Pope can only rescue us so many times. But agree I prey for him back.

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5 hours ago, toyahw said:

Fair points mate. How did you think Smithy did?  Pretty solid for me.

He played very well again I'm not pointing the finger at the defensive players I'm pointing the finger at the likes of Rodney and Guthrie who are not giving us anymore than 20 mins work in a game ,the game lasts 90 every player has to up there commitment levels the defence have in fairness even Crookes is playing well as a defender however he ain't getting up tge other end and whipping a ball in a striker cannot fail to finish tge same goes with a lot of our players we lack oooommmphhhhh. 

We need to improve tenfold to remain a football league club .

The fixtures are coming quick and fast we need to find ways score goals and play people who want to score goals who live for them, Guthrie and Rodney (who I like but cannot say I've enjoyed his efforts last two home games in my opinion he is hiding and not imposing himself on games ).need to be dropped for now it's time bring in either Swann as a lone striker or Cullen and Robinson as your 2 up front  .

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Mills in fairness did well I thought and that ball second half was outstanding... Popey would be gambling on that and heading home.

The 3-5-2 suited him better and guess meant he was left less vulnerable defensively.

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8 hours ago, Caroline Oakes said:

 


I accept that you feel bullied, but do think that as you won’t walk away from this thread and the differing opinions on it, Admins need to close it. The other guys simply ‘argued’ your point and if you feel bullied, then my experienced advise to you is to step away if you can.

 

I think the only problem in closing a match thread is that they will end up closing every match thread as most end up going in this direction.

For what its worth bullying is a strong phrase to use on here,i for one hate bullies but i see different points of view not bullying,i will be honest and say nofinikea gets on my twonks at times but then again so do others,i dont agree with a lot of what they say but then some things i do,we all have differing opinions on here but in the current climate there are far more important things to worry about..... surely whether you preferred Aspin,preffered Askey or prefer DC its DC who is in charge now,the past is the past lets try to move on.... most of us on here barring the odd one are Vale fans

Much love to all 🙂 vtid

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I think injuries are a huge issue and it’s fair to mention them, if you took 6 key players out of Cambridge side they’d be struggling, same for most of the 22 other sides so it’s a massive issue. Even usually fit players like Worrall and Joyce are now struggling for fitness.

Pope is another 3 weeks or so but if we’ve lost Monty and it wasn’t just because he was tiring after Covid yesterday as well that’s yet another body gone at the time when the games are coming thick and fast.

It’s a disaster we can Ill afford.

Worrall and Joyce play yesterday we probably win that. It was there for the taking but whilst the defence is largely intact all our best midfield and attacking options are limited.

We’ve had some rotten luck, the Xmas busy period and this one now losing big players is going to cost us a large chance to get out of the mess we are in.

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23 minutes ago, robf said:

Hi all,

Can I please make a couple of comments:

1. Please KEEP ON TOPIC. This is about a football match. I am now going to plough through and remove all posts not to do with the game (happy Sunday morning Rob!). Members who are breaking rules in terms of personal abuse will find action taken.

2. "Admin should have..." - sorry, but as said time and time again, this is reactive moderation. It's done by volunteers in spare time. There is also an element of responsibility from you the members to report things. Speaking personally, I was doing family things with my kids on Saturday evening. I cannot be expected to be on here 24/7 monitoring people being idiotic. Neither can the rest of the team. Having said that - this will be dealt with retrospectively. I think the folks shouting "Admin should have..." need to learn a little patience TBH. Things will happen.

3. Having said all that - come on people! This is a forum to talk about Port Vale. Some of the petty stuff really needs to end. I think there's an element of people thinking they can get away with things as they are "stretching the rules" - well, if you're one of them please be aware that posts on here cost me money and bandwidth and I do reserve the right to just remove people from a private website without reason and without explaining so if you want to test things by trying to bend the rules - I will take action.

On that note can we please get back to the subject of discussing the game not attacking each other!

 

Yes I do agree . Thank you Rob . For all you do for onevalefan.  . We do know how hard you work  on our Behalf. Vale fans must all pull together now . And hope vale can start Backing Darrell. Take care and keep safe . Rob . 

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54 minutes ago, valefan16 said:

Worrall and Joyce play yesterday we probably win that.

Possibly but even with DW I think we've got a problem with someone putting the ball in the net. Rodney is the only central forward to score this year and as he's still developing, he's hit and miss. It's worrying that a youngster still learning and inconsistent  is our only reliable source of goals right now. In an ideal world, I don't think Pope at his age should be an automatic start but I'd love to have him alongside Devante right now.

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Possibly but even with DW I think we've got a problem with someone putting the ball in the net. Rodney is the only central forward to score this year and as he's still developing, he's hit and miss. It's worrying that a youngster still learning and inconsistent  is our only reliable source of goals right now. In an ideal world, I don't think Pope at his age should be an automatic start but I'd love to have him alongside Devante right now.

I agree. We don’t have a forward who attacks the box.
Any crosses coming in just go straight across the area.
Rodney only seems to score with shots outside the box and Guthrie doesn’t seem to want to gamble on anything coming across the area.
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What’s up with Amoo? I think we miss his spark (on his day). Him, Worrall and Oyeleke are the only creative people in the squad and that’s what we miss. A midfield of Taylor, Burgess, Conlon or Joyce just don’t create anything. Burgess and Taylor just run around without actually affecting the game. Every other team seems to have a midfielder who can dictate play and create attacks.

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And why are we suddenly crying for Pope as if he will be a saviour? He’s no better than what we have and that’s the issue. I’m sick of us swapping the strikers every week just to realise that they’re all as bad as each other (bar Rodney). It’s as if we go around in circles. We play crap without Pope so everyone cries out for Pope and then when he plays we are still rubbish and everyone says he’s past it. There’s no service or creativity and that’s what Pope needs. We need to move on in the summer and just pay money for a decent striker.

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